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Re: Fritz 17

Post by chrisw » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:45 pm

Ozymandias wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:39 pm
chrisw wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:02 pm
Copyright is something that lawfully belongs to a person. A machine is not a person
But belongs to a person, a group of persons or a company.
Yes, it is not in dispute that the machine is likely the property of some ultimately human entity.

And? You snipped they rest of the posting, so your comment is in what context exactly?

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by Ovyron » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:06 pm

chrisw, are you saying I can't copyright this picture I made?

Image

Can I copyright it?

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by Dann Corbit » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:26 pm

You can own that image, but not the fractal math that made it.
Your creative input would be (I suppose) in selection of the fractal equation and in the coordinates, and in the color palate.

I do think it is not a totally cut and dried situation.

I suggest to Albert that the simple solution to the dilemma is to encrypt the file and then read it with a decryption API.
Then it is simply a trade secret.
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Re: Fritz 17

Post by chrisw » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm

Ovyron wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:06 pm
chrisw, are you saying I can't copyright this picture I made?

Image

Can I copyright it?
I don’t understand the question

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by chrisw » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:56 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:26 pm
You can own that image, but not the fractal math that made it.
Your creative input would be (I suppose) in selection of the fractal equation and in the coordinates, and in the color palate.

I do think it is not a totally cut and dried situation.

I suggest to Albert that the simple solution to the dilemma
What dilemma?

is to encrypt the file and then read it with a decryption API.
Then it is simply a trade secret.

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by Ovyron » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am

chrisw wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
I don’t understand the question
I asked if I can copyright the picture or not. That you don't know would show how you wouldn't know if Fat Fritz's weights could be copyrighted either.

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by chrisw » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:43 am

Ovyron wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am
chrisw wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
I don’t understand the question
I asked if I can copyright the picture or not. That you don't know would show how you wouldn't know if Fat Fritz's weights could be copyrighted either.
The phrase “picture I made” does not contain sufficient information to be able to answer. And all I could have done was report known legal factors, but you could look those up yourself. Anyway, as it turns out, you weren’t interested in knowing about your picture, it was instead a cipher for trying to get a personal opinion, but I don’t have a personal opinion on its legal status, the status either is or isn’t, independent of anything I might think. Hope that’s enough for you now.

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by Ozymandias » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:28 am

chrisw wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:43 am
Ovyron wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am
chrisw wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
I don’t understand the question
I asked if I can copyright the picture or not. That you don't know would show how you wouldn't know if Fat Fritz's weights could be copyrighted either.
The phrase “picture I made” does not contain sufficient information to be able to answer. And all I could have done was report known legal factors, but you could look those up yourself. Anyway, as it turns out, you weren’t interested in knowing about your picture, it was instead a cipher for trying to get a personal opinion, but I don’t have a personal opinion on its legal status, the status either is or isn’t, independent of anything I might think. Hope that’s enough for you now.
A cipher? Whatever do you mean?

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by chrisw » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 am

Ozymandias wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:28 am
chrisw wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:43 am
Ovyron wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am
chrisw wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
I don’t understand the question
I asked if I can copyright the picture or not. That you don't know would show how you wouldn't know if Fat Fritz's weights could be copyrighted either.
The phrase “picture I made” does not contain sufficient information to be able to answer. And all I could have done was report known legal factors, but you could look those up yourself. Anyway, as it turns out, you weren’t interested in knowing about your picture, it was instead a cipher for trying to get a personal opinion, but I don’t have a personal opinion on its legal status, the status either is or isn’t, independent of anything I might think. Hope that’s enough for you now.
A cipher? Whatever do you mean?
Surely you have come across the expression “a cipher for”? Rather than me long windedly explain it to you, you could endeavour to work it out from context.

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Re: Fritz 17

Post by Ozymandias » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:25 pm

chrisw wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 am
Ozymandias wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:28 am
chrisw wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:43 am
Ovyron wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am
chrisw wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
I don’t understand the question
I asked if I can copyright the picture or not. That you don't know would show how you wouldn't know if Fat Fritz's weights could be copyrighted either.
The phrase “picture I made” does not contain sufficient information to be able to answer. And all I could have done was report known legal factors, but you could look those up yourself. Anyway, as it turns out, you weren’t interested in knowing about your picture, it was instead a cipher for trying to get a personal opinion, but I don’t have a personal opinion on its legal status, the status either is or isn’t, independent of anything I might think. Hope that’s enough for you now.
A cipher? Whatever do you mean?
Surely you have come across the expression “a cipher for”? Rather than me long windedly explain it to you, you could endeavour to work it out from context.
Curious reply from the guy who can't figure out the context for quotes on his text.

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