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GURL3 released

Post by Guenther » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:30 am

FWIW I have released GURL3 today at rwbc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... q0aU39MVuM

GURL was the 'Grand unified rating list' invented by Vincent Lejeune. (a forum search will reveal more)
Around two years ago I released GURL2 and based on this, I added now around 1.3 Mio games again.
The total number is now 7.7 Mio games. The calculation was done by ordo with 10 simuls.

For those with slow internet connection there is a download with the csv file and an ods file with
the tables, which were imported into googlesheets, available again. (from the main rwbc site)

There are tables with all entries, but players with games <100 and error >59.9 are marked with grey background.
Finally there are tables already filtered with the above criteria and filtered for single core too.

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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Guenther » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:13 pm

Guenther wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:30 am
FWIW I have released GURL3 today at rwbc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... q0aU39MVuM

...

Corrected 8 hidden double entries and recalculated and updated everything.
Google sheets link and download link etc at rwbc remained ofc the same.

(slight change: error above 50 instead of 60 marked now)

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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Vinvin » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:21 pm

Many thanks for this update, Guenther !! :D

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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Vinvin » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:34 am

In me sense, from the SSDF list, you could add games on "486/50-66 MHz" and "486/33 MHz" with same CPU for both opponents.
This will add some interesting oldies.

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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Vinvin » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:19 pm

My next goal is to merge 2 rating lists : SSDF and Aktivschach Elo Liste.
SSDF List : http://ssdf.bosjo.net/long.txt
Aktiv List : https://www.schachcomputer.info/html/ak ... liste.html

All games from the Aktiv Liste are not so easy to find.
May be, it's even possible to get games from the "private_elo_liste" ( https://www.schachcomputer.info/html/pr ... liste.html ) ?

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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Guenther » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:35 pm

Vinvin wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:21 pm
Many thanks for this update, Guenther !! :D
FWIW
Computerchess Historical Rankings by GURL3 Ratings
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... EKkP1CGxlc

Improved the graph (was done already in 12/2018 but a bit different) with GURL3 data and better formatting - ofc still unfinished,
will add a few more programs and data points later...
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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Vinvin » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:23 am

Guenther wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:35 pm
Vinvin wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:21 pm
Many thanks for this update, Guenther !! :D
FWIW
Computerchess Historical Rankings by GURL3 Ratings
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... EKkP1CGxlc

Improved the graph (was done already in 12/2018 but a bit different) with GURL3 data and better formatting - ofc still unfinished,
will add a few more programs and data points later...
Nice graph ! I didn't see it before.

Another very interesting graph would be : "The strongest engine month by month from 1984 to 2019". Or evolution of the "versions of top engines by family" (ChessTiger, ChessMaster, Fritz, Genius, HIARCS, Junior, MChess Pro, Rebel, Rybka, Shredder, ...).
From 1984 to 2003, the SSDF list is a good reference : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_C ... nd_leaders
From 2004 to 2019, the ratings from CEGT and CCRL is good to get accurate ratings on an AMD 2.2 GHz (this CPU was released in the end of 2003).
Based in this numbers, may be we can extrapolate the hardware improvement from 2004 to 2019 on a second curve. A nice showing would be a video like that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2DHpW79w0Y :D

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Re: GURL3 released

Post by Vinvin » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:08 pm

Vinvin wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:23 am
Guenther wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:35 pm
Vinvin wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:21 pm
Many thanks for this update, Guenther !! :D
FWIW
Computerchess Historical Rankings by GURL3 Ratings
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... EKkP1CGxlc

Improved the graph (was done already in 12/2018 but a bit different) with GURL3 data and better formatting - ofc still unfinished,
will add a few more programs and data points later...
Nice graph ! I didn't see it before.

Another very interesting graph would be : "The strongest engine month by month from 1984 to 2019". Or evolution of the "versions of top engines by family" (ChessTiger, ChessMaster, Fritz, Genius, HIARCS, Junior, MChess Pro, Rebel, Rybka, Shredder, ...).
From 1984 to 2003, the SSDF list is a good reference : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_C ... nd_leaders
From 2004 to 2019, the ratings from CEGT and CCRL is good to get accurate ratings on an AMD 2.2 GHz (this CPU was released in the end of 2003).
Based in this numbers, may be we can extrapolate the hardware improvement from 2004 to 2019 on a second curve. A nice showing would be a video like that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2DHpW79w0Y :D
I'm trying to give ratings and release dates for all this families on the SSDF list : ChessTiger, ChessMaster, Fritz, Genius, HIARCS, Junior, MChess, Rebel, Rybka, Shredder. + Zappa ? + Naum ?
Let's focus on 1 core used.
The release date for the CPUs used on the SSDF list :

Code: Select all

386/25-33 - 25 MHz introduced April 4, 1988
486/33 MHz - introduced May 7, 1990
486/50 MHz - introduced June 24, 1991
Pentium 90 MHz - Introduced March 7, 1994   
P200 MHz MMX - introduced January 8, 1997
K6-2 450 MHz - First release: November 16, 1998
Athlon 1.2 GHz - October 2000
Note : in an engine family, a rating progress can be cause by : 1) a new version is released 2) a new CPU is available (let's focus on CPUs used by the SSDF).
This post is interesting to find top engines : viewtopic.php?p=701908#p701908

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