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Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:41 am
by Maharadja
megamau wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:39 am I find DrCliche attitude absolutely appalling.
You may find me suspicious, but I think we might have here a strange case of Dr Cliche and Mr Grant...

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:43 am
by AndrewGrant
Maharadja wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:41 am
megamau wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:39 am I find DrCliche attitude absolutely appalling.
You may find me suspicious, but I think we might have here a strange case of Dr Cliche and Mr Grant...
Strange case of two competent people in the same room

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:45 am
by Maharadja
AndrewGrant wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:43 am
Maharadja wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:41 am
megamau wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:39 am I find DrCliche attitude absolutely appalling.
You may find me suspicious, but I think we might have here a strange case of Dr Cliche and Mr Grant...
Strange case of two competent people in the same room
I would be not surprised if you are talking here about a physical room

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:46 am
by AndrewGrant
Maharadja wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:45 am
AndrewGrant wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:43 am
Maharadja wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:41 am
megamau wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:39 am I find DrCliche attitude absolutely appalling.
You may find me suspicious, but I think we might have here a strange case of Dr Cliche and Mr Grant...
Strange case of two competent people in the same room
I would be not surprised if you are talking here about a physical room
What (if anything) can I do to prove otherwise

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:19 am
by elcabesa
Maharadja wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:41 am
megamau wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:39 am I find DrCliche attitude absolutely appalling.
You may find me suspicious, but I think we might have here a strange case of Dr Cliche and Mr Grant...
you may be right or wrong, we cannot prove or reject this supposition.
so please don't accuse Andrew and start a flame war.
Thank you

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm
by tomitank
The Fire vs Lc0 and Komodo vs Lc0 etc.. games proved that artificial intelligence (NN in Chess) is not 100% trustworthy!

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:44 pm
by jp
tomitank wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm The Fire vs Lc0 and Komodo vs Lc0 etc.. games proved that artificial intelligence (NN in Chess) is not 100% trustworthy!
We don't need those games to know that.

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:48 pm
by frankp
tomitank wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm The Fire vs Lc0 and Komodo vs Lc0 etc.. games proved that artificial intelligence (NN in Chess) is not 100% trustworthy!
I was watching st louis 960 competition and certainly those chess-playing-monkeys are not be trusted either :)

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:52 pm
by MikeGL
Thanks for this thread.
Looks like a very interesting tournament.
Have some kind and generous souls here created a game archive or a PGN file complete with games from this [chess. com] tournament?
Nay Lin Tun wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:47 am In September 3, 2018, chess.com will be hosting their computer chess championship for this year. There are a lot of background factors that favor Leela to be able to fight for No 1 vs the best AB engine , Stockfish. Of course, if you recently saw Leela performance in TCEC Division 3, this post will be a big joke( But in bonus games, she draw all 9 games vs Stockfish 8 and Ethereal).

Improvement factors/favoring factors for Leela,

1. 4x V 100 for Leela vs 48 cores ( GPU/CPU ratio will be 3.6 times in favor for Leela than TCEC, approximately + 90 elo)
2. Newer ID are already stronger than 520 (at least +50 elo)
3. Leela will have Tablebase support (possibly +20 elo)

As latest version of stockfish is only 100 elo stronger than stockfish 8, Leela will be in more favour if she can effectively use 4x V100 and Tablebases.

https://www.chess.com/computer-chess-championship

Re: Chess.com 2018 computer chess championship

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:12 pm
by Guenther
MikeGL wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:52 pm Thanks for this thread.
Looks like a very interesting tournament.
Have some kind and generous souls here created a game archive or a PGN file complete with games from this [chess. com] tournament?
At the end of page 7 in this thread, Ted alias AdminX, provided two inofficial links with the full info pgn files.
Beware though that not every GUI can load this file completely, since game 424 or 425 in that collection
(including unterminated and replayed games) has 395 moves! (LC0 vs. Komodo)

Guenther