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Nordlandia
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Fat Fritz update

Post by Nordlandia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:59 am

v1.1 is available in Fritz 17!

I wounder how much it has improved since last version.

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Ozymandias
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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by Ozymandias » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:37 am

One thing is for sure, there's a lot of wiggle room:

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1  Lc0 0.23.2k t40-1541 (20x256)  : 3604 300 (+171,=  0,-129), 57.0 %
2  Lc0 0.23.2k LS 13 (20x256)     : 3597 300 (+168,=  0,-132), 56.0 %
3  Lc0 0.23.1k LS 12.2 (20x256)   : 3593 300 (+166,=  0,-134), 55.3 %
4  Lc0 0.23.3k 62507 (24x320)     : 3590 300 (+165,=  0,-135), 55.0 %
5  Lc0 0.23.2k 62131 (24x320)     : 3583 300 (+162,=  0,-138), 54.0 %
6  Lc0 0.23.1 LS 12.2 (20x256)    : 3562 300 (+153,=  0,-147), 51.0 %
***************** Stockfish 191210: 3555 SPCC-Elo *******************
7  Lc0 0.23.1 t40-1705 (30x384)   : 3548 300 (+147,=  0,-153), 49.0 %
8  Lc0 0.23.1 42741 (20x256)      : 3541 300 (+144,=  0,-156), 48.0 %
9  Lc0 0.23.1 61894 (24x320)      : 3529 300 (+139,=  0,-161), 46.3 %
9  Lc0 0.23.1 J13B.2-200 (24x320) : 3529 300 (+139,=  0,-161), 46.3 %
11 Lc0 0.23.3k 591226 (10x128)    : 3482 300 (+119,=  0,-181), 39.7 %
12 Fat Fritz 1.0 (20x256)         : 3477 300 (+117,=  0,-183), 39.0 %


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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by bmp1974 » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:02 am

The latest update is Fat Fritz 1.1 with changes to Cpuct, Fpu, Policy temp, NN cache and couple of others.
Tests are required to see where it stands.

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by Nordlandia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:35 am

bmp1974 wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:02 am
The latest update is Fat Fritz 1.1 with changes to Cpuct, Fpu, Policy temp, NN cache and couple of others.
Tests are required to see where it stands.
Question is whether Kiudee settings work with Fat Fritz 🤔

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by jp » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:17 am

My question is whether it can pass this test position:

1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - -


It failed very badly when Peter tested it last year.

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by JohnW » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:55 am

Where do you download it? I don't see any mechanism within the Fritz 17 gui to update a specific engine.

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by Albert Silver » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:14 pm

JohnW wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:55 am
Where do you download it? I don't see any mechanism within the Fritz 17 gui to update a specific engine.
I know, and have no control over it. Assuming you already installed Fat Fritz in it, when you open the GUI at the bottom right you will see a pop-up asking you if you want to download an update for Fat Fritz.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by Albert Silver » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:16 pm

Nordlandia wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:35 am
bmp1974 wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:02 am
The latest update is Fat Fritz 1.1 with changes to Cpuct, Fpu, Policy temp, NN cache and couple of others.
Tests are required to see where it stands.
Question is whether Kiudee settings work with Fat Fritz 🤔
Better than that: I ran Kiudee's tuner for 7 straight days on it to find its own 'Kiudee' settings.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by JohnW » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:00 pm

Albert Silver wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:14 pm
JohnW wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:55 am
Where do you download it? I don't see any mechanism within the Fritz 17 gui to update a specific engine.
I know, and have no control over it. Assuming you already installed Fat Fritz in it, when you open the GUI at the bottom right you will see a pop-up asking you if you want to download an update for Fat Fritz.
Thanks, I had to open and close Fritz a couple of times before the update showed up.

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Re: Fat Fritz update

Post by pohl4711 » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:39 pm

Ozymandias wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:37 am
One thing is for sure, there's a lot of wiggle room:

Code: Select all

1  Lc0 0.23.2k t40-1541 (20x256)  : 3604 300 (+171,=  0,-129), 57.0 %
2  Lc0 0.23.2k LS 13 (20x256)     : 3597 300 (+168,=  0,-132), 56.0 %
3  Lc0 0.23.1k LS 12.2 (20x256)   : 3593 300 (+166,=  0,-134), 55.3 %
4  Lc0 0.23.3k 62507 (24x320)     : 3590 300 (+165,=  0,-135), 55.0 %
5  Lc0 0.23.2k 62131 (24x320)     : 3583 300 (+162,=  0,-138), 54.0 %
6  Lc0 0.23.1 LS 12.2 (20x256)    : 3562 300 (+153,=  0,-147), 51.0 %
***************** Stockfish 191210: 3555 SPCC-Elo *******************
7  Lc0 0.23.1 t40-1705 (30x384)   : 3548 300 (+147,=  0,-153), 49.0 %
8  Lc0 0.23.1 42741 (20x256)      : 3541 300 (+144,=  0,-156), 48.0 %
9  Lc0 0.23.1 61894 (24x320)      : 3529 300 (+139,=  0,-161), 46.3 %
9  Lc0 0.23.1 J13B.2-200 (24x320) : 3529 300 (+139,=  0,-161), 46.3 %
11 Lc0 0.23.3k 591226 (10x128)    : 3482 300 (+119,=  0,-181), 39.7 %
12 Fat Fritz 1.0 (20x256)         : 3477 300 (+117,=  0,-183), 39.0 %

At the moment, I am doing the Leelenstein 14 testrun for my small performance-list, you posted here. In around 4 days, the testrun should end, then Fat Fritz 1.1 will be the next testrun (need 6 days...) So, if all works well, the result of Fat Fritz 1.1 should go online in 10-11 days from now on my website.

https://www.sp-cc.de/nn-longtime-testing.htm

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