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Dann Corbit
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There is nothing new under the sun.

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http://162.217.248.187/

Or, at least, this does not seem to have moved in 24 hours.
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Re: There is nothing new under the sun.

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New net with 256*20 is trained as announced. Just wait.
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The bigger the net the slower and the more overfitting. The more overfitting the less it generalizes on unseen positions. Slipper should also have tried a network with a single cell first. Prune the net and retrain. Remove redundant cells/connections. I assume this has already been done of course otherwise why would you play 14 million training games on an inefficient network.
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Guenther wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 11:36 am New net with 256*20 is trained as announced. Just wait.
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Re: There is nothing new under the sun.

Post by Gary Internet »

Dann Corbit wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 11:01 am http://162.217.248.187/

Or, at least, this does not seem to have moved in 24 hours.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Best place to look for development is here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

If you look here http://lczero.org/networks you'll see that what they're trialling at the moment is only training a new network every 24 hours. This means that instead of each network having ~30k self play games to learn from, it will have 200k self play games to learn from. As I type this post the count is 190,087. We will know within a few hours whether or not this approach is promising.
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Post by Henk »

No nothing new under the sun. By the way in the Netherlands Pyramid games/Ponzi fraude are forbidden.( Looks like network asking more and more resources each time)
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Eccl 1:9
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Post by Dann Corbit »

Guenther wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 11:36 am New net with 256*20 is trained as announced. Just wait.
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Cardoso wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 6:31 pmEccl 1:9
You saw right through me.
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Post by glennsamuel32 »

Progress is going to be harder to come by now...

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