a test position for positional understanding

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Uri Blass
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a test position for positional understanding

Post by Uri Blass »

[d]r1bqk1nr/pppp2pp/2n5/2b1pp2/2B1P3/2N2N2/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK2R w KQkq f6 0 5 bm d4

One of the children that I teach chess played f5 and does not understand why it is a bad move.

I told him that black will have a problem to castle short because of bishop c4 but he said that he wanted to castle long and attack the white king that is going to castle short.

I analyzed it by stockfish and stockfish suggest relatively fast the move d4 at depth 19.
For comparison houdini3 can find the move only after a deep search at depth 25.

FEN: r1bqk1nr/pppp2pp/2n5/2b1pp2/2B1P3/2N2N2/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK2R w KQkq f6 0 5

Houdini_3_x64:
4/15 00:00 4k 1,353k +0.63 5.0-0 Nf6 6.b4 Nxb4 7.Nxe5 d5 8.exd5 Nbxd5 9.Nxd5 Nxd5
4/18 00:00 5k 1,583k +0.76 5.Na4 d6 6.Nxc5 dxc5 7.d3 Nf6 8.Ng5
5/18 00:00 6k 1,378k +0.76 5.Na4 d6 6.Nxc5 dxc5 7.d3 Nf6 8.Ng5
6/20 00:00 16k 1,335k -0.29 5.Na4 Bxf2+ 6.Kxf2 fxe4 7.Ng1 d5 8.Qh5+ g6
6/20 00:00 22k 1,307k +0.68 5.0-0 d6 6.d3 Nf6 7.Ng5 Qe7
6/22 00:00 42k 1,538k +1.07 5.d3 Nf6 6.Ng5 d5 7.Nxd5 Ng4
7/22 00:00 48k 1,512k +0.90 5.d3 Nf6 6.Ng5 Rf8 7.exf5 d5 8.Bxd5 Bxf5
8/22 00:00 53k 1,507k +0.99 5.d3 Nf6 6.Ng5 Rf8 7.Nxh7 Rh8 8.Ng5 d6 9.Bf7+ Kf8 10.exf5 Bxf5
9/22+ 00:00 79k 1,645k +1.09 5.d3
9/22 00:00 86k 1,661k +1.21 5.d3 Nf6 6.Ng5 Rf8 7.Nxh7 Rh8 8.Nxf6+ gxf6 9.exf5 b6 10.h4 Nd4
10/24- 00:00 119k 1,770k +1.10 5.d3 Nf6
10/25- 00:00 203k 2,028k +0.88 5.d3 fxe4
10/29 00:00 319k 2,364k +0.57 5.d3 fxe4 6.dxe4 Nf6 7.0-0 Rf8 8.Bg5 d6 9.Nd5 Bd7 10.c3 Na5 11.Bxf6 gxf6
10/29 00:00 394k 2,404k +0.70 5.0-0 d6 6.d3 f4 7.Na4 Bb6 8.Nxb6 axb6 9.Bd2 Nf6 10.Ng5
11/29+ 00:00 496k 2,396k +0.81 5.0-0
11/29 00:00 515k 2,394k +0.76 5.0-0 d6 6.d3 Na5 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.exf5 Nc6 9.Bg5 Qd7 10.Nd5 Qf7
11/37+ 00:00 635k 2,434k +1.03 5.exf5
11/37- 00:00 725k 2,481k +0.61 5.exf5 Nf6
11/37 00:00 725k 2,481k +0.76 5.0-0 d6 6.d3 Na5 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.exf5 Nc6 9.Bg5 Qd7 10.Nd5 Qf7
12/37+ 00:00 904k 2,589k +0.87 5.0-0
12/37 00:00 973k 2,622k +0.76 5.0-0 d6 6.d3 f4 7.Na4 Bb6 8.Nxb6 axb6 9.Bd2 Nf6 10.Ng5 Qe7 11.Bf7+ Kd8 12.Bc4
12/37+ 00:00 1,819k 3,072k +1.09 5.d3
12/37 00:00 2,042k 3,117k +1.13 5.d3 fxe4 6.Nxe5 Bxf2+ 7.Kxf2 Nxe5 8.Qh5+ Ng6 9.Nxe4 N8e7 10.Bg5 Rf8+ 11.Kg1 d5 12.Bxe7 Qxe7 13.Qxd5 Ne5 14.Bb5+ c6 15.Nd6+ Kd8 16.Nxb7+ Kc7
13/37- 00:00 2,438k 3,207k +1.03 5.d3 fxe4
13/37- 00:00 2,798k 3,260k +0.81 5.d3 fxe4
13/37 00:00 3,176k 3,301k +0.83 5.d3 fxe4 6.Nxe5 Qh4 7.g3 Qf6 8.Ng4 Qf3 9.Qxf3 exf3 10.Nb5 Bb6 11.Be3 Ba5+ 12.Bd2 Bb6 13.Bd5 a6 14.Nc3 d6 15.Ne3
14/38+ 00:01 4,055k 3,428k +0.94 5.d3
14/39 00:01 5,375k 3,550k +0.75 5.d3 fxe4 6.dxe4 Nf6 7.Ng5 Rf8 8.0-0 d6 9.h3 Na5 10.Be2 Nc6 11.Na4 Bb6 12.Nxb6 axb6 13.c3 Bd7 14.a4
15/39+ 00:02 7,959k 3,662k +0.86 5.d3
15/39 00:02 8,571k 3,700k +0.74 5.d3 fxe4 6.dxe4 Nf6 7.Ng5 Rf8 8.0-0 d6 9.h3 Na5 10.Be2 Nc6 11.Nd5 Nxd5 12.exd5 Nd4 13.Nxh7 Nxe2+ 14.Qxe2 Rf5 15.Be3 Bxe3 16.fxe3
16/41+ 00:04 15,993k 3,917k +0.85 5.d3
16/45+ 00:04 18,490k 3,940k +1.07 5.d3
16/57 00:11 45,321k 4,094k +0.69 5.d3 Nf6 6.Bg5 f4 7.Nh4 g6 8.Nf5 Bxf2+ 9.Kxf2 gxf5 10.exf5 h5 11.Nd5 Ng4+ 12.Qxg4 hxg4 13.Bxd8 Kxd8 14.f6 Nd4 15.c3 Nc2
17/57 00:15 65,445k 4,119k +0.68 5.d3 Nf6 6.Ng5 Qe7 7.exf5 Nd4 8.Bf7+ Kd8 9.Bb3 Rf8 10.Nge4 h6 11.Nxc5 Qxc5 12.Be3 Qc6 13.0-0 Nxf5 14.d4 Qb6 15.Na4 Qb5 16.Re1 Ne4 17.Nc3 Nxc3 18.bxc3 Nxe3 19.Rxe3
17/57+ 00:16 68,553k 4,114k +0.80 5.0-0
17/57 00:19 79,553k 4,110k +0.64 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 c5 9.Bg5 h5 10.Bd3 d6 11.exf5 Nxf5 12.Re1 Be6 13.Bxf6 gxf6 14.Qf3 Qc8 15.Be4 Rh7 16.Rad1 Qd7
17/57 00:19 79,553k 4,110k +0.68 5.d3 Nf6 6.Ng5 Qe7 7.exf5 Nd4 8.Bf7+ Kd8 9.Bb3 Rf8 10.Nge4 h6 11.Nxc5 Qxc5 12.Be3 Qc6 13.0-0 Nxf5 14.d4 Qb6 15.Na4 Qb5 16.Re1 Ne4 17.Nc3 Nxc3 18.bxc3 Nxe3 19.Rxe3
17/57+ 00:22 94,158k 4,126k +1.01 5.Bxg8
other best move - reduce depth to 14
14/57 00:23 97,156k 4,125k +0.82 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 fxe4 8.Ng5 Rh8 9.Nxe4 Be7 10.Bg5 d6 11.Qh5+ Kd7 12.Bxe7 Nxe7 13.Rd1 Rf8 14.Rxd4 Qe8 15.Qg4+ Kd8 16.Qh4 Be6 17.0-0 Bxd5 18.Rxd5 Qf7
15/57 00:23 97,470k 4,123k +0.86 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 fxe4 8.Ng5 g6 9.Bf4 d6 10.Nxe4 Bf5 11.Nef6+ Kf7 12.0-0 Kg7 13.Nxg8 Qxg8 14.Nxc7 Rc8 15.Nb5 Qc4 16.Nxd6 Bxd6 17.Bxd6 Bxc2 18.Qg4 Bf5 19.Qf4
16/57+ 00:23 97,913k 4,121k +0.97 5.Bxg8
16/57 00:24 101,338k 4,119k +1.09 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 Rf8 8.Bg5 Be7 9.Nxe7 Nxe7 10.Qxd4 h6 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 12.0-0 c5 13.Qc4 fxe4 14.Rae1 d5 15.Qxd5 Bf5 16.h3 Rd8 17.Qc4 Kd7 18.Nd2
17/57+ 00:27 112,901k 4,100k +1.20 5.Bxg8
17/57- 00:30 127,558k 4,121k +0.99 5.Bxg8 Rxg8
17/61 00:33 136,758k 4,127k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qg5 15.Qxg5 hxg5 16.Nbd3 g4 17.Nxc5+ dxc5 18.Bf4 Rf8 19.Bg3 Rae8 20.Nd3 Rf5 21.Rfd1 b6 22.Rac1 Bd5 23.c3 dxc3 24.Rxc3 g5 25.Nc1
18/61 00:34 140,889k 4,132k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qg5 15.Qxg5 hxg5 16.Nbd3 g4 17.Nxc5+ dxc5 18.Bf4 Rf8 19.Bg3 Rae8 20.Nd3 Rf5 21.Rfd1 b6 22.Rac1 Bd5 23.c3 dxc3 24.Rxc3 g5 25.Nc1
19/61 00:38 159,636k 4,152k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qg5 15.Qxg5 hxg5 16.Nbd3 g4 17.Nxc5+ dxc5 18.Bf4 Rf8 19.Bg3 Rae8 20.Nd3 Rf5 21.Rfd1 b6 22.Rac1 Bd5 23.c3 dxc3 24.Rxc3 g5 25.Nc1
20/61 00:53 224,850k 4,232k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qg5 15.Qxg5 hxg5 16.Nbd3 g4 17.Nxc5+ dxc5 18.Bf4 Rf8 19.Bg3 Rae8 20.Nd3 Rf5 21.Rfd1 b6 22.Rac1 Bd5 23.c3 dxc3 24.Rxc3 g5 25.Nc1
21/61 01:23 355,317k 4,236k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qh4 15.Nbd3 Bb6 16.a4 c5 17.a5 Bc7 18.f3 Bc6 19.a6 b5 20.Nf4 Qe7 21.Qd3 g5 22.Qf5+ Kd8 23.Nd5 Qe5
22/61 01:56 501,780k 4,290k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qh4 15.Nbd3 Bb6 16.a4 c5 17.a5 Bc7 18.f3 Bc6 19.a6 b5 20.Nf4 Qe7 21.Qd3 g5 22.Qf5+ Kd8 23.Nd5 Qe5
23/61 02:44 711,546k 4,312k +1.07 5.Bxg8 Rxg8 6.d4 exd4 7.Nd5 h6 8.0-0 d6 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.b4 Nxb4 11.Qe1+ Kd7 12.Nxb4 Re8 13.Qd2 Be4 14.Ne1 Qh4 15.Nbd3 Bb6 16.a4 c5 17.a5 Bc7 18.f3 Bc6 19.a6 b5 20.Nf4 Qe7 21.Qd3 g5 22.Qf5+ Kd8 23.Nd5 Qe5
24/61- 05:07 1,359,008k 4,423k +0.97 5.Bxg8 Rxg8
24/64- 11:14 3,053,443k 4,524k +0.75 5.Bxg8 Rxg8
24/71 21:48 5,934,846k 4,536k +0.89 5.Nxe5 Nxe5 6.Bxg8 Bd4 7.Nb5 Bxf2+ 8.Kxf2 a6 9.d4 Ng4+ 10.Kg3 Rxg8 11.Nc3 d6 12.exf5 Nf6 13.Qf3 Qd7 14.Rf1 g6 15.fxg6 Rxg6+ 16.Kf2 Qg4 17.Qxg4 Bxg4 18.Kg1 Kd7 19.Bg5 Rf8 20.Bxf6 Rgxf6 21.Rxf6 Rxf6 22.Nd5 Rf8 23.Re1 Be6
25/71 32:42 8,865,856k 4,517k +0.82 5.Nxe5 Nxe5 6.Bxg8 Bd4 7.Nb5 Bxf2+ 8.Kxf2 a6 9.d4 Ng4+ 10.Kg3 Rxg8 11.Nc3 d5 12.h3 Nf6 13.exd5 Kf7 14.Re1 Rf8 15.Qf3 b5 16.a3 Kg8 17.Kh2 Ne4 18.Nxe4 fxe4 19.Qxe4 Bf5 20.Qe5 Bxc2 21.Bg5 Qd7 22.Qe6+ Rf7 23.Rac1 Bb3 24.Rc5 Raf8 25.Be7 Qxe6 26.Rxe6
25/71+ 42:06 11,519,204k 4,559k +1.00 5.d4
25/71+ 44:19 12,073,438k 4,539k +1.22 5.d4
other best move - reduce depth to 22
22/71 45:50 12,446,283k 4,524k +1.62 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.Bxf6 Bxf6 9.exf5 d6 10.Qe2+ Kf8 11.g4 Ne5 12.0-0-0 Nxf3 13.Qxf3 h5 14.Nxf6 Qxf6 15.h3 c6 16.Kb1 Bd7 17.Qa3 hxg4 18.hxg4 Rxh1 19.Rxh1 Re8 20.Qa5 d5 21.Bd3 Kg8 22.f3 Qd6 23.Qxa7 Qf4 24.Qxb7 Qxf3 25.Rc1
23/71+ 47:31 12,866,588k 4,512k +1.75 5.d4
23/71+ 51:06 13,780,326k 4,494k +1.99 5.d4
23/71 51:47 13,971,739k 4,496k +1.81 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.0-0 fxe4 9.Re1 Nxd5 10.Bxd5 e3 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 12.Nxd4 Nxd4 13.Qxd4 Kd8 14.Rxe3 Qf6 15.Qc4 c6 16.Bf3 Rf8 17.Rae1 a5 18.Re7 d6 19.a3 Qxe7 20.Rxe7 Kxe7 21.Qh4+ Kf7 22.Qxh7 Kf6 23.Be4 Rf7 24.Bg6 Re7 25.Qh4+ Ke6 26.Qf4
24/71 53:50 14,511,757k 4,492k +1.81 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.0-0 fxe4 9.Re1 Nxd5 10.Bxd5 e3 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 12.Nxd4 Nxd4 13.Qxd4 Kd8 14.Rxe3 Qf6 15.Qc4 c6 16.Bf3 Rf8 17.Rae1 a5 18.Re7 d6 19.a3 Qxe7 20.Rxe7 Kxe7 21.Qh4+ Kf7 22.Qxh7 Kf6 23.Be4 Rf7 24.Bg6 Re7 25.Qh4+ Ke6 26.Qf4
25/71 57:32 15,539,018k 4,501k +1.81 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.0-0 fxe4 9.Re1 Nxd5 10.Bxd5 e3 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 12.Nxd4 Nxd4 13.Qxd4 Kd8 14.Rxe3 Qf6 15.Qc4 c6 16.Bf3 Rf8 17.Rae1 a5 18.Re7 d6 19.a3 Qxe7 20.Rxe7 Kxe7 21.Qh4+ Kf7 22.Qxh7 Kf6 23.Be4 Rf7 24.Bg6 Re7 25.Qh4+ Ke6 26.Qf4

stockfish for comparison need only few seconds to suggest 5.d4 at depth 19.


Stockfish_19121008_x64_modern:
1/1 00:00 174 87k +1.91 5.d3
2/2 00:00 422 211k +5.35 5.Na4 fxe4
3/3 00:00 580 290k +5.35 5.Na4 fxe4 6.Nxc5
4/4 00:00 2k 601k +2.23 5.d3 f4 6.Nd2 d6
5/5 00:00 2k 784k +2.27 5.d3 f4 6.g3 d6 7.gxf4
6/6 00:00 4k 931k +2.61 5.d3 f4 6.Nb5 d6
7/12 00:00 9k 1,243k +4.48 5.d3 f4 6.Nxe5 Nxe5 7.Qh5+ Ng6 8.Qxc5
8/11 00:00 35k 1,665k +2.72 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nb5 Nf6 7.Nfxd4 Nxd4 8.Nxd4 exd4 9.Qxd4
9/9 00:00 37k 1,623k +2.72 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nb5 Nf6 7.Nfxd4 Nxd4 8.Nxd4 exd4 9.Qxd4
10/17 00:00 129k 1,931k +2.15 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Nxd4 7.Nxe5 Qe7 8.Nf7 d5 9.Bxd5 0-0 10.Be3 Nxd5 11.Nxd5 Qxe4
11/22 00:00 194k 2,110k +2.38 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Nxd4 7.Nxe5 Qe7 8.Nf7 0-0 9.e5 Rxf7 10.exf6 gxf6
12/18 00:00 266k 2,201k +2.48 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Nxd4 7.Nxe5 Qe7 8.Nf7 0-0 9.e5 Rxf7 10.exf6 Qxf6 11.Be3 g6 12.Nd5
13/24 00:00 653k 2,357k +2.44 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 Nc6 9.Bg5 h5 10.exf5 h4 11.Bxf6 Qxf6 12.Nd5 Qd6 13.Qd3 Kf8
14/26 00:00 1,178k 2,491k +2.58 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 Nc6 9.Bg5 h6 10.Bxf6 Qxf6 11.Nd5 Qd6 12.exf5 h5 13.Re1 a5 14.Re3
15/29 00:00 1,928k 2,441k +2.00 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 Nc6 9.Bg5 h6 10.Bxf6 Qxf6 11.Nd5 Qd6 12.exf5 b5 13.Qh5+ Kd8 14.Bb3 Bb7 15.a4 Nd4 16.Ne3 Bc6 17.Qg4 Qf6 18.Nd5 Qxf5
16/33 00:00 2,144k 2,425k +2.12 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 Nc6 9.Bg5 h6 10.Bxf6 Qxf6 11.Nd5 Qd6 12.exf5 b5 13.Qh5+ Kd8 14.Bb3 Bb7 15.c3 a5 16.Rad1 a4 17.Ne3 Qf6 18.Bd5
17/30 00:00 2,398k 2,412k +2.41 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 Nc6 9.Bg5 f4 10.Bxf6 Qxf6 11.Nd5 Qd6 12.Qh5+ g6 13.Qh4 Rf8 14.Rad1 f3 15.c3 Ne7 16.Ne3 fxg2 17.Kxg2
18/37 00:01 3,710k 2,510k +2.24 5.0-0 Nf6 6.d4 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxd4 8.Be3 Nc6 9.Bg5 h6 10.Bxf6 Qxf6 11.Nd5 Qd6 12.exf5 b5 13.Qh5+ Kd8 14.Bb3 Bb7 15.c3 Ne7 16.Ne3 Qf6 17.a4 bxa4 18.Bxa4 c6 19.Bc2 Kc7 20.Qe2
19/37 00:02 5,279k 2,558k +2.46 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 fxe4 7.0-0 Nf6 8.Re1 Nxd5 9.Bxd5 e3 10.Nxd4 Bxd4 11.Bxe3 Be5 12.Bxc6 0-0 13.Qd5+ Rf7 14.Qxe5 dxc6 15.Bg5 Qd7
20/32 00:02 6,661k 2,585k +3.01 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Nxf6+ Qxf6 8.Bg5 Qf8 9.exf5 h6 10.Bh4 d5 11.Qe2+ Ne7 12.Bxd5 Bd7 13.0-0 0-0-0 14.Be6 Bxe6 15.Qxe6+ Rd7 16.Bxe7 Qxe7 17.Rae1 Qd6
21/36+ 00:03 7,994k 2,608k +3.01 5.d4
21/36+ 00:03 9,236k 2,628k +3.19 5.d4
21/36- 00:03 9,985k 2,632k +2.77 5.d4 exd4
21/36+ 00:03 10,202k 2,634k +3.10 5.d4
21/36 00:04 11,082k 2,641k +3.07 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Bxg8 Rxg8 7.Bg5 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 Ne7 9.Nxe5 Kf8 10.exf5 d6 11.0-0 Qe8 12.f6 gxf6 13.Bh6+ Rg7 14.Bxg7+ Kxg7 15.Nd3 Nc6 16.Rb1 Ne5 17.Re1 c6 18.Nxe5
22/31- 00:04 11,904k 2,647k +2.86 5.d4 exd4
22/32+ 00:04 12,896k 2,653k +3.07 5.d4
22/33+ 00:05 14,473k 2,663k +3.24 5.d4
22/33 00:05 14,620k 2,664k +3.00 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.Bxf6 Bxf6 9.exf5 d6 10.Qe2+ Kf8 11.g4 Ne5 12.0-0-0 b5 13.Nxf6 bxc4 14.Nxe5 Qxf6 15.Nc6 Bd7 16.Nxd4 Re8 17.Qd2 c5 18.Ne6+ Bxe6 19.Qxd6+ Kg8
23/40- 00:06 17,047k 2,675k +2.88 5.d4 exd4
23/42+ 00:07 18,871k 2,681k +3.00 5.d4
23/46+ 00:07 20,617k 2,689k +3.16 5.d4
23/46+ 00:08 22,658k 2,694k +3.40 5.d4
23/46 00:08 22,713k 2,693k +3.09 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.Bxf6 Bxf6 9.exf5 d6 10.Qe2+ Kf8 11.g4 d3 12.cxd3 h5 13.g5 Bxg5 14.Rg1 Bf6 15.Qe4 Ne5 16.Nxe5 Bxe5 17.0-0-0 c6 18.Nf4 Bxf4+ 19.Qxf4 h4
24/43+ 00:09 25,270k 2,690k +3.22 5.d4
24/43+ 00:10 27,581k 2,692k +3.34 5.d4
24/45 00:10 28,253k 2,689k +3.32 5.d4 exd4 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.Bxf6 Bxf6 9.exf5 d6 10.Qe2+ Kf8 11.g4 Ne5 12.Nxd4 Nxc4 13.Qxc4 Bxd4 14.Qxd4 c6 15.Nf4 Qf6 16.0-0-0 Qxd4 17.Rxd4 d5 18.c4 Kf7 19.Re1 dxc4 20.Ne6 Bxe6 21.fxe6+ Kg6 22.e7
25/40- 00:11 30,364k 2,692k +3.20 5.d4 exd4
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Re: a test position for positional understanding

Post by Ovyron »

At the human level I don't understand what's happening, is some human expected to find d4 on the board and follow Stockfish's line? If not, learning about d4 is useless.

As someone that has been beating much stronger opposition with the f5! idea, I'd tell the student about Na4! Which just destroys any black's ideas because black's dark Bishop is critical to the attack.

2 important lesson about this:

1. f5 is bad if you haven't played d6 so the light Bishop can recapture it in case of exf4.

2. You need the dark Bishop on this diagonal to perform the attack, so if white has played Nc3 then you should play a6 so the Bishop can move to a7 in case of Na4.

Only then f5's plan does work, and you can even play f4 to lock white's position (in the games where black has the advantage it doesn't need to castle.) Don't teach your students about a specific position, but general concepts that are useful in the kinds of positions they like to play.