MikeGL wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:52 am
I am confused. If I didn't miss something from this thread, After Ng5 of white, both Nxd4 and Nd6 (on Nxa3 line) of black was already posted by Peter and both ends up in a win. So IMO, both Ng4 and Bd2 wins for white.
No, Mike, you missed Louis' fortress- line after 26...Nd6 (!) which I had to be shown by him too, my ...Nxd4 (?)- line at first glance was wrong too, thinking then it would hold. (As a matter of fact, I didn't really have one, I just made the same mistake I was smart- alecky against, trusting in an output- line with too little hardware- time and or Forward- Backward.)
is the winning line after 26...Nxd4 (?)
1r3rk1/5p1R/1qb1pPp1/3pP1N1/p1pn3P/1pP5/1P2B3/3RB2K w - - 0 6
+9.24 6. Rg7+ Kh8 7. cxd4 c3 8. Bxc3 Bb5 9. Rh7+ Kg8 10. Bg4 Qa6 11. Rg7+ Kh8 12. Rd2 a3 13. h5 a2 14. hxg6 a1=Q+ 15. Bd1 Qxd1+ 16. Rxd1 fxg6 17. Bb4 Bd3 18. Kg2 Bf1+ 19. Rxf1 Qe2+ 20. Rf2 Qh5 21. Rh7+ Qxh7 22. Nxh7 Kxh7 23. Bxf8 Rxf8 24. Kh3 Rc8 25. Rf3 Kg8 26. Kg4 Rc2 27. Rxb3 Rg2+ 28. Kf3 Rh2 29. Rb8+ Kf7 30. Rb7+ Kf8 31. Re7 Rh4 32. Ke3 g5 33. Rxe6 Rh3+ 34. Kd2 Rh4 35. Kd3 Rh3+ 36. Kc2 Re3 37. Kd2 Rf3 38. Re7 g4 39. Rg7 Ke8 40. Rxg4 Kd8 41. Ke2 Rf5 42. Rg8+ Kc7 43. Rg7+ Kc8 44. Ke3 (depth 53, 0:06:40)
On the other hand here
Louis showed that 26...Nd6 isn't White winning, it leads to a fortress.
Both lines are to be reproduced by backwarding them with enough hardware- time, for the fortress after 26...Nd6 an engine with the fortress detection code from Joseph Ellis (Crystal or Honey X6 FD) is best, especially if you want to see the 0.00 early and keep it in hash backwarding to 26.th.
Yet if anybody has any more questions to the position, ask Louis. It was his game (the one of his SF- installation back in 2014 with Lyudmil) then and it's his thread now.
He brought up all the important lines and he can help best, if anybody is still in doubt here and there in one of these lines.