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Re: buying a new computer

Post by jp » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:59 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:30 am
Uri, I'm curious! Did you buy a new computer yet or make a decision about what you plan to do?
The harder it is for Uri to decide and the longer he waits, the better his final decision will be, even without a decision-making process. :wink:

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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Zenmastur » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:18 am

jp wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:59 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:30 am
Uri, I'm curious! Did you buy a new computer yet or make a decision about what you plan to do?
The harder it is for Uri to decide and the longer he waits, the better his final decision will be, even without a decision-making process. :wink:
While I know that's true, I also know it sucks when you want to analyze games or positions and you don't because of the time it takes on a slow computer. Even a moderately fast modern CPU with a 1 TB NVMe drive for TB's will speed the analysis by more than an order of magnitude compared to what he's been using. This make it a pleasure to do game analysis because you get better results in less time.

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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Uri Blass » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am

I still did not buy a new computer.

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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Damir » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:16 pm

The longer you wait, the harder for you it will be to buy one, cause newer and stronger comps will keep showing each year, and will continue to do so. You should enjoy life and buy one, cause you never know what might happen. Life is too short. :( :(

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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:57 pm

ouachita wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:36 pm
Ryzen 9 3900X, but I've got a bunch of others available like 2699 v4, 2697 v4, et al
I bought one of those for my son and he really likes it.
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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:57 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am
I still did not buy a new computer.
Do you have a budget?
Are you waiting for something specific?
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Re: buying a new computer

Post by ouachita » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:04 pm

We bought the 3900X first for work and 2nd for games and I can confirm a few things after only a few days with it:

1. POPCNT runs ~33% faster than BMI

2. Disabling SMT definitely appears to improve the per-core performance in games (which brings up the gazillions of HT posts here)

3. There is no doubt that, at the same TC, CPU such as 2699 v4 would crush the 3900X "like a worm"
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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:34 pm

Ipman chess test results:
56.311.851 Intel Xeon E5-2699 v4 @2.2Ghz 44threads BMI2 anonymous
It's $4500:
https://express.google.com/u/0/product/ ... 8sEALw_wcB

49.697.763 AMD Ryzen R9 3900X @4.15Ghz 24threads pop+LP P.J (pushed with a chiller, I guess)
It's $550:
http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?3429 ... poEALw_wcB

The nodes per dollar are, well...
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Re: buying a new computer

Post by ouachita » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:56 pm

Every time I see results with HT I get nauseous because the only 2 games I've lost in ~5 years were anomalous results of brief, inadvertent HT
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Re: buying a new computer

Post by Zenmastur » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:16 pm

ouachita wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:04 pm
We bought the 3900X first for work and 2nd for games and I can confirm a few things after only a few days with it:

1. POPCNT runs ~33% faster than BMI

2. Disabling SMT definitely appears to improve the per-core performance in games (which brings up the gazillions of HT posts here)

3. There is no doubt that, at the same TC, CPU such as 2699 v4 would crush the 3900X "like a worm"
1. Who cares?
2. Not relevant.
3. Intel fanboys and their money are soon parted!
4. There is one born every minute.
ouachita wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:56 pm
Every time I see results with HT I get nauseous because the only 2 games I've lost in ~5 years were anomalous results of brief, inadvertent HT
5. Let that be a lesson to you!

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