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Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:36 am
by pohl4711
AdminX wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:16 am
Nordlandia wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:11 am
What is the difference between "Fritz17Setup_x64" and "Fritz17Setup_Win10" ?

I run on Windows 10 64-bit.
I was wondering the same thing, I have only setup and am testing the Fat Fritz Network right now. I would like to save my Fritz 17 key for now as they just renewed my Playchess subscription. Note to self turn off auto-renewal!!! :twisted:
I used the Fritz17Setup_x64.msi File and it installed the Fritz17 GUI on my system (Windows 10, Home, 64bit)

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:45 am
by Nordlandia
George Tsavdaris: yes i opted for that solution, i think it make sense that way. Also the Win10 package is slightly larger (perhaps more content for latest windows.

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:24 pm
by chrisw
crem wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:26 am
pohl4711 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:00 am
AdminX wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:53 am
Please forgive me if I missed it, but what is the size of the neural network of Fat Fritz?
It is a 256x20 Net. But the file on HDD is compressed - it can no be read by lc0 0.22.0, only by the FatFritz-Engine.exe
It's not compressed, they just changed the header for Lc0 not to be able to load it.

Lc0 v0.23 will be able to open it. Or current master can. Or you can patch this line manually:
https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/p ... 7920f0R108
Oh cool, we’ll be able to get the weights and run a battery of tests on them running in lc0 environment. Will report back on move selection and evaluation similarities and evaluation correlations. We already tested an array of lc0 nets at d=1

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:44 pm
by Werner
Can you provide a download link for the changed Master compiled (.exe)

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:47 pm
by chrisw
crem wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:26 am
pohl4711 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:00 am
AdminX wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:53 am
Please forgive me if I missed it, but what is the size of the neural network of Fat Fritz?
It is a 256x20 Net. But the file on HDD is compressed - it can no be read by lc0 0.22.0, only by the FatFritz-Engine.exe
It's not compressed, they just changed the header for Lc0 not to be able to load it.
That’s bizarre, because the ChessBase product description page says:
  • Based on the AI technology by DeepMind that created AlphaZero, Fat Fritz is a new set of custom made neural network weights that work in the open-source project Leela Chess Zero.

Lc0 v0.23 will be able to open it. Or current master can. Or you can patch this line manually:
https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/p ... 7920f0R108

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:50 pm
by chrisw
pohl4711 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:00 am
AdminX wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:53 am
Please forgive me if I missed it, but what is the size of the neural network of Fat Fritz?
It is a 256x20 Net. But the file on HDD is compressed - it can no be read by lc0 0.22.0, only by the FatFritz-Engine.exe
Is there any sort of copyright or legal note attached to the weights file(s)? Or some kind of general all-product encompassing legal notice?

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:24 pm
by Nordlandia
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Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:50 pm
by shrapnel
Thinking of buying Fritz 17.
One question. Will the current NN being used by Fat Fritz be updated ?
If so, how will it reach the Customers ?
Also, if so, will it be free Updates or will we have to pay for every updated NN ?

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:54 pm
by mclane
It is free with lots of bugs.

Re: Fritz 17

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:09 pm
by AdminX
shrapnel wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:50 pm
Thinking of buying Fritz 17.
One question. Will the current NN being used by Fat Fritz be updated ?
If so, how will it reach the Customers ?
Also, if so, will it be free Updates or will we have to pay for every updated NN ?
According to Chessbase, the answer is yes.

"Important note: While Fat Fritz is already incredibly strong, its development is not over, and over the next months, owners of Fritz 17 will enjoy upgrades to the neural network."

https://en.chessbase.com/post/fritz-17- ... nd-goodies