A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpsed

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A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpsed

Post by Father » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:21 am

September 30, 2019.

Man against machine.

These words constitute a letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpsed through artificial intelligence.

I address these short words to you as an act of my will and gratitude from south to north, from east to west.
Gratitude for having had the opportunity to face a supercomputer who worked at a speed of 153,747KN / s.

But this time I allow myself to reference two chess games; the first of these, a confrontation of machine against machine, the power of speed and super software against that of artificial intelligence. The result has been a draw that tactically is extraordinary. Simply fascinating; the second game is the one that I as a human being faced against the super fast computer.

Finally; I dedicate the game of chess that I have played, to God, for the souls of my loved ones forever Dad and Mom.

Sincerely,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father and Grand-Father playchess user



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Re: A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpse

Post by noobpwnftw » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:39 am

I agree that computers are sometimes not very wise: opponents like the one you posted above should be given a initial rating of 4000 instead of 2400 so that normal computers like mine would be gaining points when draw. Now this rating seems totally off around 2000.
Do you mind filing this complaint along with your communications to God?

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Re: A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpse

Post by zullil » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:53 am

noobpwnftw wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:39 am
I agree that computers are sometimes not very wise: opponents like the one you posted above should be given a initial rating of 4000 instead of 2400 so that normal computers like mine would be gaining points when draw. Now this rating seems totally off around 2000.
Do you mind filing this complaint along with your communications to God?
I am puzzled by "BlueFish (8 cores): 26.8 plies; 143.650kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) Silver 4116 CPU @ 2.10GHz."

8 cores at 2.10 GHz getting 144 Mn/s?

Should that be 8 cpus? And then how many threads for BlueFish?

(I smiled at "normal computers like mine".)

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Re: A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpse

Post by noobpwnftw » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:56 am

zullil wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:53 am
noobpwnftw wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:39 am
I agree that computers are sometimes not very wise: opponents like the one you posted above should be given a initial rating of 4000 instead of 2400 so that normal computers like mine would be gaining points when draw. Now this rating seems totally off around 2000.
Do you mind filing this complaint along with your communications to God?
I am puzzled by "BlueFish (8 cores): 26.8 plies; 143.650kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) Silver 4116 CPU @ 2.10GHz."

8 cores at 2.10 GHz getting 144 Mn/s?

Should that be 8 cpus? And then how many threads for BlueFish?

(I smiled at "normal computers like mine".)
Unfortunately it seems not possible to correct the hardware information that is displayed there(it automatically took the info) while the engine is running remotely with InBetween.

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Re: A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpse

Post by MikeGL » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:46 am

Thanks for your post. You have chosen the wrong opponent, it should be Lc0 not BlueFish so you can show all of us how you can create fortresses against Lc0. Good game between Lc0 and BlueFish that you posted, it is an unusual perpetual check where more than half of the board is used for the perpetual check by Lc0. First time I saw that type of perpetual.

Your post is interesting. No, sorry, not your game only the title of your post.

p.s. Still waiting for a single game against an NN engine or any derivative, so we can see your fortress technique.
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Robert James Fischer vs Michael TalLeipzig Olympiad Final 1960 1st November 1960

Post by Father » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:01 pm

noobpwnftw wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:39 am
I agree that computers are sometimes not very wise: opponents like the one you posted above should be given a initial rating of 4000 instead of 2400 so that normal computers like mine would be gaining points when draw. Now this rating seems totally off around 2000.
Do you mind filing this complaint along with your communications to God?
nnobpwnftw.

In reality, these words that I have written, first are addressed to you. I reaffirm the sincere thanks for allowing me to play chess against his extraordinary machine.

The speed index of your computer is within the limits of the legendary deep blue. The difference between your computer and deep blue it is abysmal. Deep blue is the raw material in which a blue-colored fish is found swimming in the depyhs of unfathomable thought.

Sincerely,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father and Grand-Father playchess user


Notes:

1o The game I have posted here between computers, remmember us at Robert James Fischer vs Michael Tal Leipzig Olympiad Final 1960 1st November 1960 USA vs Soviet Union Board 1, French Defense Winawe, Retreat Variation Armenian Line (C18) It is the human being example of this game of chess at the edge of the razor.

The chess game between an AI computer driving White's game against a rigid software computer, which I have set as an example in this place and which ended in a tie for perpetual check, reminds us of the chess confrontation between Fischer against Tal . Both were examples of French defense, and both were played on the edge of a razor. The difference between these two games is in the level of depth that the two computers have deployed. It is simply an abysmal depth, which you wanted no human being has the ability to apply in his chess game. In addition, this confrontation between computers was between a rigid computer program stacked on a super fast computer against a computer with an artificial intelligence chess program it is great.

2o The only communication I have with God is and born in faith and prayer. With all pleasure, count you and your people with my prayer to the creator, whom I will pray for all the best for all of you.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to play consistently and thoroughly against AI. I could have a synthesis in

Post by Father » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:24 pm

MikeGL wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:46 am
Thanks for your post. You have chosen the wrong opponent, it should be Lc0 not BlueFish so you can show all of us how you can create fortresses against Lc0. Good game between Lc0 and BlueFish that you posted, it is an unusual perpetual check where more than half of the board is used for the perpetual check by Lc0. First time I saw that type of perpetual.

Your post is interesting. No, sorry, not your game only the title of your post.

p.s. Still waiting for a single game against an NN engine or any derivative, so we can see your fortress technique.
MikeGL, Unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to play consistently and thoroughly against AI. I could have a synthesis in my intelligence after playing numerous games against that machine which is said to be intelligent. For now I will continue to face different chess modules.There are examples of games that demostrate the extraodinary easy with which computers are defeated such as the next one that shows a shy and boring cyber rival fearful and scared of the game. Probably for this humillations its furios owner acucuses to me of öld senile." ... :shock: :( :oops: :roll:

look here: :roll: :|

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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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An interesting and fascinating chess game, which I call: "The V of vivtory."Man versus machine 2019.

Post by Father » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:09 pm

MikeGL wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:46 am
Thanks for your post. You have chosen the wrong opponent, it should be Lc0 not BlueFish so you can show all of us how you can create fortresses against Lc0. Good game between Lc0 and BlueFish that you posted, it is an unusual perpetual check where more than half of the board is used for the perpetual check by Lc0. First time I saw that type of perpetual.

Your post is interesting. No, sorry, not your game only the title of your post.

p.s. Still waiting for a single game against an NN engine or any derivative, so we can see your fortress technique.
Stockfish 260819 64 (6 cores): 30.2 plies; 10.669kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2807MHz Stockfish 260819 64 (6 cores): 30.9 plies;


An interesting and fascinating chess game, which I call: "The V of vivtory."Man versus machine 2019.

AGE LIMITS DO NO EXIST IN THE SOUL THAT DOES NOT AGE
THE RELATIVE VALUE OF CHESS ELEMENTOS.
THE OLD AN ANNOUNCING HUMAN THAT PUTS CYBER CREATION UNDER HIS FEETS.


Best regards,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father abd grand-father
playchess user


I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpse

Post by noobpwnftw » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:17 pm

MikeGL wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:46 am
Thanks for your post. You have chosen the wrong opponent, it should be Lc0 not BlueFish so you can show all of us how you can create fortresses against Lc0. Good game between Lc0 and BlueFish that you posted, it is an unusual perpetual check where more than half of the board is used for the perpetual check by Lc0. First time I saw that type of perpetual.

Your post is interesting. No, sorry, not your game only the title of your post.

p.s. Still waiting for a single game against an NN engine or any derivative, so we can see your fortress technique.
My bot doesn't seem to be particularly troubled with some "fortress techniques", provided that it loses a little more than 10 rating points per draw, but gains a lot more from those failed tries(even they only give +1 per win).

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Re: A letter of thanks and gratitude to the scientific community, they describe a door through which tomorrow is glimpse

Post by Ovyron » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:50 am

Father, I'm still waiting for your win against the machine at some 10 +10 time control, as you promised.

I'll say again that your victories against the machine are due to GUI bugs and lag. My machine can beat anybody's machine, even when they reach a mate in N position against me, if they can't play it fast enough and they lose on time, so those "wins" are meaningless.
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