1.g4 opening is losing?

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Ovyron
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Re: 1.g4 opening is losing?

Post by Ovyron » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:01 am

mmt wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:23 pm
jp wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:58 am
Do you feel ready now for a re-match CC game with Ovyron?
I think we should wait for the equivalent of contempt for SF NNUE or something else to prevent shuffling before trying this. But it would be fun to do another one :)
I'm up whenever you want :) , after NNUE (being able to analyze interactively with NNUE or Classical Eval) I estimate that my level is the one I'd have with Stockfish 11 and a 16core machine, so I didn't need to upgrade my hardware after all 8-)

I'm willing to play draw odds, if you draw with 1.g4, it's 1-0.

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Re: 1.g4 opening is losing?

Post by Alayan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:03 am

CDBCN reached -152cp after 1.g4 d5. The DB doesn't allow to easily find how many positions are present in this position's subtree, but it has kept on expanding and no good defense for white has stuck.

This doesn't exclude the possibility of one extremely precise line that would draw but gets too incorrectly evaluated early on to be expanded enough, but it behaves very much like a lost position.

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