Can a human still defeat Leela ?

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Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by JJJ » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:23 pm

All in the title. Is it already too late to beat Leela as a human ? Seems the leela bot on lichess loose only against others bot...

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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by Leo » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:15 pm

Pablo and ARB might be able to.
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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by AdminX » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:01 pm

I think Magnus Carlsen could, as long as he could make it to the endgame. (LTC of course) 8-)
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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by JJJ » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:40 pm

Leo wrote:Pablo and ARB might be able to.
Funny one !

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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by whereagles » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:53 pm

I managed to scrap a few games on easy the other day. It beat me like 10-to-2 in the end though.

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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by Leto » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:39 pm

The version that destroyed GM Tang was old and I imagine even Carlsen would have a tough time beating that version in a match. The newest versions no human would have a chance.

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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by AdminX » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:51 pm

Leto wrote:The version that destroyed GM Tang was old and I imagine even Carlsen would have a tough time beating that version in a match. The newest versions no human would have a chance.
I think the strategy would be to do something that is counterintuitive for humans versus computers. I would recommend playing something tactical, like the King's Gambit with Leela while you still can. Get her into a tactical fight. We know she is weak in tactics and her endgame can improve a bit more, so take her to those places and beat her with experience that she still does not possess.
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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by Geonerd » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:27 am

JJJ wrote:All in the title. Is it already too late to beat Leela as a human ? Seems the leela bot on lichess loose only against others bot...
I'd love to see Chess24 promote and host a short match with Svidler!

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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by whereagles » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:14 pm

well, just tried ID205 and results were... not very encouraging :lol:

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Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Post by JJJ » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:38 pm

I think it's now too late ! But the interesting things is how Leela would win against super GM with his agressive double edge style.

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