Leela is doing well in TCEC season 14, +90 elo above SF

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Re: Leela is doing well in TCEC season 14, +90 elo above SF

Post by Guenther » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:19 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:53 pm
Damir wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:26 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:25 pm
Damir wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:20 pm
the games please...
http://legacy-tcec.chessdom.com/archive ... di=3&ga=59

Click season 14, Division 3.
I want to see the games where Leela is ahead of Stockfish… Stockfish is not playing in the current division where Leela is playing. :) :)
Well, you dont need to play head to head for elo comparision. Theoretically, it is possible that someone may have higher than M. Carlsen's elo without facing him 1v1.
Yeah, it is so reliable it places SF from 2017 higher than latest SF 10...
Actually a weather forecast for April 1st 2038 would be more sound.

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Re: Leela is doing well in TCEC season 14, +90 elo above SF

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:07 pm

Guenther wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:19 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:53 pm
Damir wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:26 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:25 pm
Damir wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:20 pm
the games please...
http://legacy-tcec.chessdom.com/archive ... di=3&ga=59

Click season 14, Division 3.
I want to see the games where Leela is ahead of Stockfish… Stockfish is not playing in the current division where Leela is playing. :) :)
Well, you dont need to play head to head for elo comparision. Theoretically, it is possible that someone may have higher than M. Carlsen's elo without facing him 1v1.
Yeah, it is so reliable it places SF from 2017 higher than latest SF 10...
Actually a weather forecast for April 1st 2038 would be more sound.
In 2017 season 12, SF beat Houdini clearly with 20 win 2 loss, but in 2018 season 13, there was a critical stage where all big three were racing for super final spot until last minute, and also SF did not beat Komodo like he did vs Houdini. In term of elo or performance rating, SF lose a lot of elo in 2018.

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Re: Leela is doing well in TCEC season 14, +90 elo above SF

Post by Guenther » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:10 pm

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:07 pm
Guenther wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:19 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:53 pm
Damir wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:26 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:25 pm
Damir wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:20 pm
the games please...
http://legacy-tcec.chessdom.com/archive ... di=3&ga=59

Click season 14, Division 3.
I want to see the games where Leela is ahead of Stockfish… Stockfish is not playing in the current division where Leela is playing. :) :)
Well, you dont need to play head to head for elo comparision. Theoretically, it is possible that someone may have higher than M. Carlsen's elo without facing him 1v1.
Yeah, it is so reliable it places SF from 2017 higher than latest SF 10...
Actually a weather forecast for April 1st 2038 would be more sound.
In 2017 season 12, SF beat Houdini clearly with 20 win 2 loss, but in 2018 season 13, there was a critical stage where all big three were in critical race for super final spot until last minute, and also SF did not beat Komodo like he did vs Houdini. In term of elo or performance rating, SF lose a lot of elo in 2018.
And what? We all know latest SF is much stronger than SF from 2017, error bars - error bars - why do we need to talk about this at all ad nauseam??

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Re: Leela is doing well in TCEC season 14, +90 elo above SF

Post by Uri Blass » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:29 pm

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:10 pm
https://tcecbayeselo.blogspot.com/2018/ ... -58_5.html

According to Aloril's blogspot, Leela's TCEC elo is 3580, highest elo in the list.

Dont believe it?? Ask Alori, not me! :D :P
I think that we need to see how stockfish does against the same opponents in order to claim that Leela performs better than SF.

Maybe stockfish is expected to do better than 80% against these opponents.

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