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Rebel
Posts: 6997Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:43 pm
Minic 2.50 +89 on SRL 1000ms
Code: Select all
EPD : epd\lc1.epd
Time : 1000ms
Max Time Hash
Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors
1 Stockfish 12 341638 11:34:09.7 25383 40000 3416 400000 85.41% 1000 128 1 0
2 Rubi 1.8 NNUE 328244 11:30:21.7 23651 40000 3282 400000 82.06% 1000 128 1 0
3 Minic 2.50 NNUE 322147 11:06:22.6 22986 40000 3221 400000 80.54% 1000 128 1 0
4 Orion 0.7 NNUE 318886 11:43:55.1 22654 40000 3188 400000 79.72% 1000 128 1 0
5 Ethereal 12.62 317128 11:37:07.9 22428 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
6 Komodo 14 317110 11:09:21.4 22398 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
7 igel 2.80 NNUE 316831 11:32:02.3 22679 40000 3168 400000 79.21% 1000 128 1 0
8 Houdini 6.03 314596 11:27:54.8 22218 40000 3146 400000 78.65% 1000 128 1 0
9 igel 2.70 NNUE 314310 11:31:36.6 22125 40000 3143 400000 78.58% 1000 128 1 0
10 Ethereal 12.50 313391 11:41:53.8 22006 40000 3134 400000 78.35% 1000 128 1 0
11 Minic 2.48 NNUE 313289 11:18:29.8 21898 40000 3132 400000 78.32% 1000 128 1 0
12 SlowChess 2.2 313139 10:30:56.4 21860 40000 3131 400000 78.28% 1000 128 1 0
13 Ethereal 12.25 312493 11:30:24.1 21959 40000 3124 400000 78.12% 1000 128 1 0
14 rofChade 2.3 309642 11:24:20.2 21587 40000 3096 400000 77.41% 1000 128 1 41
15 Ethereal 12 309088 11:30:20.9 21840 40000 3090 400000 77.27% 1000 128 1 0
16 Laser 1.7 308178 11:29:30.5 21320 40000 3081 400000 77.04% 1000 128 1 0
17 Schooner 2.2 306808 10:22:01.9 21335 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
18 Xiphos 0.6 306796 10:03:55.9 21333 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
19 Booot 6.4 305082 12:56:19.6 21267 40000 3050 400000 76.27% 1000 128 1 124
20 Defenchess 2.2 303754 10:12:00.7 21208 40000 3037 400000 75.94% 1000 128 1 41
21 Andscacs 0.95 301560 12:10:30.8 20745 40000 3015 400000 75.39% 1005 128 1 41
22 Shredder 13 300619 11:28:47.0 20946 40000 3006 400000 75.15% 1000 128 1 0
23 Wasp 4.00 299925 11:45:50.1 20727 40000 2999 400000 74.98% 1000 128 1 0
24 Senpai 2 299279 11:36:50.5 20615 40000 2992 400000 74.82% 1000 128 1 42
25 Arasan 22 298663 11:27:32.7 20460 40000 2986 400000 74.67% 1000 128 1 0
26 ice 4.0 297995 11:49:51.1 20767 40000 2980 400000 74.50% 1000 128 1 0
27 Critter 1.6 297939 11:38:55.1 20654 40000 2979 400000 74.48% 1000 128 1 22
28 Fire 7.1 296996 11:26:35.7 20356 40000 2970 400000 74.25% 1000 128 1 0
29 Vajolet 2.8 296269 11:25:51.6 20327 40000 2962 400000 74.07% 1000 128 1 0
30 Demolito 200514 295686 10:53:58.5 20429 40000 2956 400000 73.92% 1000 128 1 0
31 Gogobello 2.2 293824 11:44:24.1 20296 40000 2938 400000 73.46% 1000 128 1 41
32 Nemorino 5.00 291649 10:05:27.4 19882 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 41
33 Rodent 4 291647 11:45:03.3 19774 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 0
34 Winter 0.8 291596 10:02:03.0 20057 40000 2916 400000 72.90% 1000 128 1 41
35 Hannibal 1.7 291446 11:39:04.6 19985 40000 2914 400000 72.86% 1000 128 1 0
36 Combusken 1.2 291389 12:25:31.9 19902 40000 2914 400000 72.85% 1000 128 1 41
37 Texel 1.7 291164 11:27:40.3 20064 40000 2911 400000 72.79% 1000 128 1 0
38 Monolith 2 290807 11:31:27.5 19972 40000 2908 400000 72.70% 1000 128 1 0
39 Topple 0.7.5 290649 12:13:57.0 19696 40000 2906 400000 72.66% 1000 128 1 0
40 Deuterium 2019 290578 11:31:42.7 19819 40000 2905 400000 72.64% 1000 128 1 0
41 Chiron 4 290250 11:46:17.8 19978 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 0
42 Godel 7.0 290222 12:52:57.9 19758 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 42
43 Amoeba 3.1 289712 09:40:26.2 19682 40000 2897 400000 72.43% 1000 128 1 0
44 FabChess 1.15 289296 11:50:40.2 19849 40000 2892 400000 72.32% 1000 128 1 41
45 sting-sf-21 288904 11:31:56.3 19905 40000 2889 400000 72.23% 1000 128 1 0
46 Marvin 3.60 288732 10:48:52.8 19848 40000 2887 400000 72.18% 1000 128 1 41
47 Bobcat 8 287527 10:54:11.9 19486 40000 2875 400000 71.88% 1000 128 1 0
48 Invictus r305 285355 10:16:08.6 19227 40000 2853 400000 71.34% 1000 128 1 0
49 Counter 3.5 285137 11:25:20.1 19329 40000 2851 400000 71.28% 1000 128 1 0
50 Weiss 1.0 284693 11:23:14.3 19241 40000 2846 400000 71.17% 1000 128 1 0
51 Asymptote 0.8 284305 12:19:43.9 19245 40000 2843 400000 71.08% 1000 128 1 41
52 Weiss 0.10 281037 11:06:09.2 18927 40000 2810 400000 70.26% 1000 128 1 0
53 Tucano 8.0 280426 04:46:55.0 18777 40000 2804 400000 70.11% 1000 128 1 0
54 RuyDos 1.1.11 278666 10:25:44.5 18567 40000 2786 400000 69.67% 1000 128 1 0
55 Cheese 2.1 277252 11:28:33.3 18763 40000 2772 400000 69.31% 1000 128 1 0
56 GreKo 2020.03 276482 11:29:35.7 18694 40000 2764 400000 69.12% 1000 128 1 0
57 Fruit 2.3 275618 11:30:55.1 18270 40000 2756 400000 68.90% 1000 128 1 0
58 ProDeo 2.2 273793 11:29:46.3 18263 40000 2738 400000 68.45% 1000 128 1 0
59 Benjamin 271801 11:29:55.8 17985 40000 2718 400000 67.95% 1000 128 1 0
60 Fridolin 3.10 271357 11:40:42.9 18030 40000 2713 400000 67.84% 1000 128 1 0
61 Fruit 2.1 270830 11:29:45.7 17982 40000 2708 400000 67.71% 1000 128 1 0
62 Devel 3.0.0b 269433 12:22:53.0 17986 40000 2694 400000 67.36% 1000 128 1 65
63 Orion 0.6 268120 11:31:45.3 17895 40000 2681 400000 67.03% 1000 128 1 41
64 Ruffian 2 265592 11:13:01.7 17740 40000 2656 400000 66.40% 1000 128 1 0
65 Stash 18.0 253693 11:10:20.4 16848 40000 2536 400000 63.42% 1000 128 1 0
66 CT800 1.40 253449 10:45:20.4 16533 40000 2534 400000 63.36% 1000 128 1 0
67 Ares 005-2 243380 04:42:01.1 15937 40000 2433 400000 60.84% 1000 128 1 0
68 FoxSee 3.3.3 240244 11:08:18.3 15505 40000 2402 400000 60.06% 1000 128 1 0
Created with MEA
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Ferdinand
Mosca
Outstanding!
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
AndrewGrant
Posts: 1759Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:08 amLocation: U.S.AFull name: Andrew Grant
Post by AndrewGrant Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:45 pm
Rebel wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:43 pm
Minic 2.50 +89 on SRL 1000ms
Code: Select all
EPD : epd\lc1.epd
Time : 1000ms
Max Time Hash
Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors
1 Stockfish 12 341638 11:34:09.7 25383 40000 3416 400000 85.41% 1000 128 1 0
2 Rubi 1.8 NNUE 328244 11:30:21.7 23651 40000 3282 400000 82.06% 1000 128 1 0
3 Minic 2.50 NNUE 322147 11:06:22.6 22986 40000 3221 400000 80.54% 1000 128 1 0
4 Orion 0.7 NNUE 318886 11:43:55.1 22654 40000 3188 400000 79.72% 1000 128 1 0
5 Ethereal 12.62 317128 11:37:07.9 22428 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
6 Komodo 14 317110 11:09:21.4 22398 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
7 igel 2.80 NNUE 316831 11:32:02.3 22679 40000 3168 400000 79.21% 1000 128 1 0
8 Houdini 6.03 314596 11:27:54.8 22218 40000 3146 400000 78.65% 1000 128 1 0
9 igel 2.70 NNUE 314310 11:31:36.6 22125 40000 3143 400000 78.58% 1000 128 1 0
10 Ethereal 12.50 313391 11:41:53.8 22006 40000 3134 400000 78.35% 1000 128 1 0
11 Minic 2.48 NNUE 313289 11:18:29.8 21898 40000 3132 400000 78.32% 1000 128 1 0
12 SlowChess 2.2 313139 10:30:56.4 21860 40000 3131 400000 78.28% 1000 128 1 0
13 Ethereal 12.25 312493 11:30:24.1 21959 40000 3124 400000 78.12% 1000 128 1 0
14 rofChade 2.3 309642 11:24:20.2 21587 40000 3096 400000 77.41% 1000 128 1 41
15 Ethereal 12 309088 11:30:20.9 21840 40000 3090 400000 77.27% 1000 128 1 0
16 Laser 1.7 308178 11:29:30.5 21320 40000 3081 400000 77.04% 1000 128 1 0
17 Schooner 2.2 306808 10:22:01.9 21335 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
18 Xiphos 0.6 306796 10:03:55.9 21333 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
19 Booot 6.4 305082 12:56:19.6 21267 40000 3050 400000 76.27% 1000 128 1 124
20 Defenchess 2.2 303754 10:12:00.7 21208 40000 3037 400000 75.94% 1000 128 1 41
21 Andscacs 0.95 301560 12:10:30.8 20745 40000 3015 400000 75.39% 1005 128 1 41
22 Shredder 13 300619 11:28:47.0 20946 40000 3006 400000 75.15% 1000 128 1 0
23 Wasp 4.00 299925 11:45:50.1 20727 40000 2999 400000 74.98% 1000 128 1 0
24 Senpai 2 299279 11:36:50.5 20615 40000 2992 400000 74.82% 1000 128 1 42
25 Arasan 22 298663 11:27:32.7 20460 40000 2986 400000 74.67% 1000 128 1 0
26 ice 4.0 297995 11:49:51.1 20767 40000 2980 400000 74.50% 1000 128 1 0
27 Critter 1.6 297939 11:38:55.1 20654 40000 2979 400000 74.48% 1000 128 1 22
28 Fire 7.1 296996 11:26:35.7 20356 40000 2970 400000 74.25% 1000 128 1 0
29 Vajolet 2.8 296269 11:25:51.6 20327 40000 2962 400000 74.07% 1000 128 1 0
30 Demolito 200514 295686 10:53:58.5 20429 40000 2956 400000 73.92% 1000 128 1 0
31 Gogobello 2.2 293824 11:44:24.1 20296 40000 2938 400000 73.46% 1000 128 1 41
32 Nemorino 5.00 291649 10:05:27.4 19882 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 41
33 Rodent 4 291647 11:45:03.3 19774 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 0
34 Winter 0.8 291596 10:02:03.0 20057 40000 2916 400000 72.90% 1000 128 1 41
35 Hannibal 1.7 291446 11:39:04.6 19985 40000 2914 400000 72.86% 1000 128 1 0
36 Combusken 1.2 291389 12:25:31.9 19902 40000 2914 400000 72.85% 1000 128 1 41
37 Texel 1.7 291164 11:27:40.3 20064 40000 2911 400000 72.79% 1000 128 1 0
38 Monolith 2 290807 11:31:27.5 19972 40000 2908 400000 72.70% 1000 128 1 0
39 Topple 0.7.5 290649 12:13:57.0 19696 40000 2906 400000 72.66% 1000 128 1 0
40 Deuterium 2019 290578 11:31:42.7 19819 40000 2905 400000 72.64% 1000 128 1 0
41 Chiron 4 290250 11:46:17.8 19978 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 0
42 Godel 7.0 290222 12:52:57.9 19758 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 42
43 Amoeba 3.1 289712 09:40:26.2 19682 40000 2897 400000 72.43% 1000 128 1 0
44 FabChess 1.15 289296 11:50:40.2 19849 40000 2892 400000 72.32% 1000 128 1 41
45 sting-sf-21 288904 11:31:56.3 19905 40000 2889 400000 72.23% 1000 128 1 0
46 Marvin 3.60 288732 10:48:52.8 19848 40000 2887 400000 72.18% 1000 128 1 41
47 Bobcat 8 287527 10:54:11.9 19486 40000 2875 400000 71.88% 1000 128 1 0
48 Invictus r305 285355 10:16:08.6 19227 40000 2853 400000 71.34% 1000 128 1 0
49 Counter 3.5 285137 11:25:20.1 19329 40000 2851 400000 71.28% 1000 128 1 0
50 Weiss 1.0 284693 11:23:14.3 19241 40000 2846 400000 71.17% 1000 128 1 0
51 Asymptote 0.8 284305 12:19:43.9 19245 40000 2843 400000 71.08% 1000 128 1 41
52 Weiss 0.10 281037 11:06:09.2 18927 40000 2810 400000 70.26% 1000 128 1 0
53 Tucano 8.0 280426 04:46:55.0 18777 40000 2804 400000 70.11% 1000 128 1 0
54 RuyDos 1.1.11 278666 10:25:44.5 18567 40000 2786 400000 69.67% 1000 128 1 0
55 Cheese 2.1 277252 11:28:33.3 18763 40000 2772 400000 69.31% 1000 128 1 0
56 GreKo 2020.03 276482 11:29:35.7 18694 40000 2764 400000 69.12% 1000 128 1 0
57 Fruit 2.3 275618 11:30:55.1 18270 40000 2756 400000 68.90% 1000 128 1 0
58 ProDeo 2.2 273793 11:29:46.3 18263 40000 2738 400000 68.45% 1000 128 1 0
59 Benjamin 271801 11:29:55.8 17985 40000 2718 400000 67.95% 1000 128 1 0
60 Fridolin 3.10 271357 11:40:42.9 18030 40000 2713 400000 67.84% 1000 128 1 0
61 Fruit 2.1 270830 11:29:45.7 17982 40000 2708 400000 67.71% 1000 128 1 0
62 Devel 3.0.0b 269433 12:22:53.0 17986 40000 2694 400000 67.36% 1000 128 1 65
63 Orion 0.6 268120 11:31:45.3 17895 40000 2681 400000 67.03% 1000 128 1 41
64 Ruffian 2 265592 11:13:01.7 17740 40000 2656 400000 66.40% 1000 128 1 0
65 Stash 18.0 253693 11:10:20.4 16848 40000 2536 400000 63.42% 1000 128 1 0
66 CT800 1.40 253449 10:45:20.4 16533 40000 2534 400000 63.36% 1000 128 1 0
67 Ares 005-2 243380 04:42:01.1 15937 40000 2433 400000 60.84% 1000 128 1 0
68 FoxSee 3.3.3 240244 11:08:18.3 15505 40000 2402 400000 60.06% 1000 128 1 0
Created with MEA
by
Ferdinand
Mosca
Outstanding!
To be clear, which of the NNUE entries are home brew nets, and which are using Stockfish nets?
Also, thanks for running Ethereal 12.62. Quite a jump, as anticipated based on regression testing.
#WeAreAllDraude #JusticeForDraude #RememberDraude #LeptirBigUltra"Those who can't do, clone instead" - Eduard ( A real life friend, not this forum's Eduard )
RubiChess
Posts: 587Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:20 amFull name: Andreas Matthies
Post by RubiChess Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:53 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:45 pm Rebel wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:43 pm
Minic 2.50 +89 on SRL 1000ms
Code: Select all
EPD : epd\lc1.epd
Time : 1000ms
Max Time Hash
Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors
1 Stockfish 12 341638 11:34:09.7 25383 40000 3416 400000 85.41% 1000 128 1 0
2 Rubi 1.8 NNUE 328244 11:30:21.7 23651 40000 3282 400000 82.06% 1000 128 1 0
3 Minic 2.50 NNUE 322147 11:06:22.6 22986 40000 3221 400000 80.54% 1000 128 1 0
4 Orion 0.7 NNUE 318886 11:43:55.1 22654 40000 3188 400000 79.72% 1000 128 1 0
5 Ethereal 12.62 317128 11:37:07.9 22428 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
6 Komodo 14 317110 11:09:21.4 22398 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
7 igel 2.80 NNUE 316831 11:32:02.3 22679 40000 3168 400000 79.21% 1000 128 1 0
8 Houdini 6.03 314596 11:27:54.8 22218 40000 3146 400000 78.65% 1000 128 1 0
9 igel 2.70 NNUE 314310 11:31:36.6 22125 40000 3143 400000 78.58% 1000 128 1 0
10 Ethereal 12.50 313391 11:41:53.8 22006 40000 3134 400000 78.35% 1000 128 1 0
11 Minic 2.48 NNUE 313289 11:18:29.8 21898 40000 3132 400000 78.32% 1000 128 1 0
...
Outstanding!
To be clear, which of the NNUE entries are home brew nets, and which are using Stockfish nets?
Also, thanks for running Ethereal 12.62. Quite a jump, as anticipated based on regression testing.
Not my fault. I always emphasized that it should be called "Net-xyz played by Rubi|Minic|Igel|...".
Sylwy
Posts: 4468Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:19 pmLocation: IASI - the historical capital of MOLDOVAFull name: SilvianR
Post by Sylwy Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:12 pm
xr_a_y wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:30 pm
Here are some results MinicNNUE + nn-97f742aaefcd.nnue using various number of threads versus SF various versions (single threaded).
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ResultSet-EloRating>Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 stockfish.11 90 50 49 96 54% 67 43%
2 minic_2.50_uci_nnue_8t 67 18 18 767 62% -8 47%
3 stockfish.10 55 49 50 96 48% 67 44%
4 minic_2.50_uci_nnue_4t 35 46 46 96 44% 67 69%
5 stockfish.9 8 48 49 96 40% 67 49%
6 stockfish.8 -20 50 51 96 36% 67 43%
7 minic_2.50_uci_nnue_2t -40 48 49 96 31% 67 56%
8 stockfish.7 -72 52 55 96 29% 67 33%
9 minic_2.50_uci_nnue -123 52 56 95 21% 67 41%
It seems like this time Minic (2.50_SV1520) is over Komodo 14:
xr_a_y
Posts: 1871Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:28 pmLocation: France
Post by xr_a_y Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:02 pm
Possible indeed. My test versus SF were made at very short TC 10s+0.1. At longer TC is was clearly showed that MinicNNUE is scaling well as Minic standard eval is quite slow already.
Rebel
Posts: 6997Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:16 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:45 pm Rebel wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:43 pm
Minic 2.50 +89 on SRL 1000ms
Code: Select all
EPD : epd\lc1.epd
Time : 1000ms
Max Time Hash
Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors
1 Stockfish 12 341638 11:34:09.7 25383 40000 3416 400000 85.41% 1000 128 1 0
2 Rubi 1.8 NNUE 328244 11:30:21.7 23651 40000 3282 400000 82.06% 1000 128 1 0
3 Minic 2.50 NNUE 322147 11:06:22.6 22986 40000 3221 400000 80.54% 1000 128 1 0
4 Orion 0.7 NNUE 318886 11:43:55.1 22654 40000 3188 400000 79.72% 1000 128 1 0
5 Ethereal 12.62 317128 11:37:07.9 22428 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
6 Komodo 14 317110 11:09:21.4 22398 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
7 igel 2.80 NNUE 316831 11:32:02.3 22679 40000 3168 400000 79.21% 1000 128 1 0
8 Houdini 6.03 314596 11:27:54.8 22218 40000 3146 400000 78.65% 1000 128 1 0
9 igel 2.70 NNUE 314310 11:31:36.6 22125 40000 3143 400000 78.58% 1000 128 1 0
10 Ethereal 12.50 313391 11:41:53.8 22006 40000 3134 400000 78.35% 1000 128 1 0
11 Minic 2.48 NNUE 313289 11:18:29.8 21898 40000 3132 400000 78.32% 1000 128 1 0
12 SlowChess 2.2 313139 10:30:56.4 21860 40000 3131 400000 78.28% 1000 128 1 0
13 Ethereal 12.25 312493 11:30:24.1 21959 40000 3124 400000 78.12% 1000 128 1 0
14 rofChade 2.3 309642 11:24:20.2 21587 40000 3096 400000 77.41% 1000 128 1 41
15 Ethereal 12 309088 11:30:20.9 21840 40000 3090 400000 77.27% 1000 128 1 0
16 Laser 1.7 308178 11:29:30.5 21320 40000 3081 400000 77.04% 1000 128 1 0
17 Schooner 2.2 306808 10:22:01.9 21335 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
18 Xiphos 0.6 306796 10:03:55.9 21333 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
19 Booot 6.4 305082 12:56:19.6 21267 40000 3050 400000 76.27% 1000 128 1 124
20 Defenchess 2.2 303754 10:12:00.7 21208 40000 3037 400000 75.94% 1000 128 1 41
21 Andscacs 0.95 301560 12:10:30.8 20745 40000 3015 400000 75.39% 1005 128 1 41
22 Shredder 13 300619 11:28:47.0 20946 40000 3006 400000 75.15% 1000 128 1 0
23 Wasp 4.00 299925 11:45:50.1 20727 40000 2999 400000 74.98% 1000 128 1 0
24 Senpai 2 299279 11:36:50.5 20615 40000 2992 400000 74.82% 1000 128 1 42
25 Arasan 22 298663 11:27:32.7 20460 40000 2986 400000 74.67% 1000 128 1 0
26 ice 4.0 297995 11:49:51.1 20767 40000 2980 400000 74.50% 1000 128 1 0
27 Critter 1.6 297939 11:38:55.1 20654 40000 2979 400000 74.48% 1000 128 1 22
28 Fire 7.1 296996 11:26:35.7 20356 40000 2970 400000 74.25% 1000 128 1 0
29 Vajolet 2.8 296269 11:25:51.6 20327 40000 2962 400000 74.07% 1000 128 1 0
30 Demolito 200514 295686 10:53:58.5 20429 40000 2956 400000 73.92% 1000 128 1 0
31 Gogobello 2.2 293824 11:44:24.1 20296 40000 2938 400000 73.46% 1000 128 1 41
32 Nemorino 5.00 291649 10:05:27.4 19882 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 41
33 Rodent 4 291647 11:45:03.3 19774 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 0
34 Winter 0.8 291596 10:02:03.0 20057 40000 2916 400000 72.90% 1000 128 1 41
35 Hannibal 1.7 291446 11:39:04.6 19985 40000 2914 400000 72.86% 1000 128 1 0
36 Combusken 1.2 291389 12:25:31.9 19902 40000 2914 400000 72.85% 1000 128 1 41
37 Texel 1.7 291164 11:27:40.3 20064 40000 2911 400000 72.79% 1000 128 1 0
38 Monolith 2 290807 11:31:27.5 19972 40000 2908 400000 72.70% 1000 128 1 0
39 Topple 0.7.5 290649 12:13:57.0 19696 40000 2906 400000 72.66% 1000 128 1 0
40 Deuterium 2019 290578 11:31:42.7 19819 40000 2905 400000 72.64% 1000 128 1 0
41 Chiron 4 290250 11:46:17.8 19978 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 0
42 Godel 7.0 290222 12:52:57.9 19758 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 42
43 Amoeba 3.1 289712 09:40:26.2 19682 40000 2897 400000 72.43% 1000 128 1 0
44 FabChess 1.15 289296 11:50:40.2 19849 40000 2892 400000 72.32% 1000 128 1 41
45 sting-sf-21 288904 11:31:56.3 19905 40000 2889 400000 72.23% 1000 128 1 0
46 Marvin 3.60 288732 10:48:52.8 19848 40000 2887 400000 72.18% 1000 128 1 41
47 Bobcat 8 287527 10:54:11.9 19486 40000 2875 400000 71.88% 1000 128 1 0
48 Invictus r305 285355 10:16:08.6 19227 40000 2853 400000 71.34% 1000 128 1 0
49 Counter 3.5 285137 11:25:20.1 19329 40000 2851 400000 71.28% 1000 128 1 0
50 Weiss 1.0 284693 11:23:14.3 19241 40000 2846 400000 71.17% 1000 128 1 0
51 Asymptote 0.8 284305 12:19:43.9 19245 40000 2843 400000 71.08% 1000 128 1 41
52 Weiss 0.10 281037 11:06:09.2 18927 40000 2810 400000 70.26% 1000 128 1 0
53 Tucano 8.0 280426 04:46:55.0 18777 40000 2804 400000 70.11% 1000 128 1 0
54 RuyDos 1.1.11 278666 10:25:44.5 18567 40000 2786 400000 69.67% 1000 128 1 0
55 Cheese 2.1 277252 11:28:33.3 18763 40000 2772 400000 69.31% 1000 128 1 0
56 GreKo 2020.03 276482 11:29:35.7 18694 40000 2764 400000 69.12% 1000 128 1 0
57 Fruit 2.3 275618 11:30:55.1 18270 40000 2756 400000 68.90% 1000 128 1 0
58 ProDeo 2.2 273793 11:29:46.3 18263 40000 2738 400000 68.45% 1000 128 1 0
59 Benjamin 271801 11:29:55.8 17985 40000 2718 400000 67.95% 1000 128 1 0
60 Fridolin 3.10 271357 11:40:42.9 18030 40000 2713 400000 67.84% 1000 128 1 0
61 Fruit 2.1 270830 11:29:45.7 17982 40000 2708 400000 67.71% 1000 128 1 0
62 Devel 3.0.0b 269433 12:22:53.0 17986 40000 2694 400000 67.36% 1000 128 1 65
63 Orion 0.6 268120 11:31:45.3 17895 40000 2681 400000 67.03% 1000 128 1 41
64 Ruffian 2 265592 11:13:01.7 17740 40000 2656 400000 66.40% 1000 128 1 0
65 Stash 18.0 253693 11:10:20.4 16848 40000 2536 400000 63.42% 1000 128 1 0
66 CT800 1.40 253449 10:45:20.4 16533 40000 2534 400000 63.36% 1000 128 1 0
67 Ares 005-2 243380 04:42:01.1 15937 40000 2433 400000 60.84% 1000 128 1 0
68 FoxSee 3.3.3 240244 11:08:18.3 15505 40000 2402 400000 60.06% 1000 128 1 0
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Ferdinand
Mosca
Outstanding!
To be clear, which of the NNUE entries are home brew nets, and which are using Stockfish nets?
Check the (not yet updated) html version -
http://rebel13.nl/download/srl-1000.html
I like the way Igel has called his net.
Also, thanks for running Ethereal 12.62. Quite a jump, as anticipated based on regression testing.
You are welcome.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
Rebel
Posts: 6997Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:37 pm
Minic 2.50 +70 on SRL 4000ms
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EPD : epd\lc1.epd
Time : 4000ms
Max Time Hash
Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors
1 Stockfish 12 348460 44:54:23.9 26480 40000 3484 400000 87.12% 4000 128 1 0
2 Rubi 1.8 NNUE 337312 44:48:11.8 24972 40000 3373 400000 84.33% 4000 128 1 0
3 Minic 2.50 NNUE 336293 41:30:40.6 24680 40000 3362 400000 84.07% 4000 128 1 0
4 Orion 0.7 NNUE 329921 44:58:38.8 23892 40000 3299 400000 82.48% 4000 128 1 0
5 Minic 2.48 NNUE 329645 42:13:25.3 23854 40000 3296 400000 82.41% 4000 128 1 0
6 igel 2.80 NNUE 329212 44:52:14.6 23835 40000 3292 400000 82.30% 4000 128 1 0
7 Komodo 14 326627 44:27:14.3 23558 40000 3266 400000 81.66% 4000 128 1 0
8 Ethereal 12.62 325896 44:53:49.4 23512 40000 3258 400000 81.47% 4000 128 1 0
9 Houdini 6.03 323896 44:47:34.1 23189 40000 3238 400000 80.97% 4000 128 1 0
10 Ethereal 12.50 322740 44:54:28.2 23201 40000 3227 400000 80.69% 4000 128 1 0
11 igel 2.70 NNUE 322472 44:52:01.2 23334 40000 3224 400000 80.62% 4000 128 1 0
12 SlowChess 2.2 322132 41:55:28.0 22885 40000 3221 400000 80.53% 4000 128 1 0
13 Ethereal 12 321795 44:44:14.7 22957 40000 3218 400000 80.45% 4000 128 1 0
14 rofChade 2.3 318859 44:39:33.9 22599 40000 3188 400000 79.71% 4000 128 1 41
15 Xiphos 0.6 317879 43:21:42.3 22555 40000 3178 400000 79.47% 4000 128 1 0
16 Schooner 2.2 317565 43:41:15.3 22562 40000 3175 400000 79.39% 4000 128 1 0
17 Booot 6.4 316479 47:12:45.4 22523 40000 3164 400000 79.12% 4000 128 1 2
18 Laser 1.7 314814 44:45:07.0 22345 40000 3148 400000 78.70% 4000 128 1 0
19 Defenchess 2.2 312030 38:52:42.1 22110 40000 3120 400000 78.01% 4000 128 1 41
20 Andscacs 0.95 311822 45:24:58.7 21794 40000 3118 400000 77.96% 4000 128 1 41
21 ice 4.0 309829 44:52:39.6 21658 40000 3098 400000 77.46% 4000 128 1 0
22 Shredder 13 309807 44:48:21.9 21994 40000 3098 400000 77.45% 4000 128 1 0
23 Arasan 22 309362 44:45:31.2 21516 40000 3093 400000 77.34% 4000 128 1 0
24 Fire 7.1 308708 44:42:14.0 21560 40000 3087 400000 77.18% 4000 128 1 0
25 Senpai 2 307960 44:42:47.2 21479 40000 3079 400000 76.99% 4000 128 1 42
26 Vajolet 2.8 307941 45:11:43.1 21536 40000 3079 400000 76.99% 4000 128 1 0
27 Gogobello 2.2 307173 45:07:39.2 21400 40000 3071 400000 76.79% 4000 128 1 41
28 Critter 1.6 306779 44:56:44.7 21528 40000 3067 400000 76.69% 4000 128 1 2
29 Demolito 200514 306093 44:12:20.5 21277 40000 3060 400000 76.52% 4000 128 1 0
30 Wasp 4.00 305798 45:02:22.4 21558 40000 3058 400000 76.45% 4000 128 1 0
31 Winter 0.8 303798 43:20:18.5 21335 40000 3038 400000 75.95% 4000 128 1 41
32 Texel 1.7 303519 44:44:52.5 21036 40000 3035 400000 75.88% 4000 128 1 0
33 Nemorino 5.00 302844 43:23:07.1 21009 40000 3028 400000 75.71% 4000 128 1 41
34 FabChess 1.15 301637 44:48:29.5 20899 40000 3016 400000 75.41% 4000 128 1 41
35 Rodent 4 301144 44:55:36.6 20719 40000 3011 400000 75.29% 4000 128 1 0
36 Topple 0.7.5 300807 45:21:48.1 20742 40000 3008 400000 75.20% 4000 128 1 0
37 Chiron 4 300637 45:00:28.3 20953 40000 3006 400000 75.16% 4000 128 1 0
38 Amoeba 3.1 300288 36:57:29.1 20750 40000 3002 400000 75.07% 4000 128 1 0
39 Marvin 3.60 300080 44:10:55.7 20986 40000 3000 400000 75.02% 4000 128 1 41
40 Monolith 2 299874 44:44:18.9 20911 40000 2998 400000 74.97% 4000 128 1 0
41 Combusken 1.2 299766 45:28:35.3 20880 40000 2997 400000 74.94% 4000 128 1 41
42 sting-sf-21 297202 44:48:36.1 20697 40000 2972 400000 74.30% 4000 128 1 0
43 Deuterium 2019 297072 44:41:19.1 20712 40000 2970 400000 74.27% 4000 128 1 0
44 Godel 7.0 296809 45:19:39.9 20640 40000 2968 400000 74.20% 4000 128 1 42
45 Bobcat 8 294708 42:35:45.9 20387 40000 2947 400000 73.68% 4000 128 1 0
46 Tucano 8.0 294410 31:43:42.9 20135 40000 2944 400000 73.60% 4000 128 1 0
47 Asymptote 0.8 294116 45:21:11.1 20110 40000 2941 400000 73.53% 4000 128 1 41
48 Weiss 1.0 293699 44:43:10.2 20111 40000 2936 400000 73.42% 4000 128 1 0
49 Invictus r305 292937 40:07:31.4 19986 40000 2929 400000 73.23% 4000 128 1 0
50 Hannibal 1.7 291930 42:39:15.1 20365 40000 2919 400000 72.98% 4000 128 1 0
51 Counter 3.5 291767 44:40:43.3 20239 40000 2917 400000 72.94% 4000 128 1 0
52 Weiss 0.10 289536 44:25:53.2 19821 40000 2895 400000 72.38% 4000 128 1 0
53 RuyDos 1.1.11 288440 43:41:56.9 19632 40000 2884 400000 72.11% 4000 128 1 0
54 Cheese 2.1 286202 44:44:56.2 19579 40000 2862 400000 71.55% 4000 128 1 0
55 Fruit 2.3 285653 44:43:17.1 19219 40000 2856 400000 71.41% 4000 128 1 0
56 GreKo 2020.03 285588 44:40:38.2 19566 40000 2856 400000 71.40% 4000 128 1 0
57 ProDeo 2.2 282592 44:47:12.1 18903 40000 2826 400000 70.65% 4000 128 1 0
58 Fridolin 3.10 281514 44:53:55.1 18984 40000 2815 400000 70.38% 4000 128 1 0
59 Benjamin 280598 44:47:19.4 18740 40000 2806 400000 70.15% 4000 128 1 0
60 Fruit 2.1 280170 44:41:52.0 18825 40000 2801 400000 70.04% 4000 128 1 0
61 Devel 3.0.0b 279037 45:29:21.4 18849 40000 2790 400000 69.76% 4000 128 1 46
62 Ruffian 2 277825 44:31:05.7 18629 40000 2778 400000 69.46% 4000 128 1 0
63 Orion 0.6 277732 44:45:12.5 18797 40000 2777 400000 69.43% 4000 128 1 41
64 Ares 005-2 261984 49:44:18.2 17472 40000 2620 400000 65.50% 4000 128 1 0
65 Stash 16.0 261931 44:34:09.0 17370 40000 2619 400000 65.48% 4000 128 1 0
66 CT800 1.40 261194 44:00:47.7 17252 40000 2612 400000 65.30% 4000 128 1 0
67 FoxSee 3.3.3 249604 44:15:53.8 16313 40000 2496 400000 62.40% 4000 128 1 0
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Ferdinand
Mosca
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
xr_a_y
Posts: 1871Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:28 pmLocation: France
Post by xr_a_y Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:21 am
Rebel wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:37 pm
Minic 2.50 +70 on SRL 4000ms
Thanks for testing !
xr_a_y
Posts: 1871Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:28 pmLocation: France
Post by xr_a_y Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:07 pm
I am very happy to announce my first fully Minic based net. It's name is "Nascent Nutrient" (download from here :
https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/NNUE-Nets ). It performs a little under "Napping Nexus" (my first homebrew SF based net) but I didn't use RL with game outcome on it yet. So for a first pure Minic net, I'm quite happy with it
Here are some TC 10s+0.1 versus Minic 2.50 and Minic 2.50 NNUE + a good SV net.
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 minic_2.50_nnue_nn-97f742aaefcd 150 41 201 70.4% 32.3%
2 minic_2.50_nnue_napping_nexus 42 37 201 56.0% 40.3%
3 minic_2.50_nnue_nascent_nutrient -19 39 200 47.3% 35.5%
4 minic_2.50 -177 45 202 26.5% 26.2%
I'm expecting to be able to release a stronger one soon, currently generating the data with game outcome for that ...
Please note that the NNUE learner, as merged inside Minic, is for now single threaded, so it takes a very long time to generate pure Minic nets ...
Werner
Posts: 2872Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:09 pmLocation: GermanyFull name: Werner Schüle
Post by Werner Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:11 pm
Hi Vivien,
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Werner
