Re: can stockfish with book beat leela without book?
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:58 am
The top contenders in such competitions consist of narrow books targeted at stockfish and filled with killer lines. I wouldn't say that a good wider and useful book is anywhere near 100 elo.
Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:32 amA good book is worth about 100 Elo
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-23
SCCT XXIII's Champion: Attacker - Congrats to Adrian Costinescu!Difference of 111 Elo (give or take a little).
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# PLAYER : RATING POINTS GAMES (%) 1 Attacker Pro 3 : 3562.9 866.5 1460 59.3% ... 92 No Book : 3451.3 281.0 640 43.9%
Now, SF recently won TCEC so it is likely a little stronger on equal ground.
Hence with a book, given a long tournament, winning is likely.
But consider all the unstated variables...
LC0 Elo seems to grow faster than SF Elo.
Shall we give LC0 four of these 2080 TI cards?
https://www.segmentblue.com/best-graphi ... tx-2080-ti
Or how about a whole rack of these:
https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/05/10 ... processor/
But maybe we give Stockfish the "128 cpu's x32 threads Cluster System" that gets 4,801,341,606 NPS using 4096 threads described here:
http://www.ipmanchess.yolasite.com/amd- ... -bench.php
Of course the real question we are all asking ourselves is, "What does the future hold for chess engines?"
We can wonder what direction things will take. Will a hybrid strategy be best?
But of course, nobody knows the answer to any of these questions.
Still, it's always fun to discuss how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
I think it's 13.