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JohnW
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Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by JohnW » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:42 pm

I thought I would share the strange behavior Fritz 17's tournament feature has displayed for me over the past week or so.
The other day I ran a small Swiss tournament and let it run while I was doing other things. I came back later to check on the results and the winner of the tournament had played only 2 engines in a 4 cycle event, playing one of them 3 times in a row. Winning all 3 times.

Then this morning I setup a small knockout tournament. It ran fine for a while and then I looked over and one of the engines is playing itself in a knockout tournament??! :shock:

Anyway, just thought I would pass this info along to anyone considering the purchase of Fritz 17..

Albert Silver
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by Albert Silver » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:57 pm

JohnW wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:42 pm
I thought I would share the strange behavior Fritz 17's tournament feature has displayed for me over the past week or so.
The other day I ran a small Swiss tournament and let it run while I was doing other things. I came back later to check on the results and the winner of the tournament had played only 2 engines in a 4 cycle event, playing one of them 3 times in a row. Winning all 3 times.

Then this morning I setup a small knockout tournament. It ran fine for a while and then I looked over and one of the engines is playing itself in a knockout tournament??! :shock:

Anyway, just thought I would pass this info along to anyone considering the purchase of Fritz 17..
If you ran into a bug and it is reproducible, you should report it to ChessBase (info@chessbase.com).
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."

JohnW
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by JohnW » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:18 pm

Albert Silver wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:57 pm
JohnW wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:42 pm
I thought I would share the strange behavior Fritz 17's tournament feature has displayed for me over the past week or so.
The other day I ran a small Swiss tournament and let it run while I was doing other things. I came back later to check on the results and the winner of the tournament had played only 2 engines in a 4 cycle event, playing one of them 3 times in a row. Winning all 3 times.

Then this morning I setup a small knockout tournament. It ran fine for a while and then I looked over and one of the engines is playing itself in a knockout tournament??! :shock:

Anyway, just thought I would pass this info along to anyone considering the purchase of Fritz 17..
If you ran into a bug and it is reproducible, you should report it to ChessBase (info@chessbase.com).
Yes, I sent an email to their support department for both issues.

mwyoung
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by mwyoung » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:29 pm

Albert Silver wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:57 pm
JohnW wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:42 pm
I thought I would share the strange behavior Fritz 17's tournament feature has displayed for me over the past week or so.
The other day I ran a small Swiss tournament and let it run while I was doing other things. I came back later to check on the results and the winner of the tournament had played only 2 engines in a 4 cycle event, playing one of them 3 times in a row. Winning all 3 times.

Then this morning I setup a small knockout tournament. It ran fine for a while and then I looked over and one of the engines is playing itself in a knockout tournament??! :shock:

Anyway, just thought I would pass this info along to anyone considering the purchase of Fritz 17..
If you ran into a bug and it is reproducible, you should report it to ChessBase (info@chessbase.com).
My fritz 17 just had a update to 6 not long ago. I have not seen any issues in Engine matches, or Tournament matches. And I run them 24/7. Maybe something got broke on his update?
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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carldaman
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by carldaman » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:03 am

By the way, what is the download link for the Fritz GUI updates, does anybody know?
(I know you can also update straight through the GUI if you have a live internet connection)

For CB updates, I can use a download link such as:

http://download.chessbase.com/updates/C ... x64_18.txt

where I can replace the '18' with whatever the latest update number is.

I'm not sure what the corresponding link would be for Fritz updates.

thanks,
Carl

mwyoung
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by mwyoung » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:10 am

carldaman wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:03 am
By the way, what is the download link for the Fritz GUI updates, does anybody know?
(I know you can also update straight through the GUI if you have a live internet connection)

For CB updates, I can use a download link such as:

http://download.chessbase.com/updates/C ... x64_18.txt

where I can replace the '18' with whatever the latest update number is.

I'm not sure what the corresponding link would be for Fritz updates.

thanks,
Carl
The GUI itself lets my know about updates. And I use the GUI to update. Click file, activation, update program. At the top left header.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
take on me. Foes 0.

carldaman
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by carldaman » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:30 am

mwyoung wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:10 am
carldaman wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:03 am
By the way, what is the download link for the Fritz GUI updates, does anybody know?
(I know you can also update straight through the GUI if you have a live internet connection)

For CB updates, I can use a download link such as:

http://download.chessbase.com/updates/C ... x64_18.txt

where I can replace the '18' with whatever the latest update number is.

I'm not sure what the corresponding link would be for Fritz updates.

thanks,
Carl
The GUI itself lets my know about updates. And I use the GUI to update. Click file, activation, update program. At the top left header.
Thanks, I do the same here, but I also have computers that are offline. Having the update file itself is really useful if reinstalling all the software later on a rebuilt box.

cc2150dx
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by cc2150dx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:56 pm

carldaman wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:03 am
By the way, what is the download link for the Fritz GUI updates, does anybody know?
(I know you can also update straight through the GUI if you have a live internet connection)

For CB updates, I can use a download link such as:

http://download.chessbase.com/updates/C ... x64_18.txt

where I can replace the '18' with whatever the latest update number is.

I'm not sure what the corresponding link would be for Fritz updates.

thanks,
Carl
Here's the newest updates:

http://download.chessbase.com/updates/G ... x86_6.txt
http://download.chessbase.com/updates/G ... x64_6.txt
http://download.chessbase.com/updates/G ... n10_6.txt
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carldaman
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by carldaman » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:03 pm

Thanks a lot cc, that's exactly what I was looking for!

cc2150dx
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Re: Fritz 17 - Buyer beware..

Post by cc2150dx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:27 pm

carldaman wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:03 pm
Thanks a lot cc, that's exactly what I was looking for!
You're welcome :D
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