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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by smatovic » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:26 am

zullil wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:59 am
bob wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:08 am
For the fastest machines around, the top two are at Oak Ridge Lab and Lawrence Livermore Labs. The NEXT two are in China...
These are the machines we know about. I'm pretty sure the NSA won't tell us where the faster machines are, and what they're already able to do. :wink:
Ever wondered what a 'Department of Energy' actually does? :)

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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by smatovic » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:32 am

duncan wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:01 am
smatovic wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:47 am


Yea, Exascale is underway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exascale_computing

The U.S. will join probably 2021 with Aurora (Intel) and Frontier (AMD).

I guess most of them will use some kind of heterogeneous computing, a CPU/GPU mix.

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If true it looks like Moore's law is being surpassed when it comes to supercomputers.
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The actual Moore's law is about doubling transistor count every two years on a chip,
no word about super computers.

Considering the new types of cpus, AMD is already 'cheating' in this context, they
put up to 8 chiplets with 8 cores each on a cpu.

Since IBMs Roadrunner from 2008 (1 Petaflop) or so, HPC uses a heterogeneous computing
approach with accelerators beside CPUs, these are harder to program, but deliver more
instruction throughput.

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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by Leo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:32 pm

Joost Buijs wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:45 am
bob wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:08 am
For the fastest machines around, the top two are at Oak Ridge Lab and Lawrence Livermore Labs. The NEXT two are in China...
That is when you count flops, the top two use a bunch of NVidia GV100 racks, maybe nice for a NN engine. The new Chinese Tianhe-3 will be operational next year and is going to surpass the IBM Summit by a factor of 5 to 6.
One bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.
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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by Leo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:34 pm

emre is on my block list for some reason.
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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by dannyb » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am

Could a chess engine running on a quantum computer be developed? I've read that probably the Grover's algorithm would be used.

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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by Emre_1974tr » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:29 pm

Google Confirms 'Quantum Supremacy' - Completes 10,000 Year Calculation In 200 Seconds

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/go ... 00-seconds

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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by jp » Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:01 am

dannyb wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am
Could a chess engine running on a quantum computer be developed? I've read that probably the Grover's algorithm would be used.
No.

See viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71167

My comments there are still true.

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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by Astatos » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:53 pm

Given Google 's history of faking scientific milestones (look AlphaZero), and engaging with pseudo-science, I have little surprise that most experts are extremely sceptical about Google' s latest PR campaign.

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Re: Google's secret computer?

Post by mjlef » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:57 pm

Astatos wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:53 pm
Given Google 's history of faking scientific milestones (look AlphaZero), and engaging with pseudo-science, I have little surprise that most experts are extremely sceptical about Google' s latest PR campaign.
Perhaps I missed something but what about AlphaZero was "faked"?

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