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lkaufman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 am MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.

Marcus9 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:20 pm

lkaufman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 am MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.

When the next man vs machine match?

lkaufman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 am MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.

Uri Blass wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:22 am

lkaufman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 am MVL (Maxime Vachier-LaGrave) has moved to the world number 1 spot in the live rapid ratings, ahead of Carlsen, just a couple weeks after losing his number 1 spot to him in the blitz ratings. The relevance of this for computer chess is that less than a year ago, Komodo MCTS won a rapid (15' + 2") handicap match from MVL by 4-2, at six different handicaps averaging about 2 pawns in his favor per Komodo. So there is now some basis for claiming that Komodo MCTS even then could win a (fast) rapid match from any human in the world at these handicaps (f7 and two moves, queen for rook and knight, f2 and g2, knight for f7 pawn, exchange and a pawn (a1 and a2 for b8), and the notorious "knightmare" handicap.

You cannot use rating today for a match that happened when probably MVL was weaker