Re: Ivanhoe plays singlecore in TCEC 13 !!
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:58 am
what a mess.. some people definitely need to chill out and start to realize the world is not, and never will, be as they want it to be
You were well within your rights to get this rectified, but you saw fit not to ?
Don't attribute to misconfiguration what can be explained by false (or inappropriate) sharing of cache lines.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:31 am Yesterday I was watching the game between Deus-X and Tucano and noticed that Tucano shows an incredibly low speed (around 1 mnps, sometimes even lower), so I suspect it was only using one core. Also the configured hash (1024 Mb) seems very low for a lazy-smp engine with these long thinking times. Maybe misconfiguration or is this normal behaviour for Tucano? I don't know.
TCEC tournament director is totally incompetent. Was already the case with Martin, is even worse with Anton. They haven't written any code, neither chess engines, nor the website, nor the cutechess backend. They just collect advertising revenue, and sell VIP status to trigger-happy morons for a fee.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:12 am In the past when Martin was still in charge of TCEC each engine was thoroughly checked before it was entered in the tournament.
Now it seems more like playing Pacman. TCEC will lose a lot of credibility with all these nonsense.
Tucano seems to show n/s of the main thread only, so it is impossible to guess how many cores it uses without looking at the task-manager. Ivanhoe (same version) runs 15 times faster on my own machine, so it is clear that it is only using 1 core at TCEC.syzygy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:43 amDon't attribute to misconfiguration what can be explained by false (or inappropriate) sharing of cache lines.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:31 am Yesterday I was watching the game between Deus-X and Tucano and noticed that Tucano shows an incredibly low speed (around 1 mnps, sometimes even lower), so I suspect it was only using one core. Also the configured hash (1024 Mb) seems very low for a lazy-smp engine with these long thinking times. Maybe misconfiguration or is this normal behaviour for Tucano? I don't know.
This may also be the problem with Ivanhoe.
Don't be too harsh on Martin, the few times I had my engine play at TCEC Martin was always very helpful and responsive and tried to get the best out of it. After Chessdom took over it went down hill, I agree.lucasart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:30 amTCEC tournament director is totally incompetent. Was already the case with Martin, is even worse with Anton. They haven't written any code, neither chess engines, nor the website, nor the cutechess backend. They just collect advertising revenue, and sell VIP status to trigger-happy morons for a fee.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:12 am In the past when Martin was still in charge of TCEC each engine was thoroughly checked before it was entered in the tournament.
Now it seems more like playing Pacman. TCEC will lose a lot of credibility with all these nonsense.
What we need instead are programmers that understand what they are doing…
PS: DeusX, really ? It's just LC0 with random changes by someone who has no clue what he is doing. How does that qualify ? Wasn't there supposed to be some clone filtering rule ?
I do not think that it was ok to accept DeusX but I do not think that the changes are random changes by someone who has no clue what he is doing.lucasart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:30 amTCEC tournament director is totally incompetent. Was already the case with Martin, is even worse with Anton. They haven't written any code, neither chess engines, nor the website, nor the cutechess backend. They just collect advertising revenue, and sell VIP status to trigger-happy morons for a fee.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:12 am In the past when Martin was still in charge of TCEC each engine was thoroughly checked before it was entered in the tournament.
Now it seems more like playing Pacman. TCEC will lose a lot of credibility with all these nonsense.
What we need instead are programmers that understand what they are doing…
PS: DeusX, really ? It's just LC0 with random changes by someone who has no clue what he is doing. How does that qualify ? Wasn't there supposed to be some clone filtering rule ?
I guess this explains you don't enter Demolito. I've suggested it to Anton + Admins for S12 and S13.lucasart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:30 amTCEC tournament director is totally incompetent. Was already the case with Martin, is even worse with Anton. They haven't written any code, neither chess engines, nor the website, nor the cutechess backend. They just collect advertising revenue, and sell VIP status to trigger-happy morons for a fee.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:12 am In the past when Martin was still in charge of TCEC each engine was thoroughly checked before it was entered in the tournament.
Now it seems more like playing Pacman. TCEC will lose a lot of credibility with all these nonsense.
What we need instead are programmers that understand what they are doing…
PS: DeusX, really ? It's just LC0 with random changes by someone who has no clue what he is doing. How does that qualify ? Wasn't there supposed to be some clone filtering rule ?