Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

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Dicaste
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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dicaste » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:28 am

Analysis with Thotfish

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New game Line
r1bq2rk/2pn3n/1p1p2pb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 240319 64 POPCNT:

1...g5 2.Nxg5 Bxg5 3.hxg5 Rxg5 4.g3 Rg4 5.Qf3 fxg3 6.fxg3 Ndf6 
  White is clearly better: +- (1.83)  Depth: 10/12   00:00:00
1...g5 2.Nxg5 Bxg5 3.hxg5 Rxg5 4.bxa5 Nhf6 5.axb6 Nxb6 6.Bc3 Bd7 
  White is clearly better: +- (1.67)  Depth: 11/17   00:00:00
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nfd4 Nf6 4.Nf5 Bxf5 5.exf5 Ng4 6.Kg1 
  White is clearly better: +/- (1.38)  Depth: 12/17   00:00:00
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.f3 Nf7 6.Nf5 Bd7 7.Nxh6 Nxh6 8.Bc3 
  White is clearly better: +/- (1.38)  Depth: 13/17   00:00:00  330kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.f3 Nf7 6.Be1 Bg5 7.Nf5 Bxf5 8.exf5 h4 9.Nc3 h3 10.gxh3 
  White is clearly better: +/- (1.47)  Depth: 14/20   00:00:00  557kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Nf5 Bxf5 7.exf5 h4 8.bxa5 bxa5 9.Nc3 
  White is better: +/- (1.22)  Depth: 15/23   00:00:00  799kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Nf5 Bxf5 7.exf5 h4 8.bxa5 bxa5 9.Nc3 h3 10.gxh3 Nh5 11.Qf2 Bh6 
  White is better: +/- (1.09)  Depth: 16/26   00:00:00  1158kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Nf5 Bxf5 7.exf5 h4 8.bxa5 bxa5 9.Nc3 h3 10.gxh3 Nh5 11.Qf2 Bh6 
  White is better: +/- (0.83)  Depth: 17/26   00:00:00  1859kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Qf2 Bg5 6.Nf5 Bxf5 7.exf5 h4 8.bxa5 bxa5 9.Na7 Nh5 10.Nc6 Qc8 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.62)  Depth: 18/33   00:00:00  4001kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Qf2 Bg5 6.Be1 Nh6 7.Nf5 Nxf5 8.exf5 h4 9.bxa5 bxa5 10.Nc3 Nh5 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.70)  Depth: 19/33   00:00:00  4847kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.bxa5 bxa5 6.Be1 Bg5 7.Rb3 Nd7 8.Nf5 Nc5 9.Rbb1 Bxf5 10.exf5 Bh4 11.Bf2 Bxf2 12.Qxf2 Nh6 13.f6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.53)  Depth: 20/34   00:00:01  7225kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.bxa5 bxa5 4.Nh4 Nf6 5.f3 Nf7 6.Be1 Bg5 7.Rb3 a4 8.Rc3 Nh6 9.c5 Nd7 10.cxd6 Bxh4 11.dxc7 Qg5 12.Rc6 Bxe1 13.Rxe1 Nf6 14.Qf2 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.38)  Depth: 21/34   00:00:01  12088kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Be1 Ng4 7.fxg4 Qxh4 8.Nxc7 Rb8 9.Ne6 axb4 10.Rxb4 Qxg4 11.Bd1 Qg6 12.Bf3 Bxe6 13.dxe6 Ng5 14.e7 Rg8 15.Qe2 Nxf3 16.Bxg3 Nd4 
  White is better: +/- (0.71)  Depth: 22/38   00:00:03  26466kN
1...g5 2.Nxg5 Bxg5 3.hxg5 Rxg5 4.Qe1 h4 5.Ke2 Ndf6 6.Qh1 Rh5 7.f3 Ng5 8.bxa5 bxa5 9.Kd1 h3 10.Kc1 Bd7 11.Kb2 h2 12.a4 Kg7 13.Bb3 
  White has an edge: = (0.28)  Depth: 23/43   00:00:03  33330kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Qf2 Nh6 7.Bd1 Rg7 8.bxa5 Rxa5 9.a4 Nd7 10.Nf5 Nxf5 11.exf5 Nc5 12.Bc2 Ra8 13.a5 
  The position is equal: = (0.20)  Depth: 24/37   00:00:04  42155kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Qf2 Nh6 7.Bd1 Rg7 8.bxa5 Rxa5 9.a4 Nd7 10.Nf5 Nxf5 11.exf5 Nc5 12.Bc2 Ra8 13.a5 
  White has an edge: = (0.29 --)  Depth: 25/39   00:00:06  59456kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Qf2 Nh6 7.Bd1 Rg7 8.bxa5 Rxa5 9.a4 Nd7 10.Nf5 Nxf5 11.exf5 Nc5 12.Bc2 Ra8 13.a5 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.38 --)  Depth: 25/39   00:00:06  61896kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Qf2 Nh6 7.Bd1 Rg7 8.bxa5 Rxa5 9.a4 Nd7 10.Nf5 Nxf5 11.exf5 Nc5 12.Bc2 Ra8 13.a5 
  White has an edge: = (0.29 ++)  Depth: 25/39   00:00:07  69473kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Qf2 Nh6 7.Bd1 Rg7 8.bxa5 Rxa5 9.a4 Nd7 10.Nf5 Nxf5 11.exf5 Nc5 12.Bc2 Ra8 13.a5 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.53 --)  Depth: 25/41   00:00:07  76729kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nh4 Nf6 4.f3 Nf7 5.Be1 Bg5 6.Qf2 Nh6 7.Bd1 Rg7 8.bxa5 Rxa5 9.a4 Nd7 10.Nf5 Nxf5 11.exf5 Nc5 12.Bc2 Ra8 13.a5 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.31 ++)  Depth: 25/41   00:00:08  82479kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Kd2 Qe7 10.a4 Rag8 11.Kc1 Bc8 12.Bxc5 bxc5 13.Kb2 Bd7 14.Rag1 h3 15.gxh3 
  White has an edge: = (0.25)  Depth: 25/41   00:00:08  86812kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Kd2 Qe7 10.a4 Rag8 11.Kc1 Bc8 12.Bxc5 bxc5 13.Kb2 Bd7 14.Rag1 h3 15.gxh3 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.34 --)  Depth: 26/35   00:00:08  89282kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Kd2 Qe7 10.a4 Rag8 11.Kc1 Bc8 12.Bxc5 bxc5 13.Kb2 Bd7 14.Rag1 h3 15.gxh3 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.44 --)  Depth: 26/35   00:00:09  90444kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Bxc5 bxc5 10.Kd3 Qe7 11.Nc3 Qg5 12.Ba4 Rg8 13.Bb5 Bc8 14.Ne2 h3 15.Nxg3 fxg3 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.54)  Depth: 26/35   00:00:09  92886kN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Bxc5 bxc5 10.Kd3 Qe7 11.Nc3 Qg5 12.Ba4 Rg8 13.Bb5 Bc8 14.Ne2 h3 15.Nxg3 fxg3 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.63 --)  Depth: 27/44   00:00:10  105MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Bxc5 bxc5 10.Kd3 Kg7 11.Nc3 Qg5 12.Ba4 Bc8 13.Bc6 Rb8 14.Bb5 h3 15.gxh3 Bxh3 16.Ne2 Rg2 17.Qe1 Qh5 18.Qf1 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.62)  Depth: 27/44   00:00:11  112MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Bxc5 bxc5 10.Kd3 Kg7 11.Nc3 Qg5 12.Ba4 Bc8 13.Bc6 Rb8 14.Bb5 h3 15.gxh3 Bxh3 16.Ne2 Rg2 17.Qe1 Qh5 18.Qf1 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.53 ++)  Depth: 28/43   00:00:15  158MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Bxc5 bxc5 10.Kd3 Kg7 11.Nc3 Qg5 12.Ba4 Bc8 13.Bc6 Rb8 14.Bb5 h3 15.gxh3 Bxh3 16.Ne2 Rg2 17.Qe1 Qh5 18.Qf1 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.43 ++)  Depth: 28/43   00:00:16  166MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Rxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Rg3 6.Ke2 Ba6 7.Rh1 axb4 8.Bxb4 Nc5 9.Bxc5 bxc5 10.Kd3 Kg7 11.Nc3 Qg5 12.Ba4 Bc8 13.Bc6 Rb8 14.Bb5 h3 15.gxh3 Bxh3 16.Ne2 Rg2 17.Qe1 Qh5 18.Qf1 
  White has an edge: = (0.29 ++)  Depth: 28/43   00:00:17  178MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Qe1 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Rb3 Ne8 7.Bc3 Nxf3 8.gxf3 h4 9.Ke2 Rg2 10.c5 h3 11.Rbb1 Bg7 12.a4 dxc5 13.Bd3 Qh4 14.a5 h2 
  White has an edge: = (0.30)  Depth: 28/46   00:00:19  198MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Qe1 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Rb3 Ne8 7.Bc3 Nxf3 8.gxf3 h4 9.Ke2 Rg2 10.c5 h3 11.Rbb1 Bg7 12.a4 dxc5 13.Bd3 Qh4 14.a5 h2 
  The position is equal: = (0.20 ++)  Depth: 29/34   00:00:21  223MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Qe1 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Rb3 Ne8 7.Bc3 Nxf3 8.gxf3 h4 9.Ke2 Rg2 10.c5 h3 11.Rbb1 Bg7 12.a4 dxc5 13.Bd3 Qh4 14.a5 h2 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.39 --)  Depth: 29/39   00:00:22  233MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Qe1 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Rb3 Ne8 7.Bc3 Nxf3 8.gxf3 h4 9.Ke2 Rg2 10.c5 h3 11.Rbb1 Bg7 12.a4 dxc5 13.Bd3 Qh4 14.a5 h2 
  White has an edge: = (0.25 ++)  Depth: 29/47   00:00:25  258MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Qe1 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Rb3 Ne8 7.Bc3 Nxf3 8.gxf3 h4 9.Ke2 Rg2 10.c5 h3 11.Rbb1 Bg7 12.a4 dxc5 13.Bd3 Qh4 14.a5 h2 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.53 --)  Depth: 29/47   00:00:26  269MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Qe1 Nf6 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Rb3 Ne8 7.Bc3 Nxf3 8.gxf3 h4 9.Ke2 Rg2 10.c5 h3 11.Rbb1 Bg7 12.a4 dxc5 13.Bd3 Qh4 14.a5 h2 
  White is better: +/- (0.80 --)  Depth: 29/47   00:00:30  320MN
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Qxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Ba6 6.Ke2 axb4 7.Bxb4 Qd8 8.a4 Rg3 9.Rh1 Nc5 10.Kd2 Nb7 11.Kc1 Bg5 12.Kb2 Bf6 13.Rh2 Rg7 14.Be1 Qe7 15.Qf1 Rag8 16.Rb1 Rb8 17.Ka1 Nc5 18.Bf2 Ra8 19.Kb2 
  White is better: +/- (0.74)  Depth: 29/49   00:00:43  454MN
1...Rg7 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.64 ++)  Depth: 30/40   00:00:56  591MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.55 ++)  Depth: 30/40   00:01:00  634MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.41 ++)  Depth: 30/40   00:01:02  653MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 Ndf6 3.Bc3 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Kd2 Nf7 6.Rg1 Bg4 7.bxa5 bxa5 8.Kc1 Ra6 9.Rb1 c6 10.dxc6 Rxc6 11.Kb2 Qa8 12.Ka2 Kg8 13.Bd3 Ng5 14.Rgd1 Nf7 15.Kb2 Rb6 16.Bc2 Bd7 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.62)  Depth: 30/42   00:01:08  718MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 Ndf6 3.Bc3 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Kd2 Nf7 6.Rg1 Bg4 7.bxa5 bxa5 8.Kc1 Ra6 9.Rb1 c6 10.dxc6 Rxc6 11.Kb2 Qa8 12.Ka2 Kg8 13.Bd3 Ng5 14.Rgd1 Nf7 15.Kb2 Rb6 16.Bc2 Bd7 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.53 ++)  Depth: 31/49   00:01:18  822MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 Ndf6 3.Bc3 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Kd2 Nf7 6.Rg1 Bg4 7.bxa5 bxa5 8.Kc1 Ra6 9.Rb1 c6 10.dxc6 Rxc6 11.Kb2 Qa8 12.Ka2 Kg8 13.Bd3 Ng5 14.Rgd1 Nf7 15.Kb2 Rb6 16.Bc2 Bd7 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.44 ++)  Depth: 31/49   00:01:21  854MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 Ndf6 3.Bc3 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Kd2 Nf7 6.Rg1 Bg4 7.bxa5 bxa5 8.Kc1 Ra6 9.Rb1 c6 10.dxc6 Rxc6 11.Kb2 Qa8 12.Ka2 Kg8 13.Bd3 Ng5 14.Rgd1 Nf7 15.Kb2 Rb6 16.Bc2 Bd7 
  White has an edge: = (0.30 ++)  Depth: 31/49   00:01:26  897MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.Kd1 Nf6 5.Kc1 Bg4 6.Kb2 h4 7.Rh1 h3 8.Qe1 Nxf3 9.gxf3 Bd7 10.bxa5 Qb8 11.Qf1 Rg2 12.Rg1 Rxg1 13.Qxg1 Kh7 14.a6 Rxa6 15.Bc3 Nh5 16.Bd3 Nf6 17.Rb1 Ra8 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.54)  Depth: 31/49   00:01:28  927MN, tb=1
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.Kd1 Nf6 5.Kc1 Bg4 6.Kb2 h4 7.Rh1 h3 8.Qe1 Nxf3 9.gxf3 Bd7 10.bxa5 Qb8 11.Qf1 Rg2 12.Rg1 Rxg1 13.Qxg1 Kh7 14.a6 Rxa6 15.Bc3 Nh5 16.Bd3 Nf6 17.Rb1 Ra8 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.45 ++)  Depth: 32/47   00:01:43  1083MN, tb=6
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.Kd1 Nf6 5.Kc1 Bg4 6.Kb2 h4 7.Rh1 h3 8.Qe1 Nxf3 9.gxf3 Bd7 10.bxa5 Qb8 11.Qf1 Rg2 12.Rg1 Rxg1 13.Qxg1 Kh7 14.a6 Rxa6 15.Bc3 Nh5 16.Bd3 Nf6 17.Rb1 Ra8 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.64 --)  Depth: 32/49   00:01:44  1093MN, tb=6
1...Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.Kd1 Nf6 5.Kc1 Bg4 6.Kb2 h4 7.Rh1 h3 8.Qe1 Nxf3 9.gxf3 Bd7 10.bxa5 Qb8 11.Qf1 Rg2 12.Rg1 Rxg1 13.Qxg1 Kh7 14.a6 Rxa6 15.Bc3 Nh5 16.Bd3 Nf6 17.Rb1 Ra8 
  White is better: +/- (0.78 --)  Depth: 32/49   00:01:51  1168MN, tb=12
1...g5 2.hxg5 Nxg5 3.Nxg5 Qxg5 4.f3 h4 5.Qf2 Ba6 6.Ke2 axb4 7.Bxb4 Qd8 8.a4 Rg3 9.Rh1 Nc5 10.Kd1 Bg5 11.Kc1 Nb7 12.Kb2 Bf6 13.Rh2 Rg7 14.Be1 Qe7 15.Qf1 Rh7 16.Bf2 Rg7 17.Ka2 Rag8 18.Na7 Na5 19.Nc6 Nxc6 
  White is better: +/- (0.77)  Depth: 32/49   00:02:03  1281MN, tb=24
1...Ndf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.68 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:02:41  1679MN, tb=43
1...Ndf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.59 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:02:45  1722MN, tb=49
1...Ndf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.45 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:02:50  1776MN, tb=62
1...Ndf6 
  White has an edge: = (0.25 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:02:58  1870MN, tb=67
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Qc3 gxh4 6.Bxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxc7 Qxc7 8.Nxh4 Ng4 9.c5 Bg5 10.Nf3 Ba6+ 11.Kg1 dxc5 12.Ba4 c4 13.Bc6 Rc8 14.Rb4 Be7 15.Ra4 Qb6 16.Rxa6 Qxa6 17.Nxe5 Nxe5 18.Qxe5+ Bf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.47)  Depth: 33/51   00:03:08  1973MN, tb=73
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Qc3 gxh4 6.Bxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxc7 Qxc7 8.Nxh4 Ng4 9.c5 Bg5 10.Nf3 Ba6+ 11.Kg1 dxc5 12.Ba4 c4 13.Bc6 Rc8 14.Rb4 Be7 15.Ra4 Qb6 16.Rxa6 Qxa6 17.Nxe5 Nxe5 18.Qxe5+ Bf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.38 ++)  Depth: 34/45   00:03:14  2036MN, tb=107
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Qc3 gxh4 6.Bxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxc7 Qxc7 8.Nxh4 Ng4 9.c5 Bg5 10.Nf3 Ba6+ 11.Kg1 dxc5 12.Ba4 c4 13.Bc6 Rc8 14.Rb4 Be7 15.Ra4 Qb6 16.Rxa6 Qxa6 17.Nxe5 Nxe5 18.Qxe5+ Bf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.56 --)  Depth: 34/56   00:03:33  2233MN, tb=136
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Qc3 gxh4 6.Bxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxc7 Qxc7 8.Nxh4 Ng4 9.c5 Bg5 10.Nf3 Ba6+ 11.Kg1 dxc5 12.Ba4 c4 13.Bc6 Rc8 14.Rb4 Be7 15.Ra4 Qb6 16.Rxa6 Qxa6 17.Nxe5 Nxe5 18.Qxe5+ Bf6 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.42 ++)  Depth: 34/56   00:04:16  2655MN, tb=177
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Qc3 gxh4 6.Bxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxc7 Qxc7 8.Nxh4 Ng4 9.c5 Bg5 10.Nf3 Ba6+ 11.Kg1 dxc5 12.Ba4 c4 13.Bc6 Rc8 14.Rb4 Be7 15.Ra4 Qb6 16.Rxa6 Qxa6 17.Nxe5 Nxe5 18.Qxe5+ Bf6 
  White has an edge: = (0.23 ++)  Depth: 34/56   00:04:31  2799MN, tb=261
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Rb3 gxh4 6.Nxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxh4 Rxa5 8.Qxa5 Ng4 9.Nf3 Ng5 10.Nxg5 Bxg5 11.Bd1 Qd7 12.Rab1 Bd8 13.Qc3 Qh7 14.Qc2 Qg6 15.Bxg4 hxg4 16.Ke2 f3+ 17.gxf3 gxf3+ 18.Kd2 Bg5+ 19.Kc3 Ba6 20.Rb4 Kg7 21.Kb2 Rc8 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.42)  Depth: 34/58   00:04:57  3063MN, tb=307
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Rb3 gxh4 6.Nxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxh4 Rxa5 8.Qxa5 Ng4 9.Nf3 Ng5 10.Nxg5 Bxg5 11.Bd1 Qd7 12.Rab1 Bd8 13.Qc3 Qh7 14.Qc2 Qg6 15.Bxg4 hxg4 16.Ke2 f3+ 17.gxf3 gxf3+ 18.Kd2 Bg5+ 19.Kc3 Ba6 20.Rb4 Kg7 21.Kb2 Rc8 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.32 ++)  Depth: 35/53   00:05:25  3343MN, tb=389
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Rb3 gxh4 6.Nxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxh4 Rxa5 8.Qxa5 Ng4 9.Nf3 Ng5 10.Nxg5 Bxg5 11.Bd1 Qd7 12.Rab1 Bd8 13.Qc3 Qh7 14.Qc2 Qg6 15.Bxg4 hxg4 16.Ke2 f3+ 17.gxf3 gxf3+ 18.Kd2 Bg5+ 19.Kc3 Ba6 20.Rb4 Kg7 21.Kb2 Rc8 
  White has an edge: = (0.23 ++)  Depth: 35/53   00:05:29  3387MN, tb=409
1...Ndf6 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Qe1 g5 4.Bxa5 Rg7 5.Rb3 gxh4 6.Nxc7 Rxc7 7.Nxh4 Rxa5 8.Qxa5 Ng4 9.Nf3 Ng5 10.Nxg5 Bxg5 11.Bd1 Qd7 12.Rab1 Bd8 13.Qc3 Qh7 14.Qc2 Qg6 15.Bxg4 hxg4 16.Ke2 f3+ 17.gxf3 gxf3+ 18.Kd2 Bg5+ 19.Kc3 Ba6 20.Rb4 Kg7 21.Kb2 Rc8 
  The position is equal: = (0.09 ++)  Depth: 35/53   00:05:35  3451MN, tb=414
1...Ndf6 2.Qd3 g5 3.bxa5 bxa5 4.Nbd4 gxh4 5.Nc6 Qe8 6.Nxh4 Rg4 7.Nf3 Qg8 8.Ne7 Qg7 9.Nxc8 Rxc8 10.Nh2 Rh4 11.Nf3 Rg4 
  The position is equal: = (0.00)  Depth: 35/53   00:06:39  4108MN, tb=848

(,  26.03.2019)

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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:55 am

Dicaste wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:28 am
Analysis with Thotfish

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New game Line
r1bq2rk/2pn3n/1p1p2pb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 b - - 0 1
1...Ndf6 2.Qd3 g5 3.bxa5 bxa5 4.Nbd4 gxh4 5.Nc6 Qe8 6.Nxh4 Rg4 7.Nf3 Qg8 8.Ne7 Qg7 9.Nxc8 Rxc8 10.Nh2 Rh4 11.Nf3 Rg4 
  The position is equal: = (0.00)  Depth: 35/53   00:06:39  4108MN, tb=848

(,  26.03.2019)
After making the newly discovered {Thotfish} move Ndf6, the current (from source control) version of Stockfish says the following:

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Searching: r1bq2rk/2p4n/1p1p1npb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 w - - 0 1
infinite: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0

 1   +1.00   00:00    5276  Kg1
 2   +0.69   00:00   26772  Kg1 Bg4
 3   +0.59   00:00   49454  Kg1 Bg4 bxa5
 4   +0.69   00:00   70527  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4
 5   +0.77   00:00   94148  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4 Bxa5
 6   +0.99   00:00  124491  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg7 Bxa5
 7   +0.62   00:00  149841  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 Nxg5
 8   +0.53   00:00  191113  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 hxg5 Nxg5
 9   +0.48   00:00  222288  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 Bc3 g4 Nd2 g3
10   +0.41   00:00  258156  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Nxg5 Bxg5 f3
11   +0.16   00:00  517021  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Nxg5 Bxg5 f3 h4 c5 dxc5
12   +0.36   00:00  559912  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Nxg5 Bxg5 f3 h4 c5
13   +0.05   00:00  870411  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 c5 g4 Ng5 dxc5 d6 Qg8 Kg1 cxd6 Nxd6 Nxg5 hxg5
14   +0.00   00:00   1412K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Ng1 Ng4 Nf3
15   +0.03   00:00   2655K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Nxg5 Bxg5 f3 h4 c5 dxc5 Bc3 h3 Bxe5 hxg2+ Ke2
16   -0.38   00:00   4590K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 c5 g4 Ng5 dxc5 Nxc7 Rxa5 Qxa5 Nxg5 hxg5 Bxg5 d6 Qxd6 Nb5 Qc6 Qc3 Nxe4
17   -0.15   00:00   6683K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 Ke2 Qxh4 c5 Rg7 c6 Ng5 Bxa5 Qh3 Qc3
18   -0.12   00:00   8833K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 c5 g4 Bxc7 Qxh4 Ke2 Nxc7 Nxd6 gxf3+ Kd3 Qe7 Qc3 Bg5 Rb7
19   -0.26   00:01  14430K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 Ke2 Qxh4 Bxa5 Ng5 Rb3 Nh3 Bb4 Bf8 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Bd6 Bd3 Nf6 Rbb1 Nd7
20   -0.54   00:02  23188K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 Ke2 Qxh4 Bxa5 Ng5 Rb3 Nh3 Bxc7 Nxc7 Nxc7 Rac8 Nb5 Bf8 Rb4 g5 Na7 Rc5
21   -0.37   00:02  28780K  Bc3 Bg4 Qd3 Qe7 Re1 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 Ke2 Qxh4 bxa5 bxa5 c5 Qe7 c6 Nef6 Rh1 a4 Rab1 Rgb8 Rb4 Rf8 Rxa4 Rxa4
22   -0.34   00:04  45588K  Bc3 Bg4 Qd3 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 bxa5 bxa5 c5 Qe7 cxd6 cxd6 Ke2 Nef6 Qd1 Rgc8 a4 Nf8 Qe1 Bg7 Qg1 Rc5 Bd3 Rac8 Bxa5 Kh7 Qh1
23   -0.10   00:06  61022K  Bc3 Bg4 Qd3 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 bxa5 bxa5 c5 Qxh4 Ke2 Qe7 c6 g5 Rh1 Nef6 Rag1 Qf7 Bd2 g4 fxg4 Rxg4 f3 Rxg1 Rxg1 h4 Rh1
24   -0.38   00:14 139390K  Bc3 Rg7 Ke1 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Kd2 h4 bxa5 bxa5 Rh1 Nxf3+ gxf3 Nh5 Kc1 Rg2 Qe1 Ng3 fxg3 fxg3+ Kb2 Rf2 Rg1 Rxf3 Bxa5 Qg5 Bxc7
25   -0.54   00:19 180164K  Bc3 Rg7 bxa5 bxa5 c5 g5 Nxd6 cxd6 Rb6 Bg4 Rxd6 Qe7 Qc4 Bxf3 gxf3 Rc8 Bd3 gxh4 Re6 Rxc5 Rxe7 Rxc4 Bxc4 Rxe7 d6 Re8 Bb5 Rd8 Rd1 Ng5 Bxe5
26   -0.38   00:21 199521K  Bc3 Bg4 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne8 Ke2 Qxh4 Qh1 Qe7 Rg1 a4 Kd2 Ng5 Bd3 Qd7 Qg2 Qh3 Ke2 Rg7 Qxh3 Nxh3 Rh1 Ng5 Rag1 Kg8 Bc2
27   -0.60   00:53 489045K  Bc3 Rg7 Ke1 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Kd2 Nxf3+ gxf3 Bh3 bxa5 bxa5 Rh1 Bg2 Rh2 h4 c5 h3 Rg1 Nh7 Qc4 Qh4 Qe2 Qf6 Qc4 Ng5 Bd1 dxc5 Kc1 Qe7 Rgxg2 hxg2 Rxg2 Nf7 Rh2 Rg1 Qe2 Rb8 Rh5 Kg7 Kb2
28   -0.62   01:06 620153K  Bc3 Rg7 Ke1 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Kd2 h4 bxa5 Bg4 Rh1 h3 Rxh3 Bxh3 gxh3 bxa5 Rh1 Qb8 Rb1 Qc8 Nxg5 Bxg5 Qf3 Bh4 c5 Bxf2 Qxf2 Qxh3 Kc1 Rg2 Qe1 Qh2 Qd1
29   -0.55   01:28 821655K  Bc3 Bg4 Qd3 Qe7 Re1 Rg7 Bb2 Ne8 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Qd8 Rh1 Ng5 Rac1 Re7 c6 Kh7 Rcg1 Nf6 Nc3 Qc8 Rh2 axb4 axb4 Re8 Kd2 Nf7 Kc1 Rg8 Bb3
30   -0.64   02:03   1143M  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 c5 g4 Ng1 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 g3 f3 a4 Ne8 Bd2 Bxd2 Qxd2 Nhf6 Bd3 Ba6 Nc3 Bxd3+ Qxd3 Nd6 a5 Rgg8 Re1 Rgb8 a6 Rb2 Ra5 Kg7 Qe3
31   -0.95   03:12   1799M  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 c5 g4 Ng1 f3 g3 dxc5 a4 Ne8 Bc3 Qe7 Bd3 Nhf6 Bb2 Nd6 Ba3 c4 Bc2 Ba6 Nc3 Rgg8 Bc1 Bxc1 Rxc1 Qg7 Qe3 Nd7 Rd1 Kh7 Rdb1 Nf6 a5 Qg6 Rb2
32   -0.79   03:44   2110M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 Rg7 Qe1 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Ra3 Ne8 c5 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 cxd6 cxd6 Qh1 Qh4 Rg1 Rxg1 Qxg1 h2 Qh1 Bd7 Ra1 Bg5 Bb3 Rc8 Bxa5 Rc5 Bd2 Bd8 Rb1 Bb6 Qg2 Bxb5+ axb5 Rxb5
33   -1.10   07:33   4292M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 c5 g4 Ne1 Nd7 cxd6 cxd6 Kg1 Nc5 g3 Nf6 Bc1 f3 Qd1 Bxc1 Rxc1 Bb7 Qd2 Ncxe4 Bxe4 Nxe4 Qd3 Nf6 Rc6 Bxc6 dxc6 e4 Qd4 Qe7 Rc3 Qe5 Qxd6 Qxd6 Nxd6
34   -1.48   20:00  11456M  Bc3 g5
Nodes: 11456005535
Nodes/second: 9546488
Best move: Bc3
Ponder move: g5
I will try a little longer run.
It seems that there may be something very strange about the Thoth eval and/or search.
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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:57 am

A bit longer run, seems about like the others to me:

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Searching: r1bq2rk/2p4n/1p1p1npb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 w - - 0 1
infinite: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0

 1   +1.00   00:00    7040  Kg1
 2   +1.08   00:00   42223  bxa5 bxa5
 3   +0.53   00:00   66639  bxa5 bxa5 c5
 4   +0.42   00:00  106114  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4
 5   +0.34   00:00  123894  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4 Kg1
 6   +0.24   00:00  147246  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4 Kg1 g5
 7   +1.11   00:00  188847  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4
 8   +0.56   00:00  212816  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Nh2 Qxh4
 9   +0.67   00:00  233818  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Rb3
10   +0.46   00:00  282886  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Ng5
11   +0.46   00:00  312371  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 dxc5 Bc3
12   +0.46   00:00  344762  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Ke2 Nef6
13   +0.38   00:00  504152  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4 Nh2 Bd7 Bxa5 Ne8 Nf3 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4
14   +0.32   00:00  562796  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Qe7 a4 Nhf6 a5 Nd7 Bb4
15   +0.33   00:00   1147K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Nxc7 Qh1+ Ke2 Qxe1+ Bxe1 Nxc7 cxd6 Na6 Bc3 Rgc8
16   +0.42   00:00   1354K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Qc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Bg7 Ke2 Nhf6 c5 dxc5 d6 Nxd6 Nxc7 Rxa5 Qxa5 Nd7 a4 Kh7
17   -0.21   00:00   6123K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 c5 g4 Ng5 dxc5 Nxc7 Rxa5 Nce6 Bxe6 Nxe6 Qa8 Nxg7 Kxg7 Qc3 Nd7 a4 Ra7 Rb5
18   -0.47   00:01  10347K  bxa5 bxa5 c5 g5 Qe1 g4 Ng5 Rg7 cxd6 cxd6 Nxh7 Kxh7 g3 Nd7 Nxd6 Ba6+ Nb5 Qf6 Kg1 Rc8 Bd1 fxg3 Bxh6 gxf2+ Qxf2 Qxf2+ Kxf2 Kxh6
19   -0.25   00:01  12596K  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 Bg4 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 dxc5 Qc3 Qd6 Rab1
20   -0.47   00:02  21003K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Ne8 Ng1 h4 Rab1 h3 gxh3 f3 Nxf3 Nxh3 Bd2 Bxd2 Qxd2 Nf4 Ke1 Bh3
21   -0.08   00:04  45999K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 gxh4 c6 h3 Ke2 Bg7 a4 Ng5 Qh1 Rc8
22   -0.23   00:05  55644K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 gxh4 c6 h3 Ke2 Ng5 Qh1 Na6 Rd7 Qf6
23   -0.75   00:14 137565K  Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 gxh4 e5 Ng4 e6 Nhf6 Kg1 h3 Bf5 Kg8 f3 Ne3 Bxh3 Ba6 bxa5 bxa5 Qd3 Qe7 Ra2 h4 Bf5 Rf8 Bg6
24   -0.64   00:15 142198K  Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 f3 gxh4 fxg4 Bxg4 Qd2 h3 gxh3 Bxh3+ Ke1 Bg4 Qf2 Ng5 Kd2 f3 Kc3 Nh3 Qe1 f2 Qh1 Kg8 Kb2 axb4
25   -0.65   00:27 258302K  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nbd4 exd4 Nxd4 Qe8 e5 dxe5 Nc6 e4 Qxe4 Qxe4 Bxe4 Bg7 Ne5 Rd8 Nf7+ Kg8 Nxd8 Nxe4 Bxg7 Nd2+ Kg1 Nxb1 Be5 Nd2 hxg5 Nxc4 Bxf4 Bf5 Ne6
26   -0.52   00:31 296131K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 Ne8 Bb4 Bh3 Qh1 Bg2 Qh2 h3 Rg1 Kg8 Rc3 Bg5 Rxg2 hxg2 Qxg2 Bf6 Qh1 Bh4 a4
27   -0.74   00:59 566491K  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Ne8 c5 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 cxd6 cxd6 Qh1 Qh4 Rg1 Rxg1 Qxg1 h2 Qh1 Bf8 Bc3 Bd7 Ra1 Nf6 Rb1 Qh5
28   -0.39   01:24 795703K  Bc3 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 Qd3 gxh4 Bxg7+ Bxg7 e5 Ng5 e6 Bxa1 Qg6 Be5 Qxh5+ Kg7 Qxg4 Qf6 Re1 Ba6 Qe2 Bxb5 Qxe5 Qxe5 Rxe5 Bxc4+ Kg1 Kh6 Rf5 f3
29   -0.88   01:51   1060M  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 Rc3 Qg8 Rb1 Qe8 c5 dxc5 Rbb3 Qh5 Rxc5 h2 Rxc7 Nxf3 Rxf3
30   -0.82   02:32   1446M  Bc3 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 Qd3 gxh4 Bxg7+ Bxg7 e5 Ng5 e6 Bxa1 Qg6 Be5 Qxh5+ Kg7 Qxg4 Qf6 Re1 Ba6 Bf5 Bxb5 Rxe5 Bxc4+ Kg1 h3 Qxf4 Rh8 e7 hxg2
31   -1.04   05:29   3124M  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Raa1 c4 Bb2 Rg6 Ba3 Qf7 Bb2 Bg7 Ra3 Qd7 Rc3 Ba6 Rxc4 Bxb5 axb5 Qxb5 Rxg5 Rxg5 Qxh3+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kh7 Qc6 Qxc6 Rxc6
32   -1.18   07:28   4231M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 Rg7 Ra3 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Raa1 c4 Rad1 Rg6 Bb2 Ba6 Rg4 Kg8 Ba3 Qd8 Rxg5 Bxg5 Qxh3 Bc8 Qg2 Raa6 Bb2 Qe7 Rh1 Rg7 Rh5 Rh6 Rxh6 Bxh6 Qh1
33   -1.18   07:37   4319M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 Rd3 Qe8 Kd1 Qh5 Kc1 Qh4 Rf1 h2 Bc3 Ba6 Kb2 Nh7 Rdd1 Nf6 Ra1 Rb8 Bxa5 Rb7 Ra3 Nd7 Bb4 Qh3 Rb1 Rg2 Rf1
34   -1.06   10:20   5871M  a4 Rg7 c5 bxc5 bxc5 g5 cxd6 cxd6 Rb3 g4 Ne1 Ba6 g3 Nd7 Rc3 Nc5 Kg1 Nf6 Rc4 Rc8 Qf1 Rg6 Qe2 Qb6 Ra3 Bxb5 axb5 f3 Qd1 Qxb5 Rac3 Bxd2 Qxd2 Qb6
35   -1.07   12:04   6856M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 c5 gxh4 Nxh4 Nxe4 Ng6+ Rxg6 Bxe4 Qh4 Qe1 Rg7 cxd6 f3 gxf3 Bxd2 Qxd2 Ng5 Qe3 Nxe4 Qxe4 Qg5 Ke2 Bf5 Qe3 Qxe3+ Kxe3 Bxb1 dxc7 Bf5 Nd6 Rxc7 Nxf5 Rc4 Ra1 h4 d6 Rd8 Rh1 Rxa4 Nxh4 Kg7 Nf5+ Kf6
36   -1.35   19:22  11070M  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 gxh4 Qxh5 Qe7 Bd4 Bg7 Qxh4 Nxd5 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qxe7+ Nxe7 Nxc7 Ra7 Nb5 Rd7 Rd1 Ng5 Nd6 Nf7 Nxc8 Rxd1+ Rxd1 Rxc8 Bb3 Ne5 Ke2 N7g6 Rd6 Rb8 Ba2 Rb2+ Rd2
37   -1.33   22:45  12934M  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Qe7 Bd4 gxh4 Qxh5 Bg7 Qxh4 Nxd5 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qxe7+ Nxe7 Nxc7 Ra7 Nb5 Rd7 Rd1 Ng5 Rxd7 Bxd7 Rb1 Be6 Bd3 Ng6 Nc3 f3 gxf3 Nxf3 Ke2 Rf8 Rb7+ Kh6 Rb6 Nf4+ Kd1 Nxd3 Rxe6+ Kh5 Rd6 Nb2+ Ke2
38   -1.51   52:38  29412M  Qe1 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Qb4 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 Qxd6 Bg5 Qxd8+ Bxd8 Nd6 h3 Nxc8 Rxc8 Rb6 Rh7 c5 h2 Kg2 Be7 Rg6 Bxc5 Rh1 Nb5 Rxh2 Rxh2+ Kxh2 Nd4 Bd1 Bxa3 Ra6 Bc5 Kh3 Rg8
39   -1.52 1:00:00  33597M  Bd1 g5
Nodes: 33597821361
Nodes/second: 9332559
Best move: Bd1
Ponder move: g5
Now, the key move found by Thoth seems as good as those found by other engines, but the score is way off.
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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by zullil » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:10 am

Dann Corbit wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:57 am
A bit longer run, seems about like the others to me:

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Searching: r1bq2rk/2p4n/1p1p1npb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 w - - 0 1
infinite: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0

 1   +1.00   00:00    7040  Kg1
 2   +1.08   00:00   42223  bxa5 bxa5
 3   +0.53   00:00   66639  bxa5 bxa5 c5
 4   +0.42   00:00  106114  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4
 5   +0.34   00:00  123894  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4 Kg1
 6   +0.24   00:00  147246  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4 Kg1 g5
 7   +1.11   00:00  188847  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4
 8   +0.56   00:00  212816  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Nh2 Qxh4
 9   +0.67   00:00  233818  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Rb3
10   +0.46   00:00  282886  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Ng5
11   +0.46   00:00  312371  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 dxc5 Bc3
12   +0.46   00:00  344762  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Ke2 Nef6
13   +0.38   00:00  504152  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4 Nh2 Bd7 Bxa5 Ne8 Nf3 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4
14   +0.32   00:00  562796  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Qe7 a4 Nhf6 a5 Nd7 Bb4
15   +0.33   00:00   1147K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Nxc7 Qh1+ Ke2 Qxe1+ Bxe1 Nxc7 cxd6 Na6 Bc3 Rgc8
16   +0.42   00:00   1354K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Qc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Bg7 Ke2 Nhf6 c5 dxc5 d6 Nxd6 Nxc7 Rxa5 Qxa5 Nd7 a4 Kh7
17   -0.21   00:00   6123K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 c5 g4 Ng5 dxc5 Nxc7 Rxa5 Nce6 Bxe6 Nxe6 Qa8 Nxg7 Kxg7 Qc3 Nd7 a4 Ra7 Rb5
18   -0.47   00:01  10347K  bxa5 bxa5 c5 g5 Qe1 g4 Ng5 Rg7 cxd6 cxd6 Nxh7 Kxh7 g3 Nd7 Nxd6 Ba6+ Nb5 Qf6 Kg1 Rc8 Bd1 fxg3 Bxh6 gxf2+ Qxf2 Qxf2+ Kxf2 Kxh6
19   -0.25   00:01  12596K  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 Bg4 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 dxc5 Qc3 Qd6 Rab1
20   -0.47   00:02  21003K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Ne8 Ng1 h4 Rab1 h3 gxh3 f3 Nxf3 Nxh3 Bd2 Bxd2 Qxd2 Nf4 Ke1 Bh3
21   -0.08   00:04  45999K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 gxh4 c6 h3 Ke2 Bg7 a4 Ng5 Qh1 Rc8
22   -0.23   00:05  55644K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 gxh4 c6 h3 Ke2 Ng5 Qh1 Na6 Rd7 Qf6
23   -0.75   00:14 137565K  Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 gxh4 e5 Ng4 e6 Nhf6 Kg1 h3 Bf5 Kg8 f3 Ne3 Bxh3 Ba6 bxa5 bxa5 Qd3 Qe7 Ra2 h4 Bf5 Rf8 Bg6
24   -0.64   00:15 142198K  Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 f3 gxh4 fxg4 Bxg4 Qd2 h3 gxh3 Bxh3+ Ke1 Bg4 Qf2 Ng5 Kd2 f3 Kc3 Nh3 Qe1 f2 Qh1 Kg8 Kb2 axb4
25   -0.65   00:27 258302K  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nbd4 exd4 Nxd4 Qe8 e5 dxe5 Nc6 e4 Qxe4 Qxe4 Bxe4 Bg7 Ne5 Rd8 Nf7+ Kg8 Nxd8 Nxe4 Bxg7 Nd2+ Kg1 Nxb1 Be5 Nd2 hxg5 Nxc4 Bxf4 Bf5 Ne6
26   -0.52   00:31 296131K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 Ne8 Bb4 Bh3 Qh1 Bg2 Qh2 h3 Rg1 Kg8 Rc3 Bg5 Rxg2 hxg2 Qxg2 Bf6 Qh1 Bh4 a4
27   -0.74   00:59 566491K  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Ne8 c5 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 cxd6 cxd6 Qh1 Qh4 Rg1 Rxg1 Qxg1 h2 Qh1 Bf8 Bc3 Bd7 Ra1 Nf6 Rb1 Qh5
28   -0.39   01:24 795703K  Bc3 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 Qd3 gxh4 Bxg7+ Bxg7 e5 Ng5 e6 Bxa1 Qg6 Be5 Qxh5+ Kg7 Qxg4 Qf6 Re1 Ba6 Qe2 Bxb5 Qxe5 Qxe5 Rxe5 Bxc4+ Kg1 Kh6 Rf5 f3
29   -0.88   01:51   1060M  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 Rc3 Qg8 Rb1 Qe8 c5 dxc5 Rbb3 Qh5 Rxc5 h2 Rxc7 Nxf3 Rxf3
30   -0.82   02:32   1446M  Bc3 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 Qd3 gxh4 Bxg7+ Bxg7 e5 Ng5 e6 Bxa1 Qg6 Be5 Qxh5+ Kg7 Qxg4 Qf6 Re1 Ba6 Bf5 Bxb5 Rxe5 Bxc4+ Kg1 h3 Qxf4 Rh8 e7 hxg2
31   -1.04   05:29   3124M  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Raa1 c4 Bb2 Rg6 Ba3 Qf7 Bb2 Bg7 Ra3 Qd7 Rc3 Ba6 Rxc4 Bxb5 axb5 Qxb5 Rxg5 Rxg5 Qxh3+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kh7 Qc6 Qxc6 Rxc6
32   -1.18   07:28   4231M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 Rg7 Ra3 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Raa1 c4 Rad1 Rg6 Bb2 Ba6 Rg4 Kg8 Ba3 Qd8 Rxg5 Bxg5 Qxh3 Bc8 Qg2 Raa6 Bb2 Qe7 Rh1 Rg7 Rh5 Rh6 Rxh6 Bxh6 Qh1
33   -1.18   07:37   4319M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 Rd3 Qe8 Kd1 Qh5 Kc1 Qh4 Rf1 h2 Bc3 Ba6 Kb2 Nh7 Rdd1 Nf6 Ra1 Rb8 Bxa5 Rb7 Ra3 Nd7 Bb4 Qh3 Rb1 Rg2 Rf1
34   -1.06   10:20   5871M  a4 Rg7 c5 bxc5 bxc5 g5 cxd6 cxd6 Rb3 g4 Ne1 Ba6 g3 Nd7 Rc3 Nc5 Kg1 Nf6 Rc4 Rc8 Qf1 Rg6 Qe2 Qb6 Ra3 Bxb5 axb5 f3 Qd1 Qxb5 Rac3 Bxd2 Qxd2 Qb6
35   -1.07   12:04   6856M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 c5 gxh4 Nxh4 Nxe4 Ng6+ Rxg6 Bxe4 Qh4 Qe1 Rg7 cxd6 f3 gxf3 Bxd2 Qxd2 Ng5 Qe3 Nxe4 Qxe4 Qg5 Ke2 Bf5 Qe3 Qxe3+ Kxe3 Bxb1 dxc7 Bf5 Nd6 Rxc7 Nxf5 Rc4 Ra1 h4 d6 Rd8 Rh1 Rxa4 Nxh4 Kg7 Nf5+ Kf6
36   -1.35   19:22  11070M  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 gxh4 Qxh5 Qe7 Bd4 Bg7 Qxh4 Nxd5 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qxe7+ Nxe7 Nxc7 Ra7 Nb5 Rd7 Rd1 Ng5 Nd6 Nf7 Nxc8 Rxd1+ Rxd1 Rxc8 Bb3 Ne5 Ke2 N7g6 Rd6 Rb8 Ba2 Rb2+ Rd2
37   -1.33   22:45  12934M  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Qe7 Bd4 gxh4 Qxh5 Bg7 Qxh4 Nxd5 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qxe7+ Nxe7 Nxc7 Ra7 Nb5 Rd7 Rd1 Ng5 Rxd7 Bxd7 Rb1 Be6 Bd3 Ng6 Nc3 f3 gxf3 Nxf3 Ke2 Rf8 Rb7+ Kh6 Rb6 Nf4+ Kd1 Nxd3 Rxe6+ Kh5 Rd6 Nb2+ Ke2
38   -1.51   52:38  29412M  Qe1 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Qb4 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 Qxd6 Bg5 Qxd8+ Bxd8 Nd6 h3 Nxc8 Rxc8 Rb6 Rh7 c5 h2 Kg2 Be7 Rg6 Bxc5 Rh1 Nb5 Rxh2 Rxh2+ Kxh2 Nd4 Bd1 Bxa3 Ra6 Bc5 Kh3 Rg8
39   -1.52 1:00:00  33597M  Bd1 g5
Nodes: 33597821361
Nodes/second: 9332559
Best move: Bd1
Ponder move: g5
Now, the key move found by Thoth seems as good as those found by other engines, but the score is way off.
Maybe wait until DeepThoth is released. :twisted:

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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:44 pm

DeepThoth will announce:
The answer is Forty Tooth.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.

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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dicaste » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:40 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:57 am
A bit longer run, seems about like the others to me:

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Searching: r1bq2rk/2p4n/1p1p1npb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 w - - 0 1
infinite: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0

 1   +1.00   00:00    7040  Kg1
 2   +1.08   00:00   42223  bxa5 bxa5
 3   +0.53   00:00   66639  bxa5 bxa5 c5
 4   +0.42   00:00  106114  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4
 5   +0.34   00:00  123894  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4 Kg1
 6   +0.24   00:00  147246  bxa5 bxa5 c5 Bg4 Kg1 g5
 7   +1.11   00:00  188847  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4
 8   +0.56   00:00  212816  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Nh2 Qxh4
 9   +0.67   00:00  233818  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Rb3
10   +0.46   00:00  282886  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Ng5
11   +0.46   00:00  312371  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 dxc5 Bc3
12   +0.46   00:00  344762  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Ke2 Nef6
13   +0.38   00:00  504152  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Bg4 Nh2 Bd7 Bxa5 Ne8 Nf3 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4
14   +0.32   00:00  562796  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Bc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Ke2 Qe7 a4 Nhf6 a5 Nd7 Bb4
15   +0.33   00:00   1147K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 c5 Bxf3 gxf3 Qxh4 Nxc7 Qh1+ Ke2 Qxe1+ Bxe1 Nxc7 cxd6 Na6 Bc3 Rgc8
16   +0.42   00:00   1354K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Ne8 Bxa5 Bg4 Qc3 Bxf3 gxf3 Bg7 Ke2 Nhf6 c5 dxc5 d6 Nxd6 Nxc7 Rxa5 Qxa5 Nd7 a4 Kh7
17   -0.21   00:00   6123K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 Rg7 Bxa5 g5 c5 g4 Ng5 dxc5 Nxc7 Rxa5 Nce6 Bxe6 Nxe6 Qa8 Nxg7 Kxg7 Qc3 Nd7 a4 Ra7 Rb5
18   -0.47   00:01  10347K  bxa5 bxa5 c5 g5 Qe1 g4 Ng5 Rg7 cxd6 cxd6 Nxh7 Kxh7 g3 Nd7 Nxd6 Ba6+ Nb5 Qf6 Kg1 Rc8 Bd1 fxg3 Bxh6 gxf2+ Qxf2 Qxf2+ Kxf2 Kxh6
19   -0.25   00:01  12596K  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 Bg4 Qe1 Bxf3 gxf3 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 dxc5 Qc3 Qd6 Rab1
20   -0.47   00:02  21003K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Ne8 Ng1 h4 Rab1 h3 gxh3 f3 Nxf3 Nxh3 Bd2 Bxd2 Qxd2 Nf4 Ke1 Bh3
21   -0.08   00:04  45999K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 gxh4 c6 h3 Ke2 Bg7 a4 Ng5 Qh1 Rc8
22   -0.23   00:05  55644K  Bc3 Bg4 bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Bxf3 gxf3 Rg7 Nxc7 Rxc7 Rb7 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 c5 gxh4 c6 h3 Ke2 Ng5 Qh1 Na6 Rd7 Qf6
23   -0.75   00:14 137565K  Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 gxh4 e5 Ng4 e6 Nhf6 Kg1 h3 Bf5 Kg8 f3 Ne3 Bxh3 Ba6 bxa5 bxa5 Qd3 Qe7 Ra2 h4 Bf5 Rf8 Bg6
24   -0.64   00:15 142198K  Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 f3 gxh4 fxg4 Bxg4 Qd2 h3 gxh3 Bxh3+ Ke1 Bg4 Qf2 Ng5 Kd2 f3 Kc3 Nh3 Qe1 f2 Qh1 Kg8 Kb2 axb4
25   -0.65   00:27 258302K  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nbd4 exd4 Nxd4 Qe8 e5 dxe5 Nc6 e4 Qxe4 Qxe4 Bxe4 Bg7 Ne5 Rd8 Nf7+ Kg8 Nxd8 Nxe4 Bxg7 Nd2+ Kg1 Nxb1 Be5 Nd2 hxg5 Nxc4 Bxf4 Bf5 Ne6
26   -0.52   00:31 296131K  bxa5 bxa5 Qe1 g5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 Ne8 Bb4 Bh3 Qh1 Bg2 Qh2 h3 Rg1 Kg8 Rc3 Bg5 Rxg2 hxg2 Qxg2 Bf6 Qh1 Bh4 a4
27   -0.74   00:59 566491K  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Ne8 c5 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 cxd6 cxd6 Qh1 Qh4 Rg1 Rxg1 Qxg1 h2 Qh1 Bf8 Bc3 Bd7 Ra1 Nf6 Rb1 Qh5
28   -0.39   01:24 795703K  Bc3 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 Qd3 gxh4 Bxg7+ Bxg7 e5 Ng5 e6 Bxa1 Qg6 Be5 Qxh5+ Kg7 Qxg4 Qf6 Re1 Ba6 Qe2 Bxb5 Qxe5 Qxe5 Rxe5 Bxc4+ Kg1 Kh6 Rf5 f3
29   -0.88   01:51   1060M  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 Rc3 Qg8 Rb1 Qe8 c5 dxc5 Rbb3 Qh5 Rxc5 h2 Rxc7 Nxf3 Rxf3
30   -0.82   02:32   1446M  Bc3 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Rg7 Bd4 Ng4 Qd3 gxh4 Bxg7+ Bxg7 e5 Ng5 e6 Bxa1 Qg6 Be5 Qxh5+ Kg7 Qxg4 Qf6 Re1 Ba6 Bf5 Bxb5 Rxe5 Bxc4+ Kg1 h3 Qxf4 Rh8 e7 hxg2
31   -1.04   05:29   3124M  a4 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Raa1 c4 Bb2 Rg6 Ba3 Qf7 Bb2 Bg7 Ra3 Qd7 Rc3 Ba6 Rxc4 Bxb5 axb5 Qxb5 Rxg5 Rxg5 Qxh3+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kh7 Qc6 Qxc6 Rxc6
32   -1.18   07:28   4231M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 Rg7 Ra3 g5 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 c5 dxc5 Bc3 Qe7 Raa1 c4 Rad1 Rg6 Bb2 Ba6 Rg4 Kg8 Ba3 Qd8 Rxg5 Bxg5 Qxh3 Bc8 Qg2 Raa6 Bb2 Qe7 Rh1 Rg7 Rh5 Rh6 Rxh6 Bxh6 Qh1
33   -1.18   07:37   4319M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Qe1 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Ke2 h3 Qh1 Nh7 Rg1 Ng5 Rd3 Qe8 Kd1 Qh5 Kc1 Qh4 Rf1 h2 Bc3 Ba6 Kb2 Nh7 Rdd1 Nf6 Ra1 Rb8 Bxa5 Rb7 Ra3 Nd7 Bb4 Qh3 Rb1 Rg2 Rf1
34   -1.06   10:20   5871M  a4 Rg7 c5 bxc5 bxc5 g5 cxd6 cxd6 Rb3 g4 Ne1 Ba6 g3 Nd7 Rc3 Nc5 Kg1 Nf6 Rc4 Rc8 Qf1 Rg6 Qe2 Qb6 Ra3 Bxb5 axb5 f3 Qd1 Qxb5 Rac3 Bxd2 Qxd2 Qb6
35   -1.07   12:04   6856M  bxa5 bxa5 a4 g5 Ra3 Rg7 c5 gxh4 Nxh4 Nxe4 Ng6+ Rxg6 Bxe4 Qh4 Qe1 Rg7 cxd6 f3 gxf3 Bxd2 Qxd2 Ng5 Qe3 Nxe4 Qxe4 Qg5 Ke2 Bf5 Qe3 Qxe3+ Kxe3 Bxb1 dxc7 Bf5 Nd6 Rxc7 Nxf5 Rc4 Ra1 h4 d6 Rd8 Rh1 Rxa4 Nxh4 Kg7 Nf5+ Kf6
36   -1.35   19:22  11070M  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 gxh4 Qxh5 Qe7 Bd4 Bg7 Qxh4 Nxd5 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qxe7+ Nxe7 Nxc7 Ra7 Nb5 Rd7 Rd1 Ng5 Nd6 Nf7 Nxc8 Rxd1+ Rxd1 Rxc8 Bb3 Ne5 Ke2 N7g6 Rd6 Rb8 Ba2 Rb2+ Rd2
37   -1.33   22:45  12934M  bxa5 bxa5 Bc3 g5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Qe7 Bd4 gxh4 Qxh5 Bg7 Qxh4 Nxd5 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qxe7+ Nxe7 Nxc7 Ra7 Nb5 Rd7 Rd1 Ng5 Rxd7 Bxd7 Rb1 Be6 Bd3 Ng6 Nc3 f3 gxf3 Nxf3 Ke2 Rf8 Rb7+ Kh6 Rb6 Nf4+ Kd1 Nxd3 Rxe6+ Kh5 Rd6 Nb2+ Ke2
38   -1.51   52:38  29412M  Qe1 g5 bxa5 bxa5 Bxa5 Rg7 hxg5 Nxg5 Rb3 Nxf3 gxf3 h4 Qb4 Ne8 Bxc7 Nxc7 Qxd6 Bg5 Qxd8+ Bxd8 Nd6 h3 Nxc8 Rxc8 Rb6 Rh7 c5 h2 Kg2 Be7 Rg6 Bxc5 Rh1 Nb5 Rxh2 Rxh2+ Kxh2 Nd4 Bd1 Bxa3 Ra6 Bc5 Kh3 Rg8
39   -1.52 1:00:00  33597M  Bd1 g5
Nodes: 33597821361
Nodes/second: 9332559
Best move: Bd1
Ponder move: g5
Now, the key move found by Thoth seems as good as those found by other engines, but the score is way off.
Here you go Dann :D

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New game Line
r1bq2rk/2p4n/1p1p1npb/pN1Pp2p/1PP1Pp1P/P4N2/2BBQPP1/RR3K2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 240319 64 POPCNT:

1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.Bxa5 Bg4 4.c5 Qc8 5.Kg1 Bxf3 
  White is better: +/- (0.74)  Depth: 10/13   00:00:00
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Nxg5 Bxg5 6.c6 
  White is better: +/- (0.73)  Depth: 11/14   00:00:00
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Ne8 3.Bxa5 Bg4 4.Rb3 Bxf3 5.Rxf3 Qxh4 6.Rh3 Qe7 7.Rb1 Nhf6 8.Kg1 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.59)  Depth: 12/16   00:00:00
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Ne8 3.Bxa5 Bg4 4.c5 Bxf3 5.gxf3 Qxh4 6.Ke2 Ng5 7.Bc3 Nxf3 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.38)  Depth: 13/23   00:00:00  499kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Ne8 3.Bxa5 g5 4.Qc3 g4 5.Ng5 Nxg5 6.hxg5 Rxg5 7.c5 dxc5 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.61)  Depth: 14/23   00:00:00  555kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 g5 3.Bxa5 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ng5 dxc5 6.d6 Nxg5 7.hxg5 Rxg5 8.Bxc7 Qg8 9.Qc3 
  White is slightly better: +/= (0.42)  Depth: 15/24   00:00:00  1120kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Bc3 Bg4 3.Qe1 Bxf3 4.gxf3 g5 5.hxg5 Nxg5 6.Ke2 h4 7.Bxa5 Nxf3 8.Qh1 Rxa5 9.Qxf3 
  Black has an edge: = (-0.23)  Depth: 16/29   00:00:00  4050kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.Bxa5 g4 5.Ng5 dxc5 6.Nxc7 Rxa5 7.Nge6 Bxe6 8.Nxe6 Qa8 9.Nxg7 Bxg7 10.Rb6 Bf8 11.Rc6 Rxa3 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.63)  Depth: 17/29   00:00:01  8263kN
1.Bc3 Bg4 2.Qd3 Bxf3 3.Qxf3 g5 4.Qh3 g4 5.Qh1 g3 6.f3 Qd7 7.Ke1 c6 8.dxc6 Qxc6 9.Qf1 Rgc8 10.bxa5 bxa5 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.62)  Depth: 18/29   00:00:01  10732kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Bc3 Bg4 3.Qd2 Bxf3 4.gxf3 g5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.c5 Qc8 7.Nxc7 Rxa5 8.Qxa5 Rxc7 9.c6 gxh4 10.Ke2 h3 11.Bd3 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.38)  Depth: 19/29   00:00:01  12211kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Bc3 Bg4 3.Qd2 Bxf3 4.gxf3 g5 5.Bxa5 Rg7 6.Nxc7 Rxc7 7.Rb7 Rxb7 8.Bxd8 Rxd8 9.c5 gxh4 10.c6 Ra7 11.Qc3 h3 12.Ke2 Ng5 13.Rh1 Rc7 14.Qa5 
  The position is equal: = (-0.21)  Depth: 20/32   00:00:02  15017kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.Bxa5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.cxd6 Nxd6 9.Nxd6 Qxd6 10.Bb4 Qa6+ 11.Qe2 Qa7 12.Bd3 Nxg5 13.Rc1 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.65)  Depth: 21/36   00:00:03  32709kN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.Bxa5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.cxd6 Nxd6 9.Nxd6 Qxd6 10.Bb4 Qa6+ 11.Qe2 Qa7 12.Bd3 Nxg5 13.Rc1 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.75 --)  Depth: 22/34   00:00:05  49272kN
1.Bc3 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.65 ++)  Depth: 22/36   00:00:06  57304kN
1.Bc3 Rg7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.84 --)  Depth: 22/36   00:00:06  58933kN
1.Qe1 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Bxa5 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.cxd6 Nxd6 9.Bd3 Nxg5 10.Ke2 h4 11.Bc3 Ngf7 12.Nxd6 Qxd6 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.69)  Depth: 22/42   00:00:09  80279kN
1.Qe1 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Bxa5 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.cxd6 Nxd6 9.Bd3 Nxg5 10.Ke2 h4 11.Bc3 Ngf7 12.Nxd6 Qxd6 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.79 --)  Depth: 23/34   00:00:10  88537kN
1.Qe1 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Bxa5 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.cxd6 Nxd6 9.Bd3 Nxg5 10.Ke2 h4 11.Bc3 Ngf7 12.Nxd6 Qxd6 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.88 --)  Depth: 23/35   00:00:10  96608kN
1.bxa5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.79 ++)  Depth: 23/38   00:00:12  108MN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Bc3 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.Qd2 g4 8.Nd4 g3 9.Nc6 Ba6+ 10.Kg1 gxf2+ 11.Qxf2 Qc8 12.Bd4 Qh3 13.Rb3 Qg4 14.Ne5 Qe2 15.Qxe2 Bxe2 16.Rab1 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.64)  Depth: 23/38   00:00:12  108MN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Bc3 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.Qd2 g4 8.Nd4 g3 9.Nc6 Ba6+ 10.Kg1 gxf2+ 11.Qxf2 Qc8 12.Bd4 Qh3 13.Rb3 Qg4 14.Ne5 Qe2 15.Qxe2 Bxe2 16.Rab1 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.74 --)  Depth: 24/35   00:00:12  111MN
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Bc3 Rg7 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.Qd2 g4 8.Nd4 g3 9.Nc6 Ba6+ 10.Kg1 gxf2+ 11.Qxf2 Qc8 12.Bd4 Qh3 13.Rb3 Qg4 14.Ne5 Qe2 15.Qxe2 Bxe2 16.Rab1 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.83 --)  Depth: 24/42   00:00:12  114MN
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.bxa5 Nxf3+ 5.gxf3 bxa5 6.Kd2 Bh3 7.Rh1 Bg2 8.Rh2 h4 9.Kc1 Nd7 10.Kb2 Nc5 11.Rg1 h3 12.Qe1 Kg8 13.Ka2 Qc8 14.Bxa5 Qa6 15.Bxc7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.90)  Depth: 24/42   00:00:14  128MN
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.bxa5 Nxf3+ 5.gxf3 bxa5 6.Kd2 Bh3 7.Rh1 Bg2 8.Rh2 h4 9.Kc1 Nd7 10.Kb2 Nc5 11.Rg1 h3 12.Qe1 Kg8 13.Ka2 Qc8 14.Bxa5 Qa6 15.Bxc7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.00 --)  Depth: 25/40   00:00:17  161MN
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.bxa5 Nxf3+ 5.gxf3 bxa5 6.Kd2 Bh3 7.Rh1 Bg2 8.Rh2 h4 9.Kc1 Nd7 10.Kb2 Nc5 11.Rg1 h3 12.Qe1 Kg8 13.Ka2 Qc8 14.Bxa5 Qa6 15.Bxc7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.90 ++)  Depth: 25/40   00:00:21  196MN
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.bxa5 Nxf3+ 5.gxf3 bxa5 6.Kd2 Bh3 7.Rh1 Bg2 8.Rh2 h4 9.Kc1 Nd7 10.Kb2 Nc5 11.Rg1 h3 12.Qe1 Kg8 13.Ka2 Qc8 14.Bxa5 Qa6 15.Bxc7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.09 --)  Depth: 25/44   00:00:23  215MN, tb=3
1.Qe1 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.92 ++)  Depth: 25/46   00:00:30  280MN, tb=3
1.Qe1 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Bxa5 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.Ke2 Nxg5 9.Qc3 h4 10.cxd6 Nxd6 11.a4 Kg8 12.Bb3 h3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.89)  Depth: 25/46   00:00:30  283MN, tb=3
1.Qe1 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Bxa5 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ng5 g3 6.f3 Bxg5 7.hxg5 Ne8 8.Ke2 Nxg5 9.Qc3 h4 10.cxd6 Nxd6 11.a4 Kg8 12.Bb3 Rxa5 13.Qxa5 h3 14.Qc3 Qe7 15.Nxd6 Qxd6 16.gxh3 Rh7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.90)  Depth: 26/40   00:00:32  296MN, tb=3
1.Bc3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.80 ++)  Depth: 27/46   00:00:33  307MN, tb=3
1.Bc3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.71 ++)  Depth: 27/46   00:00:33  308MN, tb=3
1.Bc3 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.57 ++)  Depth: 27/46   00:00:33  308MN, tb=3
1.Bc3 Bg4 2.Qd3 Bxf3 3.gxf3 Ne8 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.c5 Qe7 6.Bb2 dxc5 7.Ke2 Nhf6 8.Qc3 Nd7 9.a4 Qxh4 10.Bb3 Qd8 11.d6 Rg7 12.Bd5 cxd6 13.Bxa8 Qxa8 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.62)  Depth: 27/46   00:00:34  319MN, tb=3
1.Bc3 Bg4 2.Qd3 Bxf3 3.gxf3 Ne8 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.c5 Qe7 6.Bb2 dxc5 7.Ke2 Nhf6 8.Qc3 Nd7 9.a4 Qxh4 10.Bb3 Qd8 11.d6 Rg7 12.Bd5 cxd6 13.Bxa8 Qxa8 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.71 --)  Depth: 28/34   00:00:37  347MN, tb=3
1.Bc3 Bg4 2.Qd3 Bxf3 3.gxf3 Ne8 4.bxa5 bxa5 5.c5 Qe7 6.Bb2 dxc5 7.Ke2 Nhf6 8.Qc3 Nd7 9.a4 Qxh4 10.Bb3 Qd8 11.d6 Rg7 12.Bd5 cxd6 13.Bxa8 Qxa8 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.62 ++)  Depth: 28/49   00:00:42  392MN, tb=4
1.Bc3 Rg7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.81 --)  Depth: 28/49   00:00:48  446MN, tb=4
1.Bc3 Rg7 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.64 ++)  Depth: 28/53   00:00:51  478MN, tb=6
1.Bc3 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Nxe5 dxe5 4.Bxe5 Rg7 5.Bd4 Ng4 6.Ke1 gxh4 7.e5 c6 8.Bxh7 Rxh7 9.Nd6 cxd5 10.cxd5 Qg5 11.Ne4 Qg7 12.Nd6 f3 13.Qxf3 Ba6 14.Nf7+ Kg8 15.Nxh6+ Rxh6 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.63)  Depth: 28/53   00:00:54  507MN, tb=6
1.Bc3 g5 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.Nxe5 dxe5 4.Bxe5 Rg7 5.Bd4 Ng4 6.Ke1 gxh4 7.e5 c6 8.Bxh7 Rxh7 9.Nd6 cxd5 10.cxd5 Qg5 11.Ne4 Qg7 12.Nd6 f3 13.Qxf3 Ba6 14.Nf7+ Kg8 15.Nxh6+ Rxh6 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.73 --)  Depth: 29/49   00:01:06  624MN, tb=121
1.Bc3 Rg7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.82 --)  Depth: 29/52   00:01:09  651MN, tb=121
1.Bc3 Rg7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.96 --)  Depth: 29/52   00:01:13  689MN, tb=125
1.Bc3 Rg7 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.84 ++)  Depth: 29/52   00:01:14  698MN, tb=125
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.a4 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Ra3 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Nh7 9.Rg1 Ng5 10.Raa1 Bd7 11.c5 Be8 12.Rxg5 Bxg5 13.Qxh3+ Rh7 14.Qf5 Bh5 15.Qh3 Bf6 16.Rh1 dxc5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.92)  Depth: 29/52   00:01:18  735MN, tb=125
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.a4 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Ra3 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Nh7 9.Rg1 Ng5 10.Raa1 Bd7 11.c5 Be8 12.Rxg5 Bxg5 13.Qxh3+ Rh7 14.Qf5 Bh5 15.Qh3 Bf6 16.Rh1 dxc5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.01 --)  Depth: 30/43   00:01:27  820MN, tb=128
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.a4 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Ra3 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Nh7 9.Rg1 Ng5 10.Raa1 Bd7 11.c5 Be8 12.Rxg5 Bxg5 13.Qxh3+ Rh7 14.Qf5 Bh5 15.Qh3 Bf6 16.Rh1 dxc5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.92 ++)  Depth: 30/47   00:01:28  838MN, tb=130
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.a4 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Ra3 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Nh7 9.Rg1 Ng5 10.Raa1 Bd7 11.c5 Be8 12.Rxg5 Bxg5 13.Qxh3+ Rh7 14.Qf5 Bh5 15.Qh3 Bf6 16.Rh1 dxc5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.78 ++)  Depth: 30/53   00:01:36  910MN, tb=130
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.a4 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Ra3 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Nh7 9.Rg1 Ng5 10.Raa1 Bd7 11.c5 Be8 12.Rxg5 Bxg5 13.Qxh3+ Rh7 14.Qf5 Bh5 15.Qh3 Bf6 16.Rh1 dxc5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.11 --)  Depth: 30/55   00:01:40  946MN, tb=130
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.Qe1 Rg7 3.a4 g5 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Ra3 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Nh7 9.Rg1 Ng5 10.Raa1 Bd7 11.c5 Be8 12.Rxg5 Bxg5 13.Qxh3+ Rh7 14.Qf5 Bh5 15.Qh3 Bf6 16.Rh1 dxc5 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.84 ++)  Depth: 30/55   00:01:46  1004MN, tb=147
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.a4 g5 3.Ra3 Rg7 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Qe1 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Ra6 9.Rg1 Rh7 10.Rb3 Bg7 11.Qh2 c6 12.Nc3 Rb6 13.Rgb1 Rxb3 14.Rxb3 Bd7 15.Rb1 Rh6 16.Rg1 Qc7 17.Bd3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.79)  Depth: 30/55   00:01:51  1057MN, tb=147
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.a4 g5 3.Ra3 Rg7 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Qe1 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Ra6 9.Rg1 Rh7 10.Rb3 Bg7 11.Qh2 c6 12.Nc3 Rb6 13.Rgb1 Rxb3 14.Rxb3 Bd7 15.Rb1 Rh6 16.Rg1 Qc7 17.Bd3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.88 --)  Depth: 31/46   00:02:02  1156MN, tb=149
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.a4 g5 3.Ra3 Rg7 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Qe1 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Ra6 9.Rg1 Rh7 10.Rb3 Bg7 11.Qh2 c6 12.Nc3 Rb6 13.Rgb1 Rxb3 14.Rxb3 Bd7 15.Rb1 Rh6 16.Rg1 Qc7 17.Bd3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.98 --)  Depth: 31/46   00:02:09  1227MN, tb=151
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.a4 g5 3.Ra3 Rg7 4.hxg5 Nxg5 5.Qe1 Nxf3 6.gxf3 h4 7.Ke2 h3 8.Qh1 Ra6 9.Rg1 Rh7 10.Rb3 Bg7 11.Qh2 c6 12.Nc3 Rb6 13.Rgb1 Rxb3 14.Rxb3 Bd7 15.Rb1 Rh6 16.Rg1 Qc7 17.Bd3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.12 --)  Depth: 31/50   00:02:20  1328MN, tb=159
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.a4 g5 3.Ra3 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ne1 Nd7 6.cxd6 cxd6 7.Nxd6 Ba6 8.Rb5 Qe7 9.Rc3 f3 10.gxf3 Bxd2 11.Nf5 Bxc3 12.Nxe7 Rxe7 13.fxg4 hxg4 14.Qxg4 Bxb5+ 15.axb5 Nhf6 16.Qh3 Bb4 17.Nd3 Rc8 18.Nxb4 axb4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.08)  Depth: 31/56   00:02:43  1545MN, tb=204
1.bxa5 bxa5 2.a4 g5 3.Ra3 Rg7 4.c5 g4 5.Ne1 Nd7 6.cxd6 cxd6 7.Nxd6 Ba6 8.Rb5 Qe7 9.Rc3 f3 10.gxf3 Bxd2 11.Nf5 Bxc3 12.Nxe7 Rxe7 13.fxg4 hxg4 14.Qxg4 Bxb5+ 15.axb5 Nhf6 16.Qh3 Bb4 17.Nd3 Rc8 18.Nxb4 axb4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.18 --)  Depth: 32/41   00:02:52  1630MN, tb=207
1.Bc3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.08 ++)  Depth: 32/54   00:03:32  2004MN, tb=247
1.Bc3 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.94 ++)  Depth: 32/54   00:03:37  2053MN, tb=247
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.hxg5 Nxg5 8.Nxg5 Rxg5 9.Bxf4 Ng4 10.Kg1 Rg6 11.Bxh6 Rxh6 12.Qf3 Bd7 13.Rb7 Qh4 14.Qg3 Qxg3 15.fxg3 Ne5 16.Rab1 Rg8 17.Rb8 Rhg6 18.Rxg8+ Kxg8 19.Rb8+ Kf7 20.Bd1 Bg4 21.Ba4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.22)  Depth: 32/54   00:03:43  2108MN, tb=247
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.hxg5 Nxg5 8.Nxg5 Rxg5 9.Bxf4 Ng4 10.Kg1 Rg6 11.Bxh6 Rxh6 12.Qf3 Bd7 13.Rb7 Qh4 14.Qg3 Qxg3 15.fxg3 Ne5 16.Rab1 Rg8 17.Rb8 Rhg6 18.Rxg8+ Kxg8 19.Rb8+ Kf7 20.Bd1 Bg4 21.Ba4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.13 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:03:54  2209MN, tb=313
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.hxg5 Nxg5 8.Nxg5 Rxg5 9.Bxf4 Ng4 10.Kg1 Rg6 11.Bxh6 Rxh6 12.Qf3 Bd7 13.Rb7 Qh4 14.Qg3 Qxg3 15.fxg3 Ne5 16.Rab1 Rg8 17.Rb8 Rhg6 18.Rxg8+ Kxg8 19.Rb8+ Kf7 20.Bd1 Bg4 21.Ba4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-1.03 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:03:55  2224MN, tb=316
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.hxg5 Nxg5 8.Nxg5 Rxg5 9.Bxf4 Ng4 10.Kg1 Rg6 11.Bxh6 Rxh6 12.Qf3 Bd7 13.Rb7 Qh4 14.Qg3 Qxg3 15.fxg3 Ne5 16.Rab1 Rg8 17.Rb8 Rhg6 18.Rxg8+ Kxg8 19.Rb8+ Kf7 20.Bd1 Bg4 21.Ba4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.89 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:03:57  2239MN, tb=316
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.bxa5 bxa5 3.c5 g5 4.cxd6 cxd6 5.Nxd6 Qxd6 6.Bxe5 Qd8 7.hxg5 Nxg5 8.Nxg5 Rxg5 9.Bxf4 Ng4 10.Kg1 Rg6 11.Bxh6 Rxh6 12.Qf3 Bd7 13.Rb7 Qh4 14.Qg3 Qxg3 15.fxg3 Ne5 16.Rab1 Rg8 17.Rb8 Rhg6 18.Rxg8+ Kxg8 19.Rb8+ Kf7 20.Bd1 Bg4 21.Ba4 
  Black is slightly better: =/+ (-0.69 ++)  Depth: 33/50   00:04:06  2324MN, tb=357
1.Bc3 Rg7 2.Ke1 g5 3.hxg5 Nxg5 4.Kd2 h4 5.bxa5 Bg4 6.Rh1 h3 7.Rxh3 Bxh3 8.gxh3 bxa5 9.Rh1 Qb8 10.Rb1 Qb6 11.Nbd4 exd4 12.Rxb6 dxc3+ 13.Kxc3 cxb6 14.e5 Re8 15.e6 b5 16.Nd4 f3 17.Qd3 Nge4+ 18.Kb2 Rg2 19.Nf5 bxc4 20.Qxc4 
  Black is better: -/+ (-0.88)  Depth: 33/57   00:04:13  2380MN, tb=699

(,  26.03.2019)

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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:26 pm

I don't have Thothfish and I cannot get it because my provider rejects the address where it is stored.

I would be interested mainly in the source code so that I can see what has changed.

I will say this, I think the moves by Thothfish are very strong responses and are as good or better than those provided by other engines.
The evaluation values seem strange though.
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Re: Revisiting g5 (Tough Tactical Test Position?)

Post by Dicaste » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:30 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:26 pm
I don't have Thothfish and I cannot get it because my provider rejects the address where it is stored.

I would be interested mainly in the source code so that I can see what has changed.

I will say this, I think the moves by Thothfish are very strong responses and are as good or better than those provided by other engines.
The evaluation values seem strange though.
Yes it feels like it's somehow better than original stockfish(maybe for tuned parameters). Here you go source files btw;
https://s.put.re/8ayD1yzS.rar
http://rgho.st/8MGwV48wc

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