Bluefish vs Leela in TCEC , who will win? BF =170 Threads, Lc0 =2x GPU

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Bluefish vs Leela in TCEC , who will win? BF =170 Threads, Lc0 =2x GPU

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:19 pm

A lot of people might think bluefish will win, but Leela actually beat BF in 4 games match with 2.5-1.5. First two games are bookless and the other two games were chosen with opening from Div p where SF lose vs Leela. TC= 120+5 mins
Sample size is small, but Leela managed to win SF in H2H in three public games, in premier divion, in ccc champion ship final and this match.
This Leela is estimated to be +50 elo above SF. (+30 elo from T32930 to T41800, and +20 elo from T41800 to this newest JH leela).
My prediction for SuFI would be 55-45 in favour of Leela.

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Re: Bluefish vs Leela in TCEC , who will win?

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Re: Bluefish vs Leela in TCEC , who will win? BF =170 Threads, Lc0 =2x GPU

Post by Laskos » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:22 pm

When the SuFi will be played, what hardware will Stockfish use, what T40 net will they use, was the last LR drop achieved?

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Post by Nay Lin Tun » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:39 pm

Laskos wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:22 pm
When the SuFi will be played, what hardware will Stockfish use, what T40 net will they use, was the last LR drop achieved?
Haerware for SF= 44 cores
There is no decision for Leela net for SUFI as it is still too far away.
Leela net for TCEC cup = This Jhorthos T40 net

(It is a third party net developed by Jhorthos from T4200 with 7 men TB rescoring plus partial additional LR drop (T40 is still ongoing without LR drop. This JH net is assumed +10 elo (after testing 7000 games) above mainstream Leela net.

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Re: Bluefish vs Leela in TCEC , who will win? BF =170 Threads, Lc0 =2x GPU

Post by M ANSARI » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:36 am

What on earth is going on in the second game that Lc0 won ???? I thought trolling play was fixed with the latest net???!!!! There must have been at least a 50 move shorter win! Also this under promoting thing has to get fixed ... really annoying to see an alien like strong engine play these silly moves!

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Post by jp » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:24 am

M ANSARI wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:36 am
What on earth is going on in the second game that Lc0 won ???? I thought trolling play was fixed with the latest net???!!!! There must have been at least a 50 move shorter win!
After 100... Kxc7, it's mate in 12.

After 129... Kc4, it's mate in 8.

After 154. Qxe1, it's mate in 6.

After 186... Kxf4, it's mate in 7.


So at least a 100-move shorter win.

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Post by MikeGL » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:19 am

jp wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:24 am
M ANSARI wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:36 am
What on earth is going on in the second game that Lc0 won ???? I thought trolling play was fixed with the latest net???!!!! There must have been at least a 50 move shorter win!
After 100... Kxc7, it's mate in 12.

After 129... Kc4, it's mate in 8.

After 154. Qxe1, it's mate in 6.

After 186... Kxf4, it's mate in 7.


So at least a 100-move shorter win.
Maybe 6-men TB positions once reached, should be stopped and auto adjudicated.

I mean no point continuing if its already in tb.
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Re: Bluefish vs Leela in TCEC , who will win? BF =170 Threads, Lc0 =2x GPU

Post by Jesse Gersenson » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:46 am

M ANSARI wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:36 am
What on earth is going on in the second game that Lc0 won ???? I thought trolling play was fixed with the latest net???!!!! There must have been at least a 50 move shorter win! Also this under promoting thing has to get fixed ... really annoying to see an alien like strong engine play these silly moves!
Silly moves?! Does Lc0 get more points if it wins in less moves?

Asserting Lc0 should play according to your preferred aesthetic is off-topic.

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