32-core 3.3 Ghz Arm CPU
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:03 am
I wouldn't be so sure https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/Eelco de Groot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:47 amFor now, I don't think Windows 10 runs on ARM architecture.
Microsoft emulates x86 on ARM, there are already a few laptops with ARM architecture running this, the problem is that it runs so slow that it is not very usable in practice.mar wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:01 pmI wouldn't be so sure https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/Eelco de Groot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:47 amFor now, I don't think Windows 10 runs on ARM architecture.
Emulated x86 apps will be slow for sure (my guess about an order of magnitude even if JITted, just the cost of emulation itself),Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:36 pm Microsoft emulates x86 on ARM, there are already a few laptops with ARM architecture running this, the problem is that it runs so slow that it is not very usable in practice.
It is possible that both kernel and drivers are native on ARM, I don't know, the emulated x86 apps however, run very slow.mar wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:46 pmEmulated x86 apps will be slow for sure (my guess about an order of magnitude even if JITted, just the cost of emulation itself),Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:36 pm Microsoft emulates x86 on ARM, there are already a few laptops with ARM architecture running this, the problem is that it runs so slow that it is not very usable in practice.
but both kernel and drivers are native ARM from what I've read.
So if you compile native ARM64 binary (you should be able to with VS, I haven't tried as I don't own such HW), it should run just fine.
Unless you meant x86 chips vs ARM chips, is the difference really still that big?
I've read somewhere that recent Apple's ARM mobile chips are very fast and comparable to old desktop chips?
Both kernel and drivers are ARM native, that's a fact.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:27 pm It is possible that both kernel and drivers are native on ARM, I don't know, the emulated x86 apps however, run very slow.
Here are some benchmarks from emulated and native apps on a snapdragon 835. https://www.techspot.com/review/1599-wi ... page2.html
Anyway, why would you want to run Windows on ARM if you can't run native Windows apps with acceptable performance?
There is not much difference between ARM cores on newest cellphones, and those. The only difference is slightly higher frequency.MikeGL wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:03 am https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/1 ... _shipping/
Sounds interesting.