MikeB wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:37 pm
Zenmastur wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:19 am
That is a pretty nice graph! It definitely shows the latent power of AMD's new architecture. I think most people already know that INTEL's line up is lacking. Years of abusing their customers with hugely inflated prices has taken it's toll.
On a happier note: Leaked AMD Threadripper benchmarks show that early silicon 32-core parts are absolute monsters. I think we can look forward to 100M nps with a little effort. As much as I don't like spending $2K for a cpu I would for this type of performance. I might settle for a Ryzen 9 3950X @ 60+M nps for $750. I plan on keeping what ever I buy for at least 4-years so the extra $1K for an additional 40M nps doesn't look half bad.
I agree with your assessment that the 100M nps may be the best value for a new system. Although 200 M nps is within reach , but the costs appear to be 3 to 4x of 100 M nps. Would be interested in seeing your detailed list of your most likely prospective build if you don’t mind. Copying is the highest form of flattery - obviously I value your input. Thanks !
I could speculate about what I “think” is going to be available and at what prices etc. but that would make for a very long post. So, the “plain Jane” version of what I expect without too much speculation is:
1.) CPU: AMD 3nd Gen RYZEN Threadripper 3990WX 32-Core, 64-Thread, 4.4 GHz Max Boost (3.6 GHz Base), Socket sTR4 200W $1800
2.) MB: GIGABYTE X399 AORUS PRO $330 (supports 3 Nviadia GPU's or 4 AMD GPU's)
3.) RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C16Q2-128GTZKW $665
4.) GPU: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 Super WINDFORCE OC 3X 8G Graphics Card, 3 x WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6, GV-N207SWF3OC-8GD Video Card $500
5.) HDD: 2 X WD Red 10TB NAS Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM Class SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5 Inch – WD100EFAX $250 X 2 = $500
6.) SSD: 3 X Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEKNW020T8X1 $175 x 3 = $525
7.) PS: Antec HCG850 Extreme 850W Fully Modular, 80 PLUS GOLD,135mm FDB Fan, Hybrid Mode, 10 Year Warranty $135
8.) Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 SSO2 D-Type Premium CPU Cooler, NF-A15 x 2 PWM Fans $125
9.) Case: I have WAY TOO many already! But if I needed one I would choose a mesh high airflow case $150
Total cost for an all new build would be $4730. The truth be told, I already have much of what I need for this build. So for me the actual out of pocket cost would be MB and CPU. I do want a new graphics card and more memory, but I can do that any time.
You could skimp on the HDD, SDD if you are on a budget.(many people will already have HDD/SSD) If you already have RAM (even if it's slow like ddr4 2400/2666) you can make due with that until you can afford better/more. The GPU isn't too important for me. I can run Lc0 overnight to make up for a lack of speed, so even a slow GPU will work. The only reason I spec'ed a 2070 super was for the times I will want to actively analyze with NN engines.
I would expect SF to run at 106M nps or so.