End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Jouni » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:43 pm

Heh heh. Obviously my tongue-in-cheek post has suddenly come reality! Lc0 is leading TCEC superfinal even with some 5-7 clear blunders :o :shock: .
I wonder if these tactical blunders can't be prevented with doing single CPU AB search by any decent engine?
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:20 am

Jouni wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:43 pm
Heh heh. Obviously my tongue-in-cheek post has suddenly come reality! Lc0 is leading TCEC superfinal even with some 5-7 clear blunders :o :shock: .
I wonder if these tactical blunders can't be prevented with doing single CPU AB search by any decent engine?
It is a probable result. Latest tests in Leela discord estimated that SF vs Leela were within 20 elo, with SF in favour. It is now very likely that Leela scale better with specific cput setting for Sufi.
So much tests has been done in Leela discord to get optimized setting for this Final although SF developers dont even test contempt/without contempt against Leela.

Looks like those optimizations helps for another +10 to +20 elo in VLTC setting.

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by jp » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:43 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:20 am
So much tests has been done in Leela discord to get optimized setting for this Final although SF developers dont even test contempt/without contempt against Leela.
That on its own is stretching the meaning of "zero". (But it's already non-zero.)
Should just call it Lc1.

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by CMCanavessi » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:27 pm

Alexander Schmidt wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 pm
CMCanavessi wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Leela about to go +3, SF fans already using excuses like "hardware disadvantage" or "no book"... gimme a break.
The same guys who made fun about the argument, Lc0 would be better without book?
You don't think that lc0 plays better from the start position than from a 8-16-move predefined opening? You should check current bonus matches at TCEC...
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:58 pm

End of an era confirmed now!! 19-15 in favor of Leela (no opening book)
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Leo » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:52 pm

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:58 pm
End of an era confirmed now!! 19-15 in favor of Leela (no opening book)
Now it can play Brainfish. Its time to remove the Stockfish handicap. Lco has a learning file so why not let sf have a learning file.
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by CMCanavessi » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:24 pm

Lol "learning file"
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by sovaz1997 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:49 pm

Leo wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:52 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:58 pm
End of an era confirmed now!! 19-15 in favor of Leela (no opening book)
Now it can play Brainfish. Its time to remove the Stockfish handicap. Lco has a learning file so why not let sf have a learning file.
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Alexander Schmidt » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:53 pm

This forum became really funny lately :D

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