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lech
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Sting SF 11

Post by lech » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:30 pm

The project Sting is to prove that there is possible to join the ELO and IQ abilities and to create some quasi-intelligent Alpha-Beta chess engines.
Sting is "one brain in one head" engine. It means Sting doesn't use some trick parameters: null-move disabling, rule-50 changing etc..
Sting plays and solves in the same way.

The next step of my work is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/cwbpf4ku5 ... 1.zip/file
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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by Dariusz » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:10 pm

Good news! :)

Below macOS exec:
https://www.solidfiles.com/v/pW3LzkNkXk2Me
Regards, Dariusz

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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by Fuddur » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:17 pm

Is there sting for android?
Thanks

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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:49 pm

Can someone make a link to the source that is not on mediafire or dropbox?
My internet will not allow me to collect from those places.
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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by Damir » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:56 pm


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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:08 pm

Damir wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:56 pm
Hi Dann

Try this one: https://wetransfer.com/downloads/bbe67d ... 506/b0e4e1
Thank you very much. That worked for me.
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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by lech » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:36 pm

Some words about the new version.
Now, you can try to solve each very difficult position (Machines don't cry! :wink: )
But it is not the end of my work. The version 11 is probably the last step before an important gate.
I see a new amazing area. It may take some longer time, for this is the version 11.
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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:41 pm

lech wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:36 pm
Some words about the new version.
Now, you can try to solve each very difficult position (Machines don't cry! :wink: )
But it is not the end of my work. The version 11 is probably the last step before an important gate.
I see a new amazing area. It may take some longer time, for this is the version 11.
Thank you for all of your efforts. Sting is a must have it engine.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.

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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by peter » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:44 pm

Hello Marek!
lech wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:30 pm
The next step of my work is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/cwbpf4ku5 ... 1.zip/file
To celebrate nr.11, one of the masterpieces Sting can master better then all the other engines.
Salai Ladislav Jr. (a little pity is only the Major Dual 1.Bd1, but that's even more difficult to find than 1.f4):



Analysis by Sting 11 based on Stockfish 2.1.1 64bit:

Code: Select all

1.Kd7 Ld2 
  +-  (1.73 --)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:03  6kN
...
1.Kd7 Ld2 2.Kc6 La5 3.b4 cxb4 4.Lb3+ Kg7 5.Kd5 Kf6 6.Ke4 h5 7.Kf4 Kg6 8.Kg3 Kf5 9.f4 Kf6 10.Kh4 Kf5 11.Kxh5 Kxf4 12.Kh4 Kf3 13.Kg5 Kxf2 14.Kf4 Ke2 15.Ke4 Kd2 16.Ke5 Kd3 17.Kd6 Ke3 18.Kc6 Kd3 19.Kd5 Ke3 
  +-  (1.89)   Tiefe: 24   00:00:05  10101kN
1.f4 
  +-  (2.02 ++)   Tiefe: 25   00:00:06  14114kN
1.f4 Lxf4 2.Kd7 h5 3.Kc6 Kf7 4.Kxb6 h4 5.a4 h3 6.Le4 h2 7.a5 Ke7 8.a6 Lb8 9.Kxc5 Ke6 10.b6 Kd7 11.Kc4 Ld6 12.a7 Le7 13.a8D Ld6 14.Kd5 Le7 15.b7 Ld6 16.b8D Lxb8 17.Dxb8 Ke7 18.Dxh2 
  +-  (2.14 ++)   Tiefe: 25   00:00:06  18197kN
...
1.f4 Lxf4 2.Kd7 Ld2 3.Kc6 La5 4.b4 cxb4 5.Lb3+ Kg7 6.Kd5 Kf6 7.Ke4 h5 8.Kf4 Kg6 9.Ke5 h4 10.Kf4 Kf6 11.f3 Ke7 12.Kg4 Kd6 13.f4 Kc5 14.f5 h3 15.Kxh3 Kxb5 
  +-  (2.34)   Tiefe: 25   00:00:07  33688kN
1.f4 
  +-  (2.46 ++)   Tiefe: 26   00:00:08  41686kN
1.f4 Lxf4 2.Kd7 Ld2 3.Kc6 La5 4.b4 cxb4 5.Lb3+ Kg7 6.Kd5 Kf6 7.Ke4 h5 8.Kf4 Kg6 9.Ke5 h4 10.Kf4 Kf6 11.f3 Ke7 12.Kg4 Kd6 13.f4 Kc5 14.f5 h3 15.Kxh3 Kxb5 16.f6 Kc5 17.f7 Kd6 18.f8D+ Kc6 19.Dd8 b5 20.Dxa5 Kd6 21.Dxb4+ Kc6 22.Dc4+ 
  +-  (2.58 ++)   Tiefe: 26   00:00:09  58660kN
...
1.f4 Lxf4 2.Kd7 Ld2 3.Kc6 La5 4.b4 cxb4 5.Lb3+ Kg7 6.Kd5 Kf6 7.Ke4 h5 8.Kf4 Kg6 9.Ke5 h4 10.Kf4 Kf6 11.f3 Ke7 12.Kg4 Kd6 13.f4 Ke7 14.Kxh4 Kf6 15.Kg4 Kg6 16.f5+ Kf6 17.Kf4 Ke7 18.Kg5 Ke8 19.f6 Kf8 20.f7 Ke7 21.Kh5 Kf8 22.Kg6 Ke7 23.Kg7 Kd7 24.f8D Kc7 
  +-  (3.87 ++)   Tiefe: 30   00:00:21  250MN
...
1.f4 Lxf4 2.Kd7 Le5 3.Kc6 Ld4 4.Kxb6 c4+ 5.Kb7 c3 6.a4 Kf7 7.a5 h5 8.a6 h4 9.a7 Lxa7 10.Kxa7 h3 11.b6 h2 12.b7 h1D 13.b8D Da1+ 14.Kb6 Db2 15.Df4+ Kg7 16.Dg5+ Kf8 17.Df6+ Kg8 18.Df5 Kg7 19.Dg6+ Kf8 20.Kc5 Ke7 21.Dg5+ 
  +-  (6.82 ++)   Tiefe: 32   00:00:57  829MN
1.f4 Lf6 2.Kd7 Ld4 3.Kc6 h5 4.a4 Lxf2 5.Kxb6 c4+ 6.Ka6 c3 7.b6 Le3 8.a5 h4 9.b7 Lxf4 10.Kb5 h3 11.a6 h2 12.a7 h1D 13.b8D+ Lxb8 14.axb8D+ Kf7 15.Df4+ Kg8 16.Dg5+ Kf8 17.Kb4 Db7+ 18.Db5 Da8 19.Df5+ 
  +-  (6.90)   Tiefe: 32   00:01:01  873MN
...
1.f4 Lf6 2.Kd7 Ld4 3.Kc6 h5 4.a4 Lxf2 5.Kxb6 c4+ 6.Ka6 c3 7.b6 Le3 8.b7 Lxf4 9.a5 h4 10.Kb5 h3 11.a6 h2 12.a7 h1D 13.b8D+ Lxb8 14.axb8D+ Kf7 15.Dc7+ Kf8 16.Dd6+ Kg8 17.De6+ Kf8 18.Df5+ Kg7 19.Dg5+ Kf8 20.Kb4 De1 21.Df6+ Kg8 22.Lg6 c2+ 23.Ka4 De4+ 24.Lxe4 c1D 25.Dd4 Kf7 26.b4 Ke7 27.b5 Dg5 28.b6 Dh5 29.b7 De8+ 30.Kb4 Db8 31.Dc5+ Kf7 32.Dc8 Dd6+ 33.Kc4 Da6+ 
  +-  (9.61)   Tiefe: 36   00:03:38  2584MN
...
1.f4 Lf6 2.Kd7 Ld4 3.Kc6 h5 4.a4 Lxf2 5.Kxb6 c4+ 6.Ka6 c3 7.b6 Le3 8.a5 h4 9.b7 Lxf4 10.Kb5 h3 11.a6 h2 12.a7 h1D 13.b8D+ Lxb8 14.axb8D+ Kg7 15.De5+ Kf7 16.Df4+ Kg8 17.Dg4+ Kf8 18.Df4+ 
  +-  (10.02)   Tiefe: 37   00:04:26  3322MN
...
1.f4 Lf6 2.Kd7 Ld4 3.Kc6 h5 4.a4 Lxf2 5.Kxb6 c4+ 6.Ka6 c3 7.b6 Le3 8.a5 h4 9.b7 Lxf4 10.Kb5 h3 11.a6 h2 12.a7 h1D 13.b8D+ Lxb8 14.axb8D+ Kg7 15.Dg3+ Kf7 16.Dg6+ Ke7 17.De4+ Dxe4 18.Lxe4 Kd7 19.Kb4 Kd6 20.Kxc3 Kc5 21.Lc2 Kb5 22.Lg6 Kc5 23.Le4 Kb6 24.Kc4 Ka5 25.Kc5 Ka6 26.b4 Ka7 27.b5 Kb8 28.b6 Kc8 29.Kc4 
  +-  (10.26 ++)   Tiefe: 39   00:05:00  3784MN
Peter.

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Re: Sting SF 11

Post by lech » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:33 pm

I added 4 new examples to "IQ" test.

The "IQ" test is a very important part of my project and doesn't contain middle-game tactical positions and technical endgames.
Here are only positions dedicated to test so-called by me quasi-intelligent abilities of engines.
Don't use such external tricks like: rule-50 changing, null-move disabling, special parameters and others.
MultiPV, tablebases and "Monte Carlo" are not welcome too.
Time to solve each of items should be 30 minutes for 1 000 000 nodes/second speed. It means 3 minutes for 10 000 000 nodes/second only. Of course, the going on last depth should not be broken.
The DRAW result means ZERO score or a missing gain.
The WIN result means the correct solution mainly and any gain.
Here are rather easy, sometimes specially simplified be me, examples of possible problems for a clessic model of engines.
The spectrum of examples (90 items) and estimated time of solving are not accidental.



The authors of studies selected to the "IQ" test:

by YACPDB:

Blathy Otto - 2, 11, 12
Benko Pal - 15, 74
Hasek Josef - 21, 27
Gurvich Abram - 22
Kasparyan Genrikh - 23
Neghina Mihai - 26
Grasemann Herbert - 36
Rudolph William - 45
Troitzky Aleksei - 56
Reti Richard - 57
Matous Mario - 59
Behting Carl - 61
Klyackin Mihail - 65
Kubbel Karl - 68
Novomesky Daniel - 72
Lazard Frederic - 73
Marwitz Jan - 78
Lamford Paul - 81
Simkhovich Froim - 85
Popov Georgy & Hanyan Aleksei (part of study) - 38

by other sources (Talkchess.com):

Hoch Yehuda & Aloni Hillel - 54
Neghina Mihai - 10, 30, 83, 86, 88
Surya Sekhar Ganguly - 80
Aleksandr Stavrietsky - 87
Maybe, I can't be friendly, but let me be useful.

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