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Re: TCEC 14 final: Lc0 just lost 3 games with tactical..

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:56 pm
by M ANSARI
I think getting opening books that give a 0.00 for each side or super neutral books also work against SF. In TCEC the only time SF seemed to do well is when it came out of the opening with a big advantage where deep forced tactics and not positional play mattered.

Re: TCEC 14 final: Lc0 just lost 3 games with tactical..

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:48 pm
by Leo
M ANSARI wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:56 pm
I think getting opening books that give a 0.00 for each side or super neutral books also work against SF. In TCEC the only time SF seemed to do well is when it came out of the opening with a big advantage where deep forced tactics and not positional play mattered.
Nice observation. Does anyone know how many Megabytes LCZ is to download?

Re: TCEC 14 final: Lc0 just lost 3 games with tactical..

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:52 am
by jp
Leo wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:07 pm
supersharp77 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:22 am
Leo wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:40 pm
I see. I have an interest in seeing SF play LZ with a powerful book.
With Stockfish playing LC0 without an opening book the result is 100% meaningless..."Apples & Oranges".. :wink:
I pretty much agree. Its a huge handicap for SF.
What DeepMind did with A0 was much worse than these Lc0 games. They just let SF go into the same bad openings over and over again.