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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by CMCanavessi » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:27 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:52 am
Houdini is the deserving champion.
No, Leela is. :mrgreen:
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:31 am

1NN engines vs 15 AB engines and 1 NN engine won without a single loss.( SF, K,H had about 2-3 losses)

End of an Era ,sure.

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by M ANSARI » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:01 am

Holy Crap! What a remarkable game by Lc0. It really looked like Houdini had a very dangerous initiative on the Queenside with 2 incredibly scary looking passed pawns, but then all of a sudden Lc0 disregards everything and does a rook lift and attacks on the Kingside!!! Looked like suicide, but it got an incredibly strong initiative that totally busted Houdini. One of the best games I have seen 2 engines play! You really had absolutely no idea who was going to win or what the hell was going on. It was a positional masterpiece where Lc0 patiently set its forces to defend and at the same time when it saw a tiny window of opportunity to pull the initiative it burnt its bridges and went for it.

I think AI will really be the new big thing just like the internet was a few years ago. From self driving cars, to finding new medicines to making Nuclear Fusion finally feasible. We are seeing the beginning of a big change in how the world works and NN hardware is going to explode in strength as more money is pushed into it. Lc0 is just a tiny indicator of that big change!

Here is the game to those who missed it

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 c6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. Bb2 Nf6 12. bxc4 b4 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Nd2 Qc7 16. Bc2 h6 17. Re1 Rfe8 18. h3 e5 19. d5 Nb6 20. e4 Rec8 21. Rc1 Nfd7 22. Re3 a4 23. Rg3 g6 24. Qh5 Kh7 25. Qf3 f6 26. h4 Qd6 27. h5 g5 28. Qf5+ Kh8 29. f4 a3 30. Ba1 Qe7 31. fxe5 Nxe5 32. Bb3 Nbd7 33. Nf3 Qh7 34. Qh3 Rf8 35. Nxe5 Nxe5 36. Re3 Ba6 37. Qg3 Rae8 38. Bd4 Qg7 39. Bc5 Rb8 40. Bd6 Rfd8 41. Bxb8 Rxb8 42. Ree1 Qd7 43. Red1 Kg7 44. c5 Bb5 45. Qe3 Ng4 46. Qh3 Ra8 47. Re1 Rf8 48. Bd1 Ne5 49. Qxd7+ Bxd7 50. Re3 Rc8 51. c6 Be8 52. Rb1 Nc4 53. Rd3 Nb2 54. Rb3 a2 55. R3xb2 axb1=B 56. Rxb1 b3 57. Bg4 Rxc6 58. dxc6 Bxc6 59. Rxb3 Kf7 60. Bf5 Ke7 61. Kf2 Be8 1-0

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by MikeB » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:23 am

M ANSARI wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:01 am
Holy Crap! What a remarkable game by Lc0. It really looked like Houdini had a very dangerous initiative on the Queenside with 2 incredibly scary looking passed pawns, but then all of a sudden Lc0 disregards everything and does a rook lift and attacks on the Kingside!!! Looked like suicide, but it got an incredibly strong initiative that totally busted Houdini. One of the best games I have seen by 2 engines! You really had absolutely no idea who was going to win or what the hell was going on. It was a positional masterpiece where Lc0 patiently set its forces to defend and at the same time when it saw a tiny window of opportunity to pull the initiative it burnt its bridges and went for it.

I think AI will really be the new big thing just like the internet was a few years ago. From self driving cars, to finding new medicines to making Fusion finally happen. We are seeing the beginning of a big change in how the world works and NN hardware is going to explode in strength as more money is pushed into it. Lc0 is just a tiny indicator of that big change!

Here is the game to those who missed it

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 c6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. Bb2 Nf6 12. bxc4 b4 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Nd2 Qc7 16. Bc2 h6 17. Re1 Rfe8 18. h3 e5 19. d5 Nb6 20. e4 Rec8 21. Rc1 Nfd7 22. Re3 a4 23. Rg3 g6 24. Qh5 Kh7 25. Qf3 f6 26. h4 Qd6 27. h5 g5 28. Qf5+ Kh8 29. f4 a3 30. Ba1 Qe7 31. fxe5 Nxe5 32. Bb3 Nbd7 33. Nf3 Qh7 34. Qh3 Rf8 35. Nxe5 Nxe5 36. Re3 Ba6 37. Qg3 Rae8 38. Bd4 Qg7 39. Bc5 Rb8 40. Bd6 Rfd8 41. Bxb8 Rxb8 42. Ree1 Qd7 43. Red1 Kg7 44. c5 Bb5 45. Qe3 Ng4 46. Qh3 Ra8 47. Re1 Rf8 48. Bd1 Ne5 49. Qxd7+ Bxd7 50. Re3 Rc8 51. c6 Be8 52. Rb1 Nc4 53. Rd3 Nb2 54. Rb3 a2 55. R3xb2 axb1=B 56. Rxb1 b3 57. Bg4 Rxc6 58. dxc6 Bxc6 59. Rxb3 Kf7 60. Bf5 Ke7 61. Kf2 Be8 1-0
+1 pretty impressive...

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by zullil » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:26 am

M ANSARI wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:01 am
Holy Crap! What a remarkable game by Lc0. It really looked like Houdini had a very dangerous initiative on the Queenside with 2 incredibly scary looking passed pawns, but then all of a sudden Lc0 disregards everything and does a rook lift and attacks on the Kingside!!! Looked like suicide, but it got an incredibly strong initiative that totally busted Houdini. One of the best games I have seen 2 engines play! You really had absolutely no idea who was going to win or what the hell was going on. It was a positional masterpiece where Lc0 patiently set its forces to defend and at the same time when it saw a tiny window of opportunity to pull the initiative it burnt its bridges and went for it.

I think AI will really be the new big thing just like the internet was a few years ago. From self driving cars, to finding new medicines to making Nuclear Fusion finally feasible. We are seeing the beginning of a big change in how the world works and NN hardware is going to explode in strength as more money is pushed into it. Lc0 is just a tiny indicator of that big change!

Here is the game to those who missed it


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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by AdminX » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:38 am

Wow, what a position. LC0-Stockfish https://tcec.chessdom.com/live.html
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by karger » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:10 pm

Thanks for sharing that beautiful game. Lc0 beat SF like it was a beginner!

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Leo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:25 pm

Why are people saying Houdini is the Champion when it is not in the Superfinal?
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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Carlos777 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:56 am

Leo wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:25 pm
Why are people saying Houdini is the Champion when it is not in the Superfinal?
Not sure why, I only know that LCZero beat Houdini in the TCEC CUP final (KO format). My question is why LCZero is playing the superfinal, if Komodo was second in Premier Division? It should be Stockfish vs Komodo

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Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by ernest » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:22 am

Carlos777 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:56 am
Leo wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:25 pm
Why are people saying Houdini is the Champion when it is not in the Superfinal?
...My question is why LCZero is playing the superfinal, if Komodo was second in Premier Division? It should be Stockfish vs Komodo
Because the games against Komodo MCTS were cancelled at the end (according to TCEC rules, since MCTS crashed 3 times), and Lc0 benefited from that.

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