Hi there,
I am reading that a person played many games with our FEOBOS book.
I believe it was a person from CCRL testing group.
At the moment I collect the draws undo move 20.
It would be great to have the games from others (draw undo move 20) for further optimizations.
I collected at the moment 22 of such games with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3 lines.
Each help is wonderful, means if you can send the PGN.
My contact form can be found unter "Impressum" on www.amateurschach.de
Thanks!
Have a nice day!
Best
Frank
FEOBOS: Need help ...
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I've used your book for many gauntlets and tournaments, but there is no easy way to single them out.
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Re: FEOBOS: Need help ...
Tirsa has used it a lot, most of his games are with this book. Tens of thousands by now.
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Re: FEOBOS: Need help ...
Hm,
if you added all games played with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3 in a database and sorted with length of moves you have the games I need very fast.
Need all from x - 19 moves, must have it ... really ... so I can try with the material I have a new version of FEOBOS.
Wow ... so many games!
Here book statistics I made (can be also read in Wasp news):
Best
Frank
if you added all games played with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3 in a database and sorted with length of moves you have the games I need very fast.
Need all from x - 19 moves, must have it ... really ... so I can try with the material I have a new version of FEOBOS.
Wow ... so many games!
Here book statistics I made (can be also read in Wasp news):
Many thanks for the interesting replays!Notes to FEOBOS v20.1 Contempt 3:
1.
At the moment I have 6.772 games played with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3.
22 of 6.772 games replayed (ended with draw undo 20 moves = 0,32%)
Stronger but not by engines optimized opening books have around 0,7%
Statistic is perfect!
2.
498 of 500 ECO codes played with random and FEOBOS book settings under Shredder 12 GUI.
Missed at the moment: B58, C82
Sure that the two missed ECO codes will be sooner or later on the board!
Statistic is perfect!
3.
Draw stats are perfect!
ECO allocation is perfect!
Games : 6772 (finished)
White Wins : 2201 (32.5%)
Black Wins : 1481 (21.9%)
Draws : 3090 (45.6%)
Unfinished : 0
White Perf. : 55.3%
Black Perf. : 44.7%
ECO A = 1598 Games (23.6%)
ECO B = 1770 Games (26.1%)
ECO C = 1128 Games (16.7%)
ECO D = 1139 Games (16.8%)
ECO E = 1137 Games (16.8%)
FEOBOS v20.1 Contempt 3 works great.
I am very happy about it!
Best
Frank
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Re: FEOBOS: Need help ...
Hi there,
fast draw games are bad for rating games.
Weaker engines have an advantage.
So, very important to have the games.
0.3% draws undo move 20 is really good but 0.1% is better.
So I have an order for a new FEOBOS version.
Much other things I can improved.
Wrote a long message in CSS Forum in German language about it.
Best
Frank
fast draw games are bad for rating games.
Weaker engines have an advantage.
So, very important to have the games.
0.3% draws undo move 20 is really good but 0.1% is better.
So I have an order for a new FEOBOS version.
Much other things I can improved.
Wrote a long message in CSS Forum in German language about it.
Best
Frank
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Re: FEOBOS: Need help ...
I use FEOBOS.
No complaints.
Thx!
No complaints.
Thx!
Eugene Kotlov
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Re: FEOBOS: Need help ...
Hi, Frank!
It was I. So you found my posts in the old FEOBOS thread at last?Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:29 amI am reading that a person played many games with our FEOBOS book.
I believe it was a person from CCRL testing group.
There was also a link there to a collection of short draws played with v10 Contempt 4, which you might still find useful:
FEOBOSv10-c4-short-games.zip
You mean "draws under 20 moves". Yes, such data should no doubt be useful to weed out excessively drawish lines.Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:29 amAt the moment I collect the draws undo move 20.
It would be great to have the games from others (draw undo move 20) for further optimizations.
Here are 95 short draws played with v20.1 Contempt 3, taken from 34,000+ games (most, but not all, CCRL tests):Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:29 amI collected at the moment 22 of such games with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3 lines.
FEOBOSv201-c3-short_draws.zip
Yes, submitted another copy via that form, just in case.Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:29 amMy contact form can be found unter "Impressum" on www.amateurschach.de
Here are the stats from the 27,980 games using the book played during tests for CCRL:Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:23 pm [...]
Here book statistics I made (can be also read in Wasp news):
Notes to FEOBOS v20.1 Contempt 3:
[...]
2.
498 of 500 ECO codes played with random and FEOBOS book settings under Shredder 12 GUI.
Missed at the moment: B58, C82
Sure that the two missed ECO codes will be sooner or later on the board!
Statistic is perfect!
[...]
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White White White
ECO Games Score Win : Draw : Loss
A00 115 47.0% : 30+ : 48= : 37-
A01 120 52.5% : 44+ : 38= : 38-
A02 12 62.5% : 5+ : 5= : 2-
A03 81 50.0% : 21+ : 39= : 21-
A04 93 51.1% : 26+ : 43= : 24-
A05 136 53.3% : 41+ : 63= : 32-
A06 108 51.4% : 40+ : 31= : 37-
A07 154 53.9% : 51+ : 64= : 39-
A08 26 51.9% : 10+ : 7= : 9-
A09 96 50.5% : 33+ : 31= : 32-
A10 79 53.2% : 25+ : 34= : 20-
A11 170 55.3% : 59+ : 70= : 41-
A12 24 37.5% : 5+ : 8= : 11-
A13 160 57.2% : 59+ : 65= : 36-
A14 11 54.5% : 3+ : 6= : 2-
A15 39 43.6% : 9+ : 16= : 14-
A16 41 64.6% : 19+ : 15= : 7-
A17 59 59.3% : 25+ : 20= : 14-
A18 33 56.1% : 10+ : 17= : 6-
A19 26 63.5% : 14+ : 5= : 7-
A20 112 55.4% : 36+ : 52= : 24-
A21 142 51.1% : 49+ : 47= : 46-
A22 62 50.8% : 17+ : 29= : 16-
A23 18 52.8% : 7+ : 5= : 6-
A24 47 53.2% : 17+ : 16= : 14-
A25 195 56.7% : 77+ : 67= : 51-
A26 45 58.9% : 18+ : 17= : 10-
A27 168 53.6% : 56+ : 68= : 44-
A28 136 53.3% : 45+ : 55= : 36-
A29 99 49.0% : 31+ : 35= : 33-
A30 89 54.5% : 27+ : 43= : 19-
A31 44 60.2% : 16+ : 21= : 7-
A32 95 55.3% : 32+ : 41= : 22-
A33 50 59.0% : 20+ : 19= : 11-
A34 237 53.8% : 82+ : 91= : 64-
A35 27 50.0% : 8+ : 11= : 8-
A36 179 53.1% : 60+ : 70= : 49-
A37 135 53.3% : 47+ : 50= : 38-
A38 63 61.1% : 25+ : 27= : 11-
A39 35 58.6% : 14+ : 13= : 8-
A40 239 54.4% : 76+ : 108= : 55-
A41 112 61.2% : 51+ : 35= : 26-
A42 58 55.2% : 24+ : 16= : 18-
A43 120 57.5% : 42+ : 54= : 24-
A44 29 53.4% : 11+ : 9= : 9-
A45 177 55.1% : 63+ : 69= : 45-
A46 229 55.0% : 80+ : 92= : 57-
A47 32 57.8% : 11+ : 15= : 6-
A48 185 50.0% : 55+ : 75= : 55-
A49 45 56.7% : 18+ : 15= : 12-
A50 49 57.1% : 15+ : 26= : 8-
A51 26 61.5% : 11+ : 10= : 5-
A52 39 57.7% : 16+ : 13= : 10-
A53 62 61.3% : 25+ : 26= : 11-
A54 47 56.4% : 20+ : 13= : 14-
A55 32 70.3% : 18+ : 9= : 5-
A56 23 58.7% : 8+ : 11= : 4-
A57 121 55.0% : 47+ : 39= : 35-
A58 17 47.1% : 5+ : 6= : 6-
A59 8 62.5% : 3+ : 4= : 1-
A60 37 45.9% : 11+ : 12= : 14-
A61 21 59.5% : 8+ : 9= : 4-
A62 42 58.3% : 17+ : 15= : 10-
A63 12 54.2% : 5+ : 3= : 4-
A64 5 40.0% : 1+ : 2= : 2-
A65 71 55.6% : 25+ : 29= : 17-
A66 2 100.0% : 2+ : 0= : 0-
A67 14 78.6% : 10+ : 2= : 2-
A68 5 70.0% : 3+ : 1= : 1-
A69 6 58.3% : 2+ : 3= : 1-
A70 28 55.4% : 10+ : 11= : 7-
A71 12 62.5% : 7+ : 1= : 4-
A72 2 100.0% : 2+ : 0= : 0-
A73 12 83.3% : 9+ : 2= : 1-
A74 2 75.0% : 1+ : 1= : 0-
A75 12 41.7% : 2+ : 6= : 4-
A76 2 100.0% : 2+ : 0= : 0-
A77 7 57.1% : 3+ : 2= : 2-
A78 3 83.3% : 2+ : 1= : 0-
A79 4 62.5% : 2+ : 1= : 1-
A80 136 49.6% : 49+ : 37= : 50-
A81 105 55.7% : 34+ : 49= : 22-
A82 14 46.4% : 4+ : 5= : 5-
A83 21 50.0% : 7+ : 7= : 7-
A84 65 60.0% : 24+ : 30= : 11-
A85 52 52.9% : 16+ : 23= : 13-
A86 32 62.5% : 14+ : 12= : 6-
A87 101 66.3% : 47+ : 40= : 14-
A88 38 50.0% : 9+ : 20= : 9-
A89 16 50.0% : 4+ : 8= : 4-
A90 39 59.0% : 14+ : 18= : 7-
A91 12 58.3% : 5+ : 4= : 3-
A92 26 69.2% : 12+ : 12= : 2-
A93 18 66.7% : 10+ : 4= : 4-
A94 20 62.5% : 9+ : 7= : 4-
A95 14 60.7% : 5+ : 7= : 2-
A96 48 58.3% : 19+ : 18= : 11-
A97 28 66.1% : 14+ : 9= : 5-
A98 44 60.2% : 19+ : 15= : 10-
A99 34 69.1% : 18+ : 11= : 5-
B00 63 54.0% : 24+ : 20= : 19-
B01 146 60.6% : 62+ : 53= : 31-
B02 88 56.3% : 29+ : 41= : 18-
B03 74 57.4% : 25+ : 35= : 14-
B04 95 56.3% : 33+ : 41= : 21-
B05 40 61.3% : 17+ : 15= : 8-
B06 151 53.6% : 50+ : 62= : 39-
B07 145 53.8% : 50+ : 56= : 39-
B08 117 55.1% : 39+ : 51= : 27-
B09 41 59.8% : 17+ : 15= : 9-
B10 105 56.2% : 38+ : 42= : 25-
B11 82 54.3% : 30+ : 29= : 23-
B12 429 58.0% : 165+ : 168= : 96-
B13 70 52.9% : 23+ : 28= : 19-
B14 71 54.2% : 24+ : 29= : 18-
B15 72 54.2% : 26+ : 26= : 20-
B16 10 55.0% : 3+ : 5= : 2-
B17 56 51.8% : 15+ : 28= : 13-
B18 59 61.9% : 25+ : 23= : 11-
B19 28 60.7% : 11+ : 12= : 5-
B20 81 52.5% : 26+ : 33= : 22-
B21 44 53.4% : 15+ : 17= : 12-
B22 229 53.3% : 72+ : 100= : 57-
B23 165 53.0% : 56+ : 63= : 46-
B24 44 47.7% : 14+ : 14= : 16-
B25 77 50.0% : 24+ : 29= : 24-
B26 48 45.8% : 14+ : 16= : 18-
B27 34 58.8% : 14+ : 12= : 8-
B28 31 51.6% : 9+ : 14= : 8-
B29 61 55.7% : 24+ : 20= : 17-
B30 253 56.1% : 95+ : 94= : 64-
B31 140 54.3% : 49+ : 54= : 37-
B32 106 49.5% : 23+ : 59= : 24-
B33 86 55.8% : 30+ : 36= : 20-
B34 23 50.0% : 6+ : 11= : 6-
B35 30 78.3% : 18+ : 11= : 1-
B36 45 56.7% : 16+ : 19= : 10-
B37 12 62.5% : 4+ : 7= : 1-
B38 32 65.6% : 16+ : 10= : 6-
B39 22 59.1% : 8+ : 10= : 4-
B40 234 51.9% : 75+ : 93= : 66-
B41 48 64.6% : 20+ : 22= : 6-
B42 226 56.9% : 83+ : 91= : 52-
B43 102 60.3% : 41+ : 41= : 20-
B44 48 47.9% : 12+ : 22= : 14-
B45 59 49.2% : 13+ : 32= : 14-
B46 36 59.7% : 12+ : 19= : 5-
B47 108 56.0% : 34+ : 53= : 21-
B48 156 59.9% : 61+ : 65= : 30-
B49 23 56.5% : 7+ : 12= : 4-
B50 133 55.6% : 46+ : 56= : 31-
B51 167 52.7% : 55+ : 66= : 46-
B52 115 55.7% : 43+ : 42= : 30-
B53 151 53.0% : 42+ : 76= : 33-
B54 84 53.6% : 29+ : 32= : 23-
B55 16 59.4% : 5+ : 9= : 2-
B56 46 60.9% : 18+ : 20= : 8-
B57 52 43.3% : 11+ : 23= : 18-
B58 10 55.0% : 4+ : 3= : 3-
B59 12 41.7% : 2+ : 6= : 4-
B60 60 50.8% : 16+ : 29= : 15-
B61 20 62.5% : 8+ : 9= : 3-
B62 16 43.8% : 3+ : 8= : 5-
B63 12 45.8% : 3+ : 5= : 4-
B64 7 35.7% : 0+ : 5= : 2-
B65 5 50.0% : 2+ : 1= : 2-
B66 25 64.0% : 11+ : 10= : 4-
B67 38 52.6% : 14+ : 12= : 12-
B68 9 72.2% : 5+ : 3= : 1-
B69 1 100.0% : 1+ : 0= : 0-
B70 54 55.6% : 17+ : 26= : 11-
B71 49 54.1% : 16+ : 21= : 12-
B72 31 45.2% : 6+ : 16= : 9-
B73 45 60.0% : 15+ : 24= : 6-
B74 20 50.0% : 5+ : 10= : 5-
B75 21 52.4% : 7+ : 8= : 6-
B76 19 81.6% : 14+ : 3= : 2-
B77 9 88.9% : 7+ : 2= : 0-
B78 7 64.3% : 3+ : 3= : 1-
B79 4 25.0% : 0+ : 2= : 2-
B80 56 67.0% : 29+ : 17= : 10-
B81 90 61.7% : 37+ : 37= : 16-
B82 99 52.5% : 35+ : 34= : 30-
B83 59 53.4% : 17+ : 29= : 13-
B84 87 50.6% : 28+ : 32= : 27-
B85 20 52.5% : 7+ : 7= : 6-
B86 41 42.7% : 10+ : 15= : 16-
B87 29 50.0% : 9+ : 11= : 9-
B88 107 54.7% : 35+ : 47= : 25-
B89 74 47.3% : 22+ : 26= : 26-
B90 250 53.4% : 81+ : 105= : 64-
B91 50 57.0% : 18+ : 21= : 11-
B92 101 49.0% : 27+ : 45= : 29-
B93 35 62.9% : 18+ : 8= : 9-
B94 39 52.6% : 15+ : 11= : 13-
B95 20 47.5% : 6+ : 7= : 7-
B96 24 62.5% : 10+ : 10= : 4-
B97 28 53.6% : 9+ : 12= : 7-
B98 2 50.0% : 0+ : 2= : 0-
B99 4 25.0% : 1+ : 0= : 3-
C00 113 51.8% : 37+ : 43= : 33-
C01 67 56.7% : 20+ : 36= : 11-
C02 64 63.3% : 31+ : 19= : 14-
C03 106 58.0% : 41+ : 41= : 24-
C04 22 56.8% : 7+ : 11= : 4-
C05 80 57.5% : 33+ : 26= : 21-
C06 59 75.4% : 36+ : 17= : 6-
C07 60 49.2% : 16+ : 27= : 17-
C08 45 53.3% : 14+ : 20= : 11-
C09 19 52.6% : 2+ : 16= : 1-
C10 57 56.1% : 21+ : 22= : 14-
C11 40 52.5% : 16+ : 10= : 14-
C12 12 54.2% : 4+ : 5= : 3-
C13 83 56.6% : 27+ : 40= : 16-
C14 76 65.1% : 36+ : 27= : 13-
C15 42 50.0% : 10+ : 22= : 10-
C16 75 58.0% : 28+ : 31= : 16-
C17 24 62.5% : 11+ : 8= : 5-
C18 127 63.8% : 57+ : 48= : 22-
C19 68 63.2% : 31+ : 24= : 13-
C20 12 37.5% : 2+ : 5= : 5-
C21 44 56.8% : 14+ : 22= : 8-
C22 64 43.8% : 12+ : 32= : 20-
C23 10 55.0% : 3+ : 5= : 2-
C24 40 50.0% : 12+ : 16= : 12-
C25 16 34.4% : 2+ : 7= : 7-
C26 39 51.3% : 10+ : 20= : 9-
C27 13 42.3% : 3+ : 5= : 5-
C28 24 58.3% : 9+ : 10= : 5-
C29 60 58.3% : 19+ : 32= : 9-
C30 172 57.6% : 63+ : 72= : 37-
C31 68 56.6% : 25+ : 27= : 16-
C32 21 54.8% : 9+ : 5= : 7-
C33 92 53.8% : 31+ : 37= : 24-
C34 49 52.0% : 15+ : 21= : 13-
C35 18 38.9% : 4+ : 6= : 8-
C36 29 65.5% : 12+ : 14= : 3-
C37 7 50.0% : 3+ : 1= : 3-
C38 4 62.5% : 2+ : 1= : 1-
C39 12 41.7% : 3+ : 4= : 5-
C40 16 46.9% : 6+ : 3= : 7-
C41 56 56.3% : 20+ : 23= : 13-
C42 27 74.1% : 16+ : 8= : 3-
C43 44 58.0% : 14+ : 23= : 7-
C44 71 54.9% : 25+ : 28= : 18-
C45 95 56.8% : 35+ : 38= : 22-
C46 74 56.8% : 25+ : 34= : 15-
C47 40 48.8% : 9+ : 21= : 10-
C48 66 49.2% : 15+ : 35= : 16-
C49 64 60.2% : 24+ : 29= : 11-
C50 78 48.7% : 17+ : 42= : 19-
C51 55 56.4% : 19+ : 24= : 12-
C52 28 37.5% : 5+ : 11= : 12-
C53 68 52.2% : 18+ : 35= : 15-
C54 173 50.0% : 49+ : 75= : 49-
C55 107 52.3% : 35+ : 42= : 30-
C56 17 55.9% : 5+ : 9= : 3-
C57 38 46.1% : 9+ : 17= : 12-
C58 13 46.2% : 4+ : 4= : 5-
C59 12 45.8% : 3+ : 5= : 4-
C60 96 52.1% : 28+ : 44= : 24-
C61 34 54.4% : 10+ : 17= : 7-
C62 17 61.8% : 6+ : 9= : 2-
C63 22 59.1% : 8+ : 10= : 4-
C64 27 61.1% : 10+ : 13= : 4-
C65 159 48.4% : 43+ : 68= : 48-
C66 36 59.7% : 12+ : 19= : 5-
C67 25 48.0% : 7+ : 10= : 8-
C68 87 56.9% : 32+ : 35= : 20-
C69 34 48.5% : 6+ : 21= : 7-
C70 60 48.3% : 15+ : 28= : 17-
C71 10 60.0% : 4+ : 4= : 2-
C72 51 59.8% : 17+ : 27= : 7-
C73 42 48.8% : 11+ : 19= : 12-
C74 25 64.0% : 12+ : 8= : 5-
C75 34 51.5% : 12+ : 11= : 11-
C76 31 53.2% : 12+ : 9= : 10-
C77 81 55.6% : 29+ : 32= : 20-
C78 53 50.0% : 14+ : 25= : 14-
C79 71 59.9% : 32+ : 21= : 18-
C80 8 50.0% : 1+ : 6= : 1-
C81 5 50.0% : 1+ : 3= : 1-
C82 20 67.5% : 9+ : 9= : 2-
C83 8 75.0% : 4+ : 4= : 0-
C84 104 51.9% : 28+ : 52= : 24-
C85 117 48.3% : 33+ : 47= : 37-
C86 20 55.0% : 3+ : 16= : 1-
C87 10 70.0% : 5+ : 4= : 1-
C88 72 47.2% : 15+ : 38= : 19-
C89 4 62.5% : 2+ : 1= : 1-
C90 42 61.9% : 17+ : 18= : 7-
C91 23 60.9% : 9+ : 10= : 4-
C92 17 67.6% : 9+ : 5= : 3-
C93 1 50.0% : 0+ : 1= : 0-
C96 3 50.0% : 0+ : 3= : 0-
C97 5 80.0% : 3+ : 2= : 0-
C98 2 50.0% : 0+ : 2= : 0-
C99 2 25.0% : 0+ : 1= : 1-
D00 233 54.5% : 78+ : 98= : 57-
D01 35 48.6% : 11+ : 12= : 12-
D02 148 52.7% : 53+ : 50= : 45-
D03 72 50.0% : 21+ : 30= : 21-
D04 102 52.9% : 28+ : 52= : 22-
D05 40 58.8% : 15+ : 17= : 8-
D06 32 54.7% : 10+ : 15= : 7-
D07 23 67.4% : 14+ : 3= : 6-
D08 66 50.0% : 20+ : 26= : 20-
D09 37 55.4% : 11+ : 19= : 7-
D10 99 58.1% : 39+ : 37= : 23-
D11 236 51.1% : 72+ : 97= : 67-
D12 13 65.4% : 5+ : 7= : 1-
D13 27 44.4% : 5+ : 14= : 8-
D14 10 70.0% : 5+ : 4= : 1-
D15 261 54.6% : 90+ : 105= : 66-
D16 25 62.0% : 11+ : 9= : 5-
D17 48 58.3% : 16+ : 24= : 8-
D18 36 47.2% : 9+ : 16= : 11-
D19 13 42.3% : 2+ : 7= : 4-
D20 56 55.4% : 16+ : 30= : 10-
D21 48 45.8% : 10+ : 24= : 14-
D22 47 51.1% : 11+ : 26= : 10-
D23 47 56.4% : 17+ : 19= : 11-
D24 19 36.8% : 3+ : 8= : 8-
D25 24 54.2% : 10+ : 6= : 8-
D26 51 54.9% : 17+ : 22= : 12-
D27 58 63.8% : 21+ : 32= : 5-
D28 22 61.4% : 10+ : 7= : 5-
D29 16 65.6% : 6+ : 9= : 1-
D30 58 44.0% : 11+ : 29= : 18-
D31 162 53.4% : 50+ : 73= : 39-
D32 41 54.9% : 10+ : 25= : 6-
D33 51 54.9% : 17+ : 22= : 12-
D34 28 57.1% : 8+ : 16= : 4-
D35 220 52.7% : 70+ : 92= : 58-
D36 39 48.7% : 9+ : 20= : 10-
D37 121 57.0% : 41+ : 56= : 24-
D38 132 54.9% : 45+ : 55= : 32-
D39 12 50.0% : 3+ : 6= : 3-
D40 39 42.3% : 7+ : 19= : 13-
D41 35 50.0% : 6+ : 23= : 6-
D42 32 54.7% : 9+ : 17= : 6-
D43 102 57.4% : 37+ : 43= : 22-
D44 21 52.4% : 6+ : 10= : 5-
D45 97 52.1% : 26+ : 49= : 22-
D46 31 51.6% : 9+ : 14= : 8-
D47 39 64.1% : 15+ : 20= : 4-
D48 14 53.6% : 4+ : 7= : 3-
D49 2 25.0% : 0+ : 1= : 1-
D50 42 56.0% : 9+ : 29= : 4-
D51 24 56.3% : 7+ : 13= : 4-
D52 17 52.9% : 6+ : 6= : 5-
D53 66 53.8% : 18+ : 35= : 13-
D54 13 50.0% : 4+ : 5= : 4-
D55 109 51.8% : 30+ : 53= : 26-
D56 32 64.1% : 13+ : 15= : 4-
D58 35 52.9% : 10+ : 17= : 8-
D59 13 50.0% : 3+ : 7= : 3-
D60 40 56.3% : 14+ : 17= : 9-
D61 55 62.7% : 21+ : 27= : 7-
D62 19 57.9% : 6+ : 10= : 3-
D63 38 61.8% : 15+ : 17= : 6-
D64 8 62.5% : 3+ : 4= : 1-
D65 7 35.7% : 1+ : 3= : 3-
D66 16 65.6% : 6+ : 9= : 1-
D67 1 100.0% : 1+ : 0= : 0-
D68 6 33.3% : 1+ : 2= : 3-
D70 9 72.2% : 5+ : 3= : 1-
D71 50 53.0% : 16+ : 21= : 13-
D72 8 50.0% : 3+ : 2= : 3-
D73 57 51.8% : 10+ : 39= : 8-
D74 18 61.1% : 6+ : 10= : 2-
D75 38 61.8% : 15+ : 17= : 6-
D76 38 57.9% : 12+ : 20= : 6-
D77 17 55.9% : 6+ : 7= : 4-
D78 47 51.1% : 13+ : 22= : 12-
D79 45 60.0% : 17+ : 20= : 8-
D80 31 50.0% : 9+ : 13= : 9-
D81 20 55.0% : 5+ : 12= : 3-
D82 31 50.0% : 7+ : 17= : 7-
D83 32 56.3% : 9+ : 18= : 5-
D84 5 90.0% : 4+ : 1= : 0-
D85 258 56.4% : 84+ : 123= : 51-
D86 47 68.1% : 22+ : 20= : 5-
D87 15 53.3% : 5+ : 6= : 4-
D88 11 45.5% : 2+ : 6= : 3-
D90 70 49.3% : 17+ : 35= : 18-
D91 57 49.1% : 15+ : 26= : 16-
D92 25 72.0% : 13+ : 10= : 2-
D93 63 56.3% : 22+ : 27= : 14-
D94 94 55.3% : 34+ : 36= : 24-
D95 21 52.4% : 6+ : 10= : 5-
D96 26 51.9% : 7+ : 13= : 6-
D97 64 52.3% : 18+ : 31= : 15-
D98 17 44.1% : 2+ : 11= : 4-
D99 4 75.0% : 2+ : 2= : 0-
E00 37 52.7% : 10+ : 19= : 8-
E01 68 50.0% : 24+ : 20= : 24-
E02 17 61.8% : 7+ : 7= : 3-
E03 48 52.1% : 10+ : 30= : 8-
E04 63 63.5% : 23+ : 34= : 6-
E05 38 53.9% : 13+ : 15= : 10-
E06 44 53.4% : 9+ : 29= : 6-
E07 39 48.7% : 10+ : 18= : 11-
E08 37 59.5% : 15+ : 14= : 8-
E09 18 63.9% : 7+ : 9= : 2-
E10 73 58.9% : 30+ : 26= : 17-
E11 231 52.2% : 69+ : 103= : 59-
E12 194 57.0% : 72+ : 77= : 45-
E13 28 62.5% : 14+ : 7= : 7-
E14 140 56.8% : 52+ : 55= : 33-
E15 178 57.0% : 59+ : 85= : 34-
E16 106 51.9% : 32+ : 46= : 28-
E17 96 57.3% : 32+ : 46= : 18-
E18 95 57.9% : 34+ : 42= : 19-
E19 32 56.3% : 7+ : 22= : 3-
E20 99 57.6% : 36+ : 42= : 21-
E21 72 63.2% : 30+ : 31= : 11-
E22 77 55.2% : 26+ : 33= : 18-
E23 14 57.1% : 6+ : 4= : 4-
E24 33 50.0% : 8+ : 17= : 8-
E25 22 52.3% : 7+ : 9= : 6-
E26 32 54.7% : 12+ : 11= : 9-
E27 22 59.1% : 11+ : 4= : 7-
E28 35 57.1% : 11+ : 18= : 6-
E29 14 60.7% : 6+ : 5= : 3-
E30 35 51.4% : 11+ : 14= : 10-
E31 39 44.9% : 11+ : 13= : 15-
E32 139 57.9% : 49+ : 63= : 27-
E33 72 56.9% : 26+ : 30= : 16-
E34 26 63.5% : 9+ : 15= : 2-
E35 21 50.0% : 4+ : 13= : 4-
E36 16 59.4% : 5+ : 9= : 2-
E37 17 64.7% : 6+ : 10= : 1-
E38 36 59.7% : 13+ : 17= : 6-
E39 34 48.5% : 9+ : 15= : 10-
E40 30 51.7% : 9+ : 13= : 8-
E41 38 59.2% : 17+ : 11= : 10-
E42 66 51.5% : 17+ : 34= : 15-
E43 41 58.5% : 14+ : 20= : 7-
E44 53 62.3% : 21+ : 24= : 8-
E45 35 52.9% : 13+ : 11= : 11-
E46 83 47.6% : 20+ : 39= : 24-
E47 49 60.2% : 21+ : 17= : 11-
E48 66 53.8% : 22+ : 27= : 17-
E49 29 63.8% : 11+ : 15= : 3-
E50 10 60.0% : 4+ : 4= : 2-
E51 49 49.0% : 11+ : 26= : 12-
E52 38 68.4% : 18+ : 16= : 4-
E53 28 60.7% : 12+ : 10= : 6-
E54 57 64.0% : 24+ : 25= : 8-
E55 59 62.7% : 21+ : 32= : 6-
E56 22 47.7% : 7+ : 7= : 8-
E57 8 50.0% : 3+ : 2= : 3-
E58 31 51.6% : 10+ : 12= : 9-
E59 2 50.0% : 1+ : 0= : 1-
E60 147 59.5% : 65+ : 45= : 37-
E61 119 53.4% : 38+ : 51= : 30-
E62 127 60.6% : 56+ : 42= : 29-
E63 66 61.4% : 29+ : 23= : 14-
E64 14 53.6% : 6+ : 3= : 5-
E65 29 50.0% : 6+ : 17= : 6-
E66 10 40.0% : 2+ : 4= : 4-
E67 39 69.2% : 19+ : 16= : 4-
E68 40 51.3% : 11+ : 19= : 10-
E69 23 71.7% : 13+ : 7= : 3-
E70 100 59.5% : 42+ : 35= : 23-
E71 40 63.8% : 18+ : 15= : 7-
E72 66 53.0% : 19+ : 32= : 15-
E73 70 54.3% : 27+ : 22= : 21-
E74 22 56.8% : 7+ : 11= : 4-
E75 39 62.8% : 18+ : 13= : 8-
E76 31 51.6% : 7+ : 18= : 6-
E77 21 59.5% : 7+ : 11= : 3-
E78 8 56.3% : 2+ : 5= : 1-
E79 4 50.0% : 1+ : 2= : 1-
E80 20 52.5% : 7+ : 7= : 6-
E81 67 53.7% : 25+ : 22= : 20-
E82 19 42.1% : 4+ : 8= : 7-
E83 27 48.1% : 8+ : 10= : 9-
E84 26 57.7% : 11+ : 8= : 7-
E85 18 58.3% : 6+ : 9= : 3-
E86 43 61.6% : 19+ : 15= : 9-
E87 36 50.0% : 14+ : 8= : 14-
E88 31 54.8% : 13+ : 8= : 10-
E89 4 37.5% : 1+ : 1= : 2-
E90 87 59.8% : 40+ : 24= : 23-
E91 55 76.4% : 34+ : 16= : 5-
E92 83 58.4% : 31+ : 35= : 17-
E93 17 55.9% : 8+ : 3= : 6-
E94 98 52.6% : 31+ : 41= : 26-
E95 23 63.0% : 10+ : 9= : 4-
E96 2 50.0% : 1+ : 0= : 1-
E97 82 48.8% : 19+ : 42= : 21-
E98 8 62.5% : 4+ : 2= : 2-
E99 5 60.0% : 2+ : 2= : 1-
Thank you for FEOBOS and for hosting Wasp, Frank!
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: FEOBOS: Need help ...
Hi,
wow, perfect material for myself.
Have many, many thanks for it.
I will all what I have added in a database and compare it with the 10 engine analysis in Excel.
Missed ECO Codes:
I am working with Shredder GUI 12 all the times only and the book settings I am using I added on FEOBOS site. Possible that with other settings / GUI all is a bit harder and rarely ECO codes are not often enough of the board.
FEOBOS is three moves after ECO Codes formed.
Better is not to delete the moves higher as 12 or different ECO codes are very rarely or never on the board, c99 is a good example.
But the biggest problem I have for now:
FEOBOS should be have priorities for each move.
I have to set all the priorities by hand (interest to do that for Shredder GUI only).
I wrote in CSS Forum that 151 good known main lines (found in written strong opening books) engines killed after analyses.
151 of 176 I found. The other 25 never I have in FEOBOS or before in FCP Live Book.
8 lines I found, most of engines are playing directly bad moves.
Only Andscacs played this 8 lines perfect. Stockfish, Komodo, Houdini 7, Wasp 6 ...
Very hard lines ... better I delete the lines, not sure here!
I have interest to added priorities by hand, delete lines (draws undo 20 moves after checking by hand) and to added good known playable lines I losed after 10 engines analysis. I have interest to added missed lines I found in the last weeks.
A lot of work and in the next 2 months no time for it but at first I need a good organisation for the changes I will do.
So I am working on a plan.
And yes, you are the person I wrote before / have in my brain.
I am searching your older message but I can't found it.
Your help is really perfect for me !!! and !!! x more!
Again, 1000x thanks, such material I need and I am sure I can make FEOBOS better.
99% perfect is my personal wish, with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3 I am in the near but I can make it better but only with work and analysis by hand.
Thanks again!
Very happy about it.
Best
Frank
wow, perfect material for myself.
Have many, many thanks for it.
I will all what I have added in a database and compare it with the 10 engine analysis in Excel.
Missed ECO Codes:
I am working with Shredder GUI 12 all the times only and the book settings I am using I added on FEOBOS site. Possible that with other settings / GUI all is a bit harder and rarely ECO codes are not often enough of the board.
FEOBOS is three moves after ECO Codes formed.
Better is not to delete the moves higher as 12 or different ECO codes are very rarely or never on the board, c99 is a good example.
But the biggest problem I have for now:
FEOBOS should be have priorities for each move.
I have to set all the priorities by hand (interest to do that for Shredder GUI only).
I wrote in CSS Forum that 151 good known main lines (found in written strong opening books) engines killed after analyses.
151 of 176 I found. The other 25 never I have in FEOBOS or before in FCP Live Book.
8 lines I found, most of engines are playing directly bad moves.
Only Andscacs played this 8 lines perfect. Stockfish, Komodo, Houdini 7, Wasp 6 ...
Very hard lines ... better I delete the lines, not sure here!
I have interest to added priorities by hand, delete lines (draws undo 20 moves after checking by hand) and to added good known playable lines I losed after 10 engines analysis. I have interest to added missed lines I found in the last weeks.
A lot of work and in the next 2 months no time for it but at first I need a good organisation for the changes I will do.
So I am working on a plan.
And yes, you are the person I wrote before / have in my brain.
I am searching your older message but I can't found it.
Your help is really perfect for me !!! and !!! x more!
Again, 1000x thanks, such material I need and I am sure I can make FEOBOS better.
99% perfect is my personal wish, with FEOBOS 20.1 Contempt 3 I am in the near but I can make it better but only with work and analysis by hand.
Thanks again!
Very happy about it.
Best
Frank