Developer tests of Stockfish need Stockfish 8 instead of Stockfish 7

[Leo]

Right. TCEC is very necessary. Maybe Spassky would have defeated Fischer after a scientific amount of games.

[AndrewGrant]

The best we can hope for from this thread is that corres will learn to use the quote function

[Guenther]

The best we can hope for from this thread is that corres will learn to use the quote function

He will not. He was already asked for using it correctly a few times in the past.
His answer was that he wants to keep his special style...and will never use the quote function.

(He was one of the first I added to my ignore list anyway for various other reasons)

[AndrewGrant]

special style

Special alright ....

[corres]

Poor Stockfish is so unfortunate that after 48 turns its Elo loss enhanced to 121 Elo.
If the chance do not behave accidental-like it is not merely unfortunate - at least in my opinion.

[sovaz1997]

Poor Stockfish is so unfortunate that after 48 turns its Elo loss enhanced to 121 Elo.
If the chance do not behave accidental-like it is not merely unfortunate - at least in my opinion.

Here begins the Superfinal, where Stockfish himself will show his strength

[JJJ]

Komodo has still the best contempt against weaker engines. If Komodo would be as strong as Stockfish dev, he might have lead this tournament with much more points. So Stockfish contempt is nice, but not as effective as his counterpart Komodo. Komodo might still be the best engine at imbalance as well.

[sovaz1997]

Komodo might still be the best engine at imbalance as well.

Very much I doubt. We need tests to prove this fact.

[Leo]

I think that the expected result may be 69% when stockfish was lucky in season 11 and unlucky in season 12

You would be right if the participants are the same.
But it is not the situation.
Now Stockfish is relative weaker than it was.

Its hard to imagine luck playing a role in the Super final. Maybe Stockfish is getting really lucky in season 12 and we need 20,000 games to prove it has won fairly. ( Assuming it goes on to win the Super final.)

[mjlef]

Komodo has still the best contempt against weaker engines. If Komodo would be as strong as Stockfish dev, he might have lead this tournament with much more points. So Stockfish contempt is nice, but not as effective as his counterpart Komodo. Komodo might still be the best engine at imbalance as well.

Since I wrote Komodo's COntempt features, I know quite a lot about it. But I would not claim its contempt is better without data. Perhaps you can give some data?

Mark