I guess no serious opening book is made just translating games into book format, there's always:
a) a human selection of games
b) a human sorting of that selection (as chess opening books compilers use the First Comes First Served algorythm, so there is a hierarchy bound to the sorting in the making process)
c) a human correction of bad/weak moves
d) a human testing of the product and an evenctual following correction (points c and d repeat many times)
For these reasons the most of the books are copyrighted, even though they are free, otherwise I could just steal a statue and not getting arrested just claiming that the marble which the statue was made is just material of that mountain... nonsense.
And usually the higher the price the more work was done, except maybe for the Apple products, which is crap.
I've not knowledge of neural networks, but they could be private just if the computers with which they were made were rented, or they belonged to a private network. And there could be a hand made selection of the nodes...
Since the basic of the modern language programming courses they say that private
classes are the opposite, so what is private should not be released to the public as a base concept.
chrisw wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:43 pm
Ovyron wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:13 pm
Are you saying that it'd be fine to distribute the commercial opening chess book Goi 6.2.1 CTG (which costs $22) because the chess moves it contains and move rankings it contains can't be copyrighted?
I always thought distributing something like that would be piracy.
I understand where you are coming from because I was arguing with R de M exactly the same as you, well, sort of exactly. He made a very powerful case for there to be no copyright protection for neural net weights. Because no human hand.
If an “object“ has no copyright protection, it may be freely distributed. However A comes into physical possession of the object, A may copy and distribute it.
For your example of Goi. I have no idea. It would depend on whether there was human hand involved in its creation. If it’s a “book” created by applying an algorithm to a set of PGNs then I think the RdeM argument goes that unless there is some serious human creative selection process of the PGNs, then possibly not. Best ask a lawyer though.