Re: WCCC 2019 Macau..
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:40 pm
Wishing they drop the "world championship" from the name
It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.
ParticipantsOvyron wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:09 amIt's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.
As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?
supersharp77 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:37 amParticipantsOvyron wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:09 amIt's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.
As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?
24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz
Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz
GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz
Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz
Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used
Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)
Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz
The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC
Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....
Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn] 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 Nf6 4.cxd Nd5 5.g3 c5 6.Nf3 cxd 7.Nd5 exd 8.Nd4 Qb6 9.Nb3 Nb4+ 10.Bd2 Nc6 11.Bg2 Bd2+ 12.Qd2 O-O 13.O-O Rd8 14.Rac1 Nb4 15.a3 Na2 16.Rcd1 Qb3 17.Bd5 Rd5 18.Qd5 Qd5 19.Rd5 Be6 20.Rd2 g6 21.Rfd1 Bf8 22.Rd8+ Rd8 23.Rd8+ Ke7 24.Ra8 a6 25.f3 Nc1 26.Kf2 Nb3 27.g4 Kf6 28.h4 h6 29.Rf8 g5 30.h5 Kg7 31.Rb8 Bd5 32.Ke3 Kf6 33.Kd3 Bc6 34.Kc4 Nc1 35.e4 Ne2 36.Kd3 Nf4+ 37.Kd2 Ne6 38.Kd3 a5 39.b4 a4 40.Ke3 Nc7 41.Rg8 Bb5 42.e5+ Ke5 43.Rh8 Nd5+ 44.Kd2 Kf6 45.Rh6+ Kg7 46.Rd6 Nf4 47.Ke3 Bc6 48.Kf2 f6 49.Rd1 Bb5 50.Rd8 Bc6 51.Rb8 Kh6 52.B5 Bb5 53.Rb7 Bc4 54.Ke3 Bb3 55.Rd7 Bd5 56.Rd6 Kg7 57.Rd7+ Kh6 58.Ra7 Bb3 59.Ra6 Kg7 60.Ra5 Bc2 61.Rc5 Bd1 62.Ke4 Bb3 63.Rc7+ Kh6 64.Rd7 Bc2+ 65.Kd4 Bb3 66.Ke4 Bc2+ 67.Ke3 Bb3 68.Rd2 Bd5 69.Rc2 Ne6 70.Rf2 Nf4 71.Rc2 Nh3 72.Rc5 Nf4 73.Ra5 Bb3 74.Rf5 Kh7 75.Rc5 Rh6 76.Rc6 Kg7 77.Rc5 Bd5 78.Ra5 Bb3 79.Ra8 Bc2 80.Ra7+ Kh6 81.Ra6 Kg7 82.Ra8 Kh6 83.Rd8 Bb3 84.Rf8 Kh7 85.Ra8 Kh6 86.Rd8 Ke6 87.Ke4 Kg7 88.Rd1 Bb3 89.Rd2 Be6 90.Rd8 Bb3 91.Rd2 Be6 92.Rd1 Bb3 93.Rd7+ Kh6 94.Rd6 Bc2+ 95.Kd4 kg7 96.Rd7+ Kh6 97.Rf7 Nd5 98.Ra7 Nf4 99.Ra6 Kg7 100.h6+ Kg6 101.h7 Kh7 102.Rf6 Kg7 103.Rc6 Bb3 104.Ke5 Ng6+ 105.Ke4 Nh4 106.f4 Bd1 107.Rc5 gf 108.Kf4 Kf6 109.Rc6+ Kf7 110.Kg5 Nf3+ 111.Kh6 Ne5 112.Rc7+ Ke6 113.g5 Nf7 114.Kg6 Ne5 115.Kg7 Bf3 116.Ra7 Bd1 117.Rc7 Kf5 118.Rc5 Kg5 119.Re5+ Kf4 120.Re1 Bf3 121.Kf6 Bd5 122.Ke7 Be4 123.Kd6 Bc2 124.Kc7 Bb3 125.Kb7 Bc2 126.Kb6 Bb3 127.Ka5 Bc2 128.Re8 Bb3 129.Re7 Bc2 130.Re1 Bb3 131.Re8 Bd1 132.Rb8 Bc2 133.Rb5 Ke4[[/pgn]
A Championship Done via Remote is IMO boring ,Ovyron wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:09 amIt's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.
As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?
supersharp77 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:41 amCould you report with a corrected PGN? this one gets hung up on the imporperly coded 4.cxd move. Claims of being abe to beat any person or program are best settied with real examples.supersharp77 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:37 amParticipantsOvyron wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:09 amIt's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.
As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?
24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz
Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz
GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz
Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz
Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used
Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)
Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz
The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC
Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....
Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn] 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 Nf6 4.cxd Nd5 5.g3 c5 6.Nf3 cxd 7.Nd5 exd 8.Nd4 Qb6 9.Nb3 Nb4+ 10.Bd2 Nc6 11.Bg2 Bd2+ 12.Qd2 O-O 13.O-O Rd8 14.Rac1 Nb4 15.a3 Na2 16.Rcd1 Qb3 17.Bd5 Rd5 18.Qd5 Qd5 19.Rd5 Be6 20.Rd2 g6 21.Rfd1 Bf8 22.Rd8+ Rd8 23.Rd8+ Ke7 24.Ra8 a6 25.f3 Nc1 26.Kf2 Nb3 27.g4 Kf6 28.h4 h6 29.Rf8 g5 30.h5 Kg7 31.Rb8 Bd5 32.Ke3 Kf6 33.Kd3 Bc6 34.Kc4 Nc1 35.e4 Ne2 36.Kd3 Nf4+ 37.Kd2 Ne6 38.Kd3 a5 39.b4 a4 40.Ke3 Nc7 41.Rg8 Bb5 42.e5+ Ke5 43.Rh8 Nd5+ 44.Kd2 Kf6 45.Rh6+ Kg7 46.Rd6 Nf4 47.Ke3 Bc6 48.Kf2 f6 49.Rd1 Bb5 50.Rd8 Bc6 51.Rb8 Kh6 52.B5 Bb5 53.Rb7 Bc4 54.Ke3 Bb3 55.Rd7 Bd5 56.Rd6 Kg7 57.Rd7+ Kh6 58.Ra7 Bb3 59.Ra6 Kg7 60.Ra5 Bc2 61.Rc5 Bd1 62.Ke4 Bb3 63.Rc7+ Kh6 64.Rd7 Bc2+ 65.Kd4 Bb3 66.Ke4 Bc2+ 67.Ke3 Bb3 68.Rd2 Bd5 69.Rc2 Ne6 70.Rf2 Nf4 71.Rc2 Nh3 72.Rc5 Nf4 73.Ra5 Bb3 74.Rf5 Kh7 75.Rc5 Rh6 76.Rc6 Kg7 77.Rc5 Bd5 78.Ra5 Bb3 79.Ra8 Bc2 80.Ra7+ Kh6 81.Ra6 Kg7 82.Ra8 Kh6 83.Rd8 Bb3 84.Rf8 Kh7 85.Ra8 Kh6 86.Rd8 Ke6 87.Ke4 Kg7 88.Rd1 Bb3 89.Rd2 Be6 90.Rd8 Bb3 91.Rd2 Be6 92.Rd1 Bb3 93.Rd7+ Kh6 94.Rd6 Bc2+ 95.Kd4 kg7 96.Rd7+ Kh6 97.Rf7 Nd5 98.Ra7 Nf4 99.Ra6 Kg7 100.h6+ Kg6 101.h7 Kh7 102.Rf6 Kg7 103.Rc6 Bb3 104.Ke5 Ng6+ 105.Ke4 Nh4 106.f4 Bd1 107.Rc5 gf 108.Kf4 Kf6 109.Rc6+ Kf7 110.Kg5 Nf3+ 111.Kh6 Ne5 112.Rc7+ Ke6 113.g5 Nf7 114.Kg6 Ne5 115.Kg7 Bf3 116.Ra7 Bd1 117.Rc7 Kf5 118.Rc5 Kg5 119.Re5+ Kf4 120.Re1 Bf3 121.Kf6 Bd5 122.Ke7 Be4 123.Kd6 Bc2 124.Kc7 Bb3 125.Kb7 Bc2 126.Kb6 Bb3 127.Ka5 Bc2 128.Re8 Bb3 129.Re7 Bc2 130.Re1 Bb3 131.Re8 Bd1 132.Rb8 Bc2 133.Rb5 Ke4[[/pgn]
Note, most of the WCCC participants do play using remote machines. Ther is something nice about meeting people in person.
Mark