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Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:16 am
by Fuddur
Great! Ethereal is back.
Now, in tcec s13,
ETHEREAL RAMPAGE IS ABOUT TO BEGINNNNNNNN.
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:29 am
by Gary Internet
I don't know anything about what happened but I'm guessing that Knight_Moves was the one trying to ban Andrew Grant because this morning when I go to the TCEC website I'm confronted with the crappy old GUI. Knight_Moves is obviously protesting against his decision being overturned by leaving and taking his GUI with him. It's sad that TCEC still suffers to some degree. That new GUI had dragged it kicking and screaming into this decade.
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:04 am
by AndrewGrant
You would be correct about your guess.
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:27 am
by Joerg Oster
Gary Internet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:29 am
I don't know anything about what happened but I'm
guessing that Knight_Moves was the one trying to ban Andrew Grant because this morning when I go to the TCEC website I'm confronted with the crappy old GUI. Knight_Moves is obviously protesting against his decision being overturned by leaving and taking his GUI with him. It's sad that TCEC still suffers to some degree. That new GUI had dragged it kicking and screaming into this decade.
What a kindergarten over there ...
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm
by gotogo
Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm
by Guenther
gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm
Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
You don't mean this serious, eh? Somehow I have the feeling I need to fresh up my *ignore* list.
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:49 pm
by Albert Silver
Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm
gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm
Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
You don't mean this serious, eh? Somehow I have the feeling I need to fresh up my *ignore* list.
+1
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:59 pm
by tpoppins
gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm
Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
Amazingly perceptive observations. Let's not forget Lucas B. too, the author of Discocheck and Demolito, who's been a main SF contributor for years. No wonder that despite being developed for a decade Stockfish is still a mere 3400 Elo -- it's been sabotaged almost from the start. It could have been over 9000!
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:42 pm
by syzygy
Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm
gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm
Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
You don't mean this serious, eh? Somehow I have the feeling I need to fresh up my *ignore* list.
Where are trigger-happy moderators when you need them
Re: TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:48 pm
by hgm
At the WCCC? Normally moderators would only see postings that are reported, and they would only act against those when these violate the charter.