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Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 1:50 am
by Kohflote
Based on CCRL 40/40 rating (4 CPU, 64-bit), Fire 7.1 has a rating of 3319 and Komodo 9 is 3308.

Has anyone tested Fire 7.1 against Komodo 9 at this time control or longer time control? Which of these 2 engines is stronger?

Thank you & regards,
Koh, Kah Huat

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 1:04 am
by Kohflote
Hmm... seems like nobody has tested free Komodo 9 against Fire 7.1.

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 1:39 am
by Graham Banks
Kohflote wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:04 am
Hmm... seems like nobody has tested free Komodo 9 against Fire 7.1.
I'm going to run a Komodo 9 gauntlet soon to fill all the gaps in the free engines top twelve crosstable.

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 3:54 am
by Kohflote
Thank you, Graham!

Looking forward to it :)

Best regards,
Koh, Kah Huat

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 am
by lkaufman
You may want to hold off such testing since I anticipate that Komodo 10 will become free soon.

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:50 am
by Graham Banks
lkaufman wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 am
You may want to hold off such testing since I anticipate that Komodo 10 will become free soon.
Thanks for the heads up, Larry. :)

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:39 am
by lkaufman
Graham Banks wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:50 am
lkaufman wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 am
You may want to hold off such testing since I anticipate that Komodo 10 will become free soon.
Thanks for the heads up, Larry. :)
Komodo 10 is indeed now free, so of course this should be the Komodo representative in any test of top free engines. I think it should be the top free cpu engine not related to Stockfish, but I'm not sure. By chance, it seems that Komodo 13.01 MCTS and Komodo 10 are very closely matched in strength.

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:14 am
by Guenther
lkaufman wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 2:39 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:50 am
lkaufman wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 am
You may want to hold off such testing since I anticipate that Komodo 10 will become free soon.
Thanks for the heads up, Larry. :)
Komodo 10 is indeed now free, so of course this should be the Komodo representative in any test of top free engines. I think it should be the top free cpu engine not related to Stockfish, but I'm not sure. By chance, it seems that Komodo 13.01 MCTS and Komodo 10 are very closely matched in strength.
BTW what happens with the interim versions between 9.02 (checked as last free version until today) and 10?
Will they remain private/commercial? IIRC there were 9.1/9.2/9.3/9.42 main versions.
I am just asking for the XB/UCI chronology, surely hardcore collectors will ask too, sooner or later ;-)

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:30 pm
by lkaufman
Guenther wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 8:14 am
lkaufman wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 2:39 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:50 am
lkaufman wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 am
You may want to hold off such testing since I anticipate that Komodo 10 will become free soon.
Thanks for the heads up, Larry. :)
Komodo 10 is indeed now free, so of course this should be the Komodo representative in any test of top free engines. I think it should be the top free cpu engine not related to Stockfish, but I'm not sure. By chance, it seems that Komodo 13.01 MCTS and Komodo 10 are very closely matched in strength.
BTW what happens with the interim versions between 9.02 (checked as last free version until today) and 10?
Will they remain private/commercial? IIRC there were 9.1/9.2/9.3/9.42 main versions.
I am just asking for the XB/UCI chronology, surely hardcore collectors will ask too, sooner or later ;-)
All older versions are supposed to be available free on request to subscribers. If any paying customer wanted some specific old version we would be glad to give it to him free assuming we have it available. We just don't want to have to spend significant time sending out old versions.

Re: Fire 7.1 and free Komodo 9

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:35 pm
by Ovyron
lkaufman wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 6:30 pm
We just don't want to have to spend significant time sending out old versions.
Adding the interim versions to a zip file takes the same effort as just adding major versions.

Though, I guess this makes interim versions more special :) (specially, Komodo 10.1, which has the best playing style, so it'll be more valuable than Komodo 11 when it becomes free)