MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

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MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

Post by lkaufman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:33 am

MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.
Komodo rules!

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Re: MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

Post by Marcus9 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:20 am

lkaufman wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:33 am
MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.
When the next man vs machine match?

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Re: MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

Post by lkaufman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Marcus9 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:20 am
lkaufman wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:33 am
MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.
When the next man vs machine match?
Nothing scheduled yet, we'll post here when it is.
Komodo rules!

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Re: MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

Post by Ovyron » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:50 am

Did someone reply to your challenge in the other thread?
Make someone happy today.

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Re: MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

Post by Uri Blass » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:22 am

lkaufman wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:33 am
MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.
You cannot use rating today for a match that happened when probably MVL was weaker

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Re: MVL now World number 1 in Live rapid ratings

Post by lkaufman » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:10 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:22 am
lkaufman wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:33 am
MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.
You cannot use rating today for a match that happened when probably MVL was weaker
Well, that's true, but Komodo MCTS has certainly improved more in the past year than MVL has.
Komodo rules!

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