Queen vs 2 Knights

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Eduard
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Queen vs 2 Knights

Post by Eduard »

Fallowing game is a reason why I love Computerchess more than Human Chess.
If I can watching such funny games, I am very happy!

[Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2018.12.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Andysan, Raubfisch X39e2"]
[Black "SolistaChess, Stockfish 011218 64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A07"]
[WhiteElo "2480"]
[BlackElo "2416"]
[Annotator "0.30;0.35"]
[PlyCount "298"]
[EventDate "2018.12.03"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{Raubfisch X39e2 (8 threads): 32.0 plies; 11.653kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700
CPU @ 3.40GHz 3408MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads), enMatch.ctg, 128 MB} 1. Nf3 {B 0}
Nf6 {B 0} 2. g3 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 3. Bg2 {B 0} c6 {B 0} 4. O-O {B 0} Bg4 {B 0} 5.
h3 {B 0} Bh5 {0.35/23 15} 6. c4 {B 0 (d4)} e6 {0.32/21 7} 7. d4 {B 0 (d3)} Nbd7
{0.30/25 21} 8. cxd5 {B 0} cxd5 {0.22/22 3} 9. Bf4 {B 0 (Qb3)} Bxf3 {0.12/22 3}
10. Bxf3 {B 0} Be7 {0.09/23 9} 11. Nc3 {B 0} O-O {0.20/21 4} 12. Kg2 {B 0 (Qd3)
} Nb6 {0.00/22 6} 13. e3 {0.30/29 23 (Qb3)} h6 {0.15/22 11 (Tc8)} 14. Rc1 {
0.35/28 7} Rc8 {0.18/25 3} 15. h4 {0.29/29 3} Bd6 {0.05/25 2} 16. Ne2 {0.37/28
0 (Bxd6)} Rxc1 {0.00/27 5} 17. Qxc1 {0.38/29 0} Qe7 {0.05/27 3} 18. Qb1 {
0.38/30 2 (b3)} Rc8 {0.22/28 13} 19. Rc1 {0.45/33 0} Bxf4 {0.20/28 5} 20. Nxf4
{0.41/32 3} Nc4 {0.21/28 0 (Tc7)} 21. b3 {0.52/31 9 (Rc2)} Nd6 {0.24/25 2} 22.
Rxc8+ {0.51/31 1} Nxc8 {0.32/29 3} 23. Qc2 {0.39/33 12 (Qc1)} Nd6 {0.26/29 7}
24. h5 {0.44/31 13} Qd8 {0.20/28 0 (Sfe8)} 25. Be2 {0.42/30 4 (Nd3)} a6 {
0.23/27 4 (Dc8)} 26. f3 {0.53/30 4 (Nd3)} Qa5 {0.40/25 12 (Dc8)} 27. Kf2 {
0.57/29 11} Qb4 {0.40/33 0 (Kf8)} 28. g4 {0.49/30 7 (Bd3)} Nfe8 {0.39/32 4
(Da5)} 29. Qc1 {0.50/32 9 (a4)} Qa5 {0.29/28 4} 30. a3 {0.50/34 7} Nf6 {
0.30/30 0} 31. Kf1 {0.50/31 4 (Kg2)} Nd7 {0.30/26 3} 32. a4 {0.50/32 6 (Bd3)}
Qd8 {0.39/31 9 (Db6)} 33. Qc3 {0.48/30 15} Nb8 {0.39/30 0 (Kf8)} 34. Kf2 {
0.55/27 4} Qh4+ {0.41/27 7 (Sd7)} 35. Kg2 {0.60/27 2} Qd8 {0.43/28 0 (De7)} 36.
Nd3 {0.54/32 7 (Kf1)} Nd7 {0.33/25 2} 37. a5 {0.52/31 2} Nf6 {0.35/26 1} 38.
Nc5 {0.72/31 14 (Nf4)} Nfe8 {0.28/24 3} 39. Qe1 {0.47/29 7} Qg5 {0.25/26 0} 40.
Qc3 {0.52/30 8 (Bd3)} Qh4 {0.36/23 2} 41. Qc1 {0.50/29 3 (Nd3)} Qg5 {0.31/26 18
} 42. Kh3 {0.56/34 0} Qe7 {0.47/26 3} 43. Bd3 {0.50/32 2} Qf6 {0.47/29 3} 44.
Be2 {0.51/33 2 (Kg2)} Qd8 {0.38/28 6 (De7)} 45. Qd2 {0.50/32 10} Qf6 {0.52/28 0
} 46. Kg2 {0.50/33 11 (Qe1)} Qg5 {0.36/25 5} 47. Kh3 {0.43/33 0 (Qc3)} Nc7 {
0.27/23 2} 48. Bf1 {0.45/32 2} Qf6 {0.43/25 1} 49. Be2 {0.44/28 0} Nce8 {
0.34/26 4 (De7)} 50. Bd1 {0.46/28 1 (Qc3)} Qd8 {0.28/26 7 (De7)} 51. Bc2 {
0.50/29 2} Qf6 {0.28/26 0} 52. Qe2 {0.51/31 2 (Qf2)} Qe7 {0.23/26 8 (Dg5)} 53.
Qh2 {0.42/30 3 (b4)} Qf6 {0.23/25 5 (Dd8)} 54. Qf2 {0.40/30 4 (Qg3)} Qe7 {
0.25/26 4} 55. Qh4 {0.58/31 8 (Qg3)} Qc7 {0.43/25 6} 56. Qe1 {0.37/31 0} Qe7 {
0.43/22 0} 57. Qf2 {0.55/26 1 (Kg2)} e5 {0.46/23 5} 58. dxe5 {0.45/29 0} Qxe5 {
0.33/22 1 (Sc4)} 59. Qd2 {0.59/25 1} f5 {0.48/24 0 (Sb5)} 60. Qd4 {0.87/27 1}
fxg4+ {0.53/25 0} 61. fxg4 {0.81/32 2} Qxd4 {0.55/27 1} 62. exd4 {0.62/33 3}
Nb5 {0.44/26 0} 63. Nxb7 {0.83/34 3 (Bd3)} Nxd4 {0.60/28 2} 64. Bd3 {0.50/33 0}
Nxb3 {0.32/22 0} 65. Bxa6 {0.88/33 3} Nc7 {0.41/27 0} 66. Bf1 {0.94/30 2 (Bd3)}
Nd2 {0.24/23 2} 67. Be2 {0.73/32 4 (Bd3)} Nc4 {0.37/25 2} 68. Bd3 {0.66/33 0
(Kg3)} Kf8 {0.36/25 2} 69. Kg3 {0.57/32 0} Ke7 {0.40/24 1} 70. Bf5 {0.47/31 0}
Ne5 {0.33/24 3 (Kf7)} 71. Nc5 {0.72/32 9} Kd6 {0.24/27 0} 72. Kf4 {0.57/29 0
(Nb3)} Nc4 {0.09/22 1} 73. Nb3 {0.59/30 0} Kc6 {0.06/22 1} 74. Bb1 {0.60/28 0
(g5)} Ne8 {0.59/23 7} 75. Bg6 {0.50/31 0} Nc7 {0.53/23 0} 76. Bb1 {0.30/29 3
(Bf7)} Ne8 {0.36/23 1} 77. Bf5 {0.19/28 1 (Bg6)} Nc7 {0.09/21 1} 78. Bd3 {
0.16/28 2 (Bc8)} Kb5 {0.00/20 1} 79. Kf5 {0.81/27 0} Kb4 {0.00/21 1 (Ka4)} 80.
Kg6 {0.90/27 1 (Nd4)} Ne5+ {0.00/21 1 (Kxb3)} 81. Kxg7 {2.25/22 1} Nxd3 {
0.00/25 0} 82. g5 {1.98/26 1 (Nd4)} Ne6+ {0.00/20 1 (hxg5)} 83. Kf6 {2.91/25 1}
Nxg5 {1.69/23 0} 84. a6 {3.25/26 0} Ne4+ {0.00/23 0} 85. Kg7 {2.92/31 1 (Kg6)}
Nec5 {0.00/21 0 (Sdc5)} 86. a7 {3.31/31 1 (Nxc5)} Ne6+ {2.42/20 1} 87. Kxh6 {
3.41/35 0} Nc7 {2.32/23 0} 88. Kg7 {3.41/33 0} Kxb3 {1.90/23 0} 89. h6 {
3.41/35 0} Nb4 {1.81/25 0 (Se5)} 90. h7 {3.31/35 1} Nc6 {1.55/26 0} 91. a8=Q {
3.32/36 0 (h8Q)} Nxa8 {1.45/20 1} 92. h8=Q {3.32/40 0} Nc7 {1.36/22 0} 93. Qh3+
{3.41/37 2 (Qh7)} Kb4 {1.26/25 1} 94. Qd7 {3.41/40 0} Nd4 {1.16/26 0} 95. Kg6 {
3.50/33 0 (Qe7+)} Ndb5 {0.59/22 1} 96. Qc6 {3.90/35 0 (Qe7+)} d4 {0.00/26 0
(Ka3)} 97. Kf6 {4.00/38 1 (Qe4)} d3 {0.00/30 0 (Ka5)} 98. Ke5 {4.00/37 1 (Qe4+)
} d2 {0.00/39 0 (Kb3)} 99. Qc2 {4.00/40 1 (Qe4+)} d1=Q {0.00/42 0 (Sc3)} 100.
Qxd1 {4.20/33 0} Kc5 {0.00/0 0} 101. Qf3 {4.49/33 0 SolistaChess,Stockfish
011218 64 offers a draw} Kb6 {0.00/0 0} 102. Qg2 {4.66/33 0} Na6 {0.00/1 0
(Kc5)} 103. Qg1+ {4.86/30 1} Kb7 {0.00/0 0} 104. Qh1+ {4.66/36 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 0
} 105. Qg1+ {4.66/36 0} Kb7 {0.00/0 0} 106. Qg2+ {4.66/37 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 0}
107. Qf2+ {4.66/38 0} Kc6 {0.00/0 0 (Kb7)} 108. Qf3+ {4.66/38 0} Kc5 {0.00/0 0
(Kc7)} 109. Qd5+ {4.66/36 0} Kb6 {0.00/1 0} 110. Qg2 {4.66/38 0} Nac7 {0.00/0
0 (Sa7)} 111. Qe4 {4.66/41 0} Na6 {0.00/1 0 (Kc5)} 112. Qb1 {4.66/38 1} Nac7 {
0.00/0 0 (Kc6)} 113. Qe4 {4.66/40 0} Na6 {0.00/1 0 (Kc5)} 114. Qb1 {4.66/41 1}
Nac7 {0.00/0 0 (Kc6)} 115. Qh1 {4.66/40 1} Na6 {0.00/1 0} 116. Qh6+ {4.66/40 0}
Kb7 {0.00/1 0} 117. Kd5 {4.66/40 0} Na7 {0.00/1 0} 118. Qh7+ {4.66/38 0} Kb6 {
0.00/1 0} 119. Qb1+ {4.66/39 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 120. Qa1 {4.66/40 0} Kb6 {
0.00/0 0 (Kb7)} 121. Qb1+ {4.66/38 2} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 122. Qa1 {4.66/36 0} Kb6 {
0.00/0 0 (Kb7)} 123. Qd4+ {4.66/36 0} Kb7 {0.00/1 0} 124. Qb2+ {4.66/35 1} Kc7
{0.00/1 0} 125. Qe5+ {4.66/37 0} Kb7 {0.00/0 0 (Kb6)} 126. Qb2+ {4.66/35 0} Kc7
{0.00/1 0} 127. Kc4 {4.66/34 1} Nb8 {0.00/0 0} 128. Qg7+ {4.66/35 0} Kb6 {
0.00/1 0} 129. Qh7 {4.66/32 0} Nc8 {0.00/0 0 (Sa6)} 130. Kd5 {4.66/33 0} Na7 {
0.00/1 0} 131. Qb1+ {4.66/33 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 132. Qc1+ {4.66/29 0} Kb7 {
0.00/0 0} 133. Qa1 {4.66/30 0} Nc8 {0.00/0 0 (Kb6)} 134. Qb1+ {4.66/24 0} Kc7 {
0.00/1 0} 135. Qe4 {4.66/25 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 0} 136. Qd4+ {4.66/27 0} Kb7 {
0.00/0 0} 137. Qb2+ {4.57/23 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 138. Qe5+ {4.66/21 0} Kb7 {
0.00/1 0} 139. Qa1 {4.66/21 0} Kc7 {0.00/0 0 (Kb6)} 140. Qg7+ {4.05/18 0} Kb6 {
0.00/1 0} 141. Qf6+ {3.79/18 0} Kb7 {0.00/0 0 (Kc7)} 142. Qf4 {2.82/16 1} Na7 {
0.00/1 0} 143. Qf7+ {3.86/17 0} Kb6 {0.00/1 0} 144. Kc4 {4.66/22 0} Na6 {
0.00/0 0} 145. Qg6+ {0.00/32 0} Kb7 {0.00/1 0} 146. Qd6 {0.00/41 0} Nc7 {
0.00/0 0 (Sb8)} 147. Qd7 {0.00/31 0} Kb6 {0.00/1 0} 148. Qd4+ {0.00/64 0} Kb7 {
0.00/1 0} 149. Qa1 {0.00/72 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 2 (Sc8)} 1/2-1/2

[d]8/2n5/8/1n2K3/1k6/8/2Qp4/8 b - - 0 1

Here I thought that Black is lost, and wondered why Black moved now 99...d1Q. :shock:
Are there any others here who would have belived that black is lost?

Few moves later:

[d]1nn5/2k5/8/3K4/8/8/8/1Q6 w - - 0 1

Funny Constellation! :roll:
zullil
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Full name: Louis Zulli

Re: Queen vs 2 Knights

Post by zullil »

Eduard wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:39 am Fallowing game is a reason why I love Computerchess more than Human Chess.
If I can watching such funny games, I am very happy!

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2018.12.03"] [Round "?"] [White "Andysan, Raubfisch X39e2"] [Black "SolistaChess, Stockfish 011218 64"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "A07"] [WhiteElo "2480"] [BlackElo "2416"] [Annotator "0.30;0.35"] [PlyCount "298"] [EventDate "2018.12.03"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {Raubfisch X39e2 (8 threads): 32.0 plies; 11.653kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3408MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads), enMatch.ctg, 128 MB} 1. Nf3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 2. g3 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 3. Bg2 {B 0} c6 {B 0} 4. O-O {B 0} Bg4 {B 0} 5. h3 {B 0} Bh5 {0.35/23 15} 6. c4 {B 0 (d4)} e6 {0.32/21 7} 7. d4 {B 0 (d3)} Nbd7 {0.30/25 21} 8. cxd5 {B 0} cxd5 {0.22/22 3} 9. Bf4 {B 0 (Qb3)} Bxf3 {0.12/22 3} 10. Bxf3 {B 0} Be7 {0.09/23 9} 11. Nc3 {B 0} O-O {0.20/21 4} 12. Kg2 {B 0 (Qd3) } Nb6 {0.00/22 6} 13. e3 {0.30/29 23 (Qb3)} h6 {0.15/22 11 (Tc8)} 14. Rc1 { 0.35/28 7} Rc8 {0.18/25 3} 15. h4 {0.29/29 3} Bd6 {0.05/25 2} 16. Ne2 {0.37/28 0 (Bxd6)} Rxc1 {0.00/27 5} 17. Qxc1 {0.38/29 0} Qe7 {0.05/27 3} 18. Qb1 { 0.38/30 2 (b3)} Rc8 {0.22/28 13} 19. Rc1 {0.45/33 0} Bxf4 {0.20/28 5} 20. Nxf4 {0.41/32 3} Nc4 {0.21/28 0 (Tc7)} 21. b3 {0.52/31 9 (Rc2)} Nd6 {0.24/25 2} 22. Rxc8+ {0.51/31 1} Nxc8 {0.32/29 3} 23. Qc2 {0.39/33 12 (Qc1)} Nd6 {0.26/29 7} 24. h5 {0.44/31 13} Qd8 {0.20/28 0 (Sfe8)} 25. Be2 {0.42/30 4 (Nd3)} a6 { 0.23/27 4 (Dc8)} 26. f3 {0.53/30 4 (Nd3)} Qa5 {0.40/25 12 (Dc8)} 27. Kf2 { 0.57/29 11} Qb4 {0.40/33 0 (Kf8)} 28. g4 {0.49/30 7 (Bd3)} Nfe8 {0.39/32 4 (Da5)} 29. Qc1 {0.50/32 9 (a4)} Qa5 {0.29/28 4} 30. a3 {0.50/34 7} Nf6 { 0.30/30 0} 31. Kf1 {0.50/31 4 (Kg2)} Nd7 {0.30/26 3} 32. a4 {0.50/32 6 (Bd3)} Qd8 {0.39/31 9 (Db6)} 33. Qc3 {0.48/30 15} Nb8 {0.39/30 0 (Kf8)} 34. Kf2 { 0.55/27 4} Qh4+ {0.41/27 7 (Sd7)} 35. Kg2 {0.60/27 2} Qd8 {0.43/28 0 (De7)} 36. Nd3 {0.54/32 7 (Kf1)} Nd7 {0.33/25 2} 37. a5 {0.52/31 2} Nf6 {0.35/26 1} 38. Nc5 {0.72/31 14 (Nf4)} Nfe8 {0.28/24 3} 39. Qe1 {0.47/29 7} Qg5 {0.25/26 0} 40. Qc3 {0.52/30 8 (Bd3)} Qh4 {0.36/23 2} 41. Qc1 {0.50/29 3 (Nd3)} Qg5 {0.31/26 18 } 42. Kh3 {0.56/34 0} Qe7 {0.47/26 3} 43. Bd3 {0.50/32 2} Qf6 {0.47/29 3} 44. Be2 {0.51/33 2 (Kg2)} Qd8 {0.38/28 6 (De7)} 45. Qd2 {0.50/32 10} Qf6 {0.52/28 0 } 46. Kg2 {0.50/33 11 (Qe1)} Qg5 {0.36/25 5} 47. Kh3 {0.43/33 0 (Qc3)} Nc7 { 0.27/23 2} 48. Bf1 {0.45/32 2} Qf6 {0.43/25 1} 49. Be2 {0.44/28 0} Nce8 { 0.34/26 4 (De7)} 50. Bd1 {0.46/28 1 (Qc3)} Qd8 {0.28/26 7 (De7)} 51. Bc2 { 0.50/29 2} Qf6 {0.28/26 0} 52. Qe2 {0.51/31 2 (Qf2)} Qe7 {0.23/26 8 (Dg5)} 53. Qh2 {0.42/30 3 (b4)} Qf6 {0.23/25 5 (Dd8)} 54. Qf2 {0.40/30 4 (Qg3)} Qe7 { 0.25/26 4} 55. Qh4 {0.58/31 8 (Qg3)} Qc7 {0.43/25 6} 56. Qe1 {0.37/31 0} Qe7 { 0.43/22 0} 57. Qf2 {0.55/26 1 (Kg2)} e5 {0.46/23 5} 58. dxe5 {0.45/29 0} Qxe5 { 0.33/22 1 (Sc4)} 59. Qd2 {0.59/25 1} f5 {0.48/24 0 (Sb5)} 60. Qd4 {0.87/27 1} fxg4+ {0.53/25 0} 61. fxg4 {0.81/32 2} Qxd4 {0.55/27 1} 62. exd4 {0.62/33 3} Nb5 {0.44/26 0} 63. Nxb7 {0.83/34 3 (Bd3)} Nxd4 {0.60/28 2} 64. Bd3 {0.50/33 0} Nxb3 {0.32/22 0} 65. Bxa6 {0.88/33 3} Nc7 {0.41/27 0} 66. Bf1 {0.94/30 2 (Bd3)} Nd2 {0.24/23 2} 67. Be2 {0.73/32 4 (Bd3)} Nc4 {0.37/25 2} 68. Bd3 {0.66/33 0 (Kg3)} Kf8 {0.36/25 2} 69. Kg3 {0.57/32 0} Ke7 {0.40/24 1} 70. Bf5 {0.47/31 0} Ne5 {0.33/24 3 (Kf7)} 71. Nc5 {0.72/32 9} Kd6 {0.24/27 0} 72. Kf4 {0.57/29 0 (Nb3)} Nc4 {0.09/22 1} 73. Nb3 {0.59/30 0} Kc6 {0.06/22 1} 74. Bb1 {0.60/28 0 (g5)} Ne8 {0.59/23 7} 75. Bg6 {0.50/31 0} Nc7 {0.53/23 0} 76. Bb1 {0.30/29 3 (Bf7)} Ne8 {0.36/23 1} 77. Bf5 {0.19/28 1 (Bg6)} Nc7 {0.09/21 1} 78. Bd3 { 0.16/28 2 (Bc8)} Kb5 {0.00/20 1} 79. Kf5 {0.81/27 0} Kb4 {0.00/21 1 (Ka4)} 80. Kg6 {0.90/27 1 (Nd4)} Ne5+ {0.00/21 1 (Kxb3)} 81. Kxg7 {2.25/22 1} Nxd3 { 0.00/25 0} 82. g5 {1.98/26 1 (Nd4)} Ne6+ {0.00/20 1 (hxg5)} 83. Kf6 {2.91/25 1} Nxg5 {1.69/23 0} 84. a6 {3.25/26 0} Ne4+ {0.00/23 0} 85. Kg7 {2.92/31 1 (Kg6)} Nec5 {0.00/21 0 (Sdc5)} 86. a7 {3.31/31 1 (Nxc5)} Ne6+ {2.42/20 1} 87. Kxh6 { 3.41/35 0} Nc7 {2.32/23 0} 88. Kg7 {3.41/33 0} Kxb3 {1.90/23 0} 89. h6 { 3.41/35 0} Nb4 {1.81/25 0 (Se5)} 90. h7 {3.31/35 1} Nc6 {1.55/26 0} 91. a8=Q { 3.32/36 0 (h8Q)} Nxa8 {1.45/20 1} 92. h8=Q {3.32/40 0} Nc7 {1.36/22 0} 93. Qh3+ {3.41/37 2 (Qh7)} Kb4 {1.26/25 1} 94. Qd7 {3.41/40 0} Nd4 {1.16/26 0} 95. Kg6 { 3.50/33 0 (Qe7+)} Ndb5 {0.59/22 1} 96. Qc6 {3.90/35 0 (Qe7+)} d4 {0.00/26 0 (Ka3)} 97. Kf6 {4.00/38 1 (Qe4)} d3 {0.00/30 0 (Ka5)} 98. Ke5 {4.00/37 1 (Qe4+) } d2 {0.00/39 0 (Kb3)} 99. Qc2 {4.00/40 1 (Qe4+)} d1=Q {0.00/42 0 (Sc3)} 100. Qxd1 {4.20/33 0} Kc5 {0.00/0 0} 101. Qf3 {4.49/33 0 SolistaChess,Stockfish 011218 64 offers a draw} Kb6 {0.00/0 0} 102. Qg2 {4.66/33 0} Na6 {0.00/1 0 (Kc5)} 103. Qg1+ {4.86/30 1} Kb7 {0.00/0 0} 104. Qh1+ {4.66/36 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 0 } 105. Qg1+ {4.66/36 0} Kb7 {0.00/0 0} 106. Qg2+ {4.66/37 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 0} 107. Qf2+ {4.66/38 0} Kc6 {0.00/0 0 (Kb7)} 108. Qf3+ {4.66/38 0} Kc5 {0.00/0 0 (Kc7)} 109. Qd5+ {4.66/36 0} Kb6 {0.00/1 0} 110. Qg2 {4.66/38 0} Nac7 {0.00/0 0 (Sa7)} 111. Qe4 {4.66/41 0} Na6 {0.00/1 0 (Kc5)} 112. Qb1 {4.66/38 1} Nac7 { 0.00/0 0 (Kc6)} 113. Qe4 {4.66/40 0} Na6 {0.00/1 0 (Kc5)} 114. Qb1 {4.66/41 1} Nac7 {0.00/0 0 (Kc6)} 115. Qh1 {4.66/40 1} Na6 {0.00/1 0} 116. Qh6+ {4.66/40 0} Kb7 {0.00/1 0} 117. Kd5 {4.66/40 0} Na7 {0.00/1 0} 118. Qh7+ {4.66/38 0} Kb6 { 0.00/1 0} 119. Qb1+ {4.66/39 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 120. Qa1 {4.66/40 0} Kb6 { 0.00/0 0 (Kb7)} 121. Qb1+ {4.66/38 2} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 122. Qa1 {4.66/36 0} Kb6 { 0.00/0 0 (Kb7)} 123. Qd4+ {4.66/36 0} Kb7 {0.00/1 0} 124. Qb2+ {4.66/35 1} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 125. Qe5+ {4.66/37 0} Kb7 {0.00/0 0 (Kb6)} 126. Qb2+ {4.66/35 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 127. Kc4 {4.66/34 1} Nb8 {0.00/0 0} 128. Qg7+ {4.66/35 0} Kb6 { 0.00/1 0} 129. Qh7 {4.66/32 0} Nc8 {0.00/0 0 (Sa6)} 130. Kd5 {4.66/33 0} Na7 { 0.00/1 0} 131. Qb1+ {4.66/33 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 132. Qc1+ {4.66/29 0} Kb7 { 0.00/0 0} 133. Qa1 {4.66/30 0} Nc8 {0.00/0 0 (Kb6)} 134. Qb1+ {4.66/24 0} Kc7 { 0.00/1 0} 135. Qe4 {4.66/25 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 0} 136. Qd4+ {4.66/27 0} Kb7 { 0.00/0 0} 137. Qb2+ {4.57/23 0} Kc7 {0.00/1 0} 138. Qe5+ {4.66/21 0} Kb7 { 0.00/1 0} 139. Qa1 {4.66/21 0} Kc7 {0.00/0 0 (Kb6)} 140. Qg7+ {4.05/18 0} Kb6 { 0.00/1 0} 141. Qf6+ {3.79/18 0} Kb7 {0.00/0 0 (Kc7)} 142. Qf4 {2.82/16 1} Na7 { 0.00/1 0} 143. Qf7+ {3.86/17 0} Kb6 {0.00/1 0} 144. Kc4 {4.66/22 0} Na6 { 0.00/0 0} 145. Qg6+ {0.00/32 0} Kb7 {0.00/1 0} 146. Qd6 {0.00/41 0} Nc7 { 0.00/0 0 (Sb8)} 147. Qd7 {0.00/31 0} Kb6 {0.00/1 0} 148. Qd4+ {0.00/64 0} Kb7 { 0.00/1 0} 149. Qa1 {0.00/72 0} Kb6 {0.00/0 2 (Sc8)} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[d]8/2n5/8/1n2K3/1k6/8/2Qp4/8 b - - 0 1

Here I thought that Black is lost, and wondered why Black moved now 99...d1Q. :shock:
Are there any others here who would have belived that black is lost?

Few moves later:

[d]1nn5/2k5/8/3K4/8/8/8/1Q6 w - - 0 1

Funny Constellation! :roll:
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Re: Queen vs 2 Knights

Post by Dann Corbit »

The bizarre magic of positions like these comes from 6 or less men on the board.
In fact, even when there are more than 6, an engine that is behind may try to reduce the board to 6 men so that a known draw position can be forced.
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Re: Queen vs 2 Knights

Post by Colin-G »

In my database of 33000 engine-engine games there were only 5 with a Queen vs 2 Knights position occurring.
2 of these were won by the side with the Queen. 2 were draws because the Queen was taken by a Knight on the next move in one game and was taken following a check forking King and Queen in the other.
The other game between List512 and Ivanhoe would have been a draw if I had had the KNNKQ tablebase files when the game was played in 2014. Although I had most of the common 5 man tablebases at the time, I did not aquire those ones until 2016.
In the position shown, List (which can use tablebases) played Nhg4 and lost. The only drawing move was Ne4+ according to tablebases.
[d]8/8/4K2N/8/8/8/3k1N2/q7 w - -
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Re: Queen vs 2 Knights

Post by duncan »

Eduard wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:39 am

Here I thought that Black is lost, and wondered why Black moved now 99...d1Q. :shock:
Are there any others here who would have belived that black is lost?
What is black with 2 knights meant to do to draw?
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Re: Queen vs 2 Knights

Post by Colin-G »

duncan wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:10 pm
Eduard wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:39 am

Here I thought that Black is lost, and wondered why Black moved now 99...d1Q. :shock:
Are there any others here who would have belived that black is lost?
What is black with 2 knights meant to do to draw?
According to the online 6 man tablebase site, Black has 6 other moves apart from d1=Q for a theoretical draw at move 99.

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