For those who may find such things useful:
The changes since last release are pretty minor but not insignificant.
1) Small tweak to the "fortress detection" code
2) Better effort to output a sensible PV for only moves
3) More robust king danger detection in search
4) Latest upstream Stockfish merged in
Number 3 along with the ongoing work of all Stockfish contributors (sine qua non) are the most significant changes. Two test problems I check changes against have had their time to resolution dramatically reduced, and many others have had minor or substantial improvement.
The part I am most happy about is that I was able to achieve this without an apparent reduction in playing strength and perhaps even a small gain.
Special thanks to MikeB whose efforts inspired me to jump down the rabbit hole once more. I didn't end up using similar methods (in a way quite the opposite), but Mike's work kickstarted several ideas which, after many iterations, eventually resulted in a few promising ones.
A couple of those ideas did not make it in and will remain only that for the time being.
Source: https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/tree/crystal
Crystal Update
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Re: Crystal Update
For those who are looking for the 'truth' in a chess position , the Crystal chess engine is absolutely a necessary tool in the tool box. A nod and a tip of my hat to Joe Ellis for his contribution in finding the 'truth' in chess.jhellis3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:51 am For those who may find such things useful:
The changes since last release are pretty minor but not insignificant.
1) Small tweak to the "fortress detection" code
2) Better effort to output a sensible PV for only moves
3) More robust king danger detection in search
4) Latest upstream Stockfish merged in
Number 3 along with the ongoing work of all Stockfish contributors (sine qua non) are the most significant changes. Two test problems I check changes against have had their time to resolution dramatically reduced, and many others have had minor or substantial improvement.
The part I am most happy about is that I was able to achieve this without an apparent reduction in playing strength and perhaps even a small gain.
Special thanks to MikeB whose efforts inspired me to jump down the rabbit hole once more. I didn't end up using similar methods (in a way quite the opposite), but Mike's work kickstarted several ideas which, after many iterations, eventually resulted in a few promising ones.
A couple of those ideas did not make it in and will remain only that for the time being.
Source: https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/tree/crystal
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Re: Crystal Update
Nice ! I'm very interested by 3. I think it could have practical elo-gaining applications, not just analysis applications.
I suggested to Aloril to use Crystal to do live-analysis on TCEC SuFi games between Leela and Stockfish. If any engine can find a brilliancy missed by both of these, it might be Crystal.
I suggested to Aloril to use Crystal to do live-analysis on TCEC SuFi games between Leela and Stockfish. If any engine can find a brilliancy missed by both of these, it might be Crystal.
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Re: Crystal Update
Thanks Joe,
I look forward to executables.
I have a Linux system, and I can do the Linux compiles myself, which work very well.
However, I also need Windows compiles (non-pc) for certain programs (like old versions of ChessBase and Aquarium running under Wine), and I cannot do Windows compiles on my Linux system.
Marek S.
I look forward to executables.
I have a Linux system, and I can do the Linux compiles myself, which work very well.
However, I also need Windows compiles (non-pc) for certain programs (like old versions of ChessBase and Aquarium running under Wine), and I cannot do Windows compiles on my Linux system.
Marek S.
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Re: Crystal Update
I created a release with a couple of compiles IpMan has done.
https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases/tag/v2.0
One of my favorite things about it is this position: 8/1p1pNpbk/1q1P4/pP2p2K/P3N3/4P1P1/3P4/8 w - -
I actually did not realize it finds it (less than 180s single thread) when I made the original post, but it does. Finally....
https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases/tag/v2.0
One of my favorite things about it is this position: 8/1p1pNpbk/1q1P4/pP2p2K/P3N3/4P1P1/3P4/8 w - -
I actually did not realize it finds it (less than 180s single thread) when I made the original post, but it does. Finally....
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Re: Crystal Update
Thank you kindly.
Crystal is a must have for analysis of difficult positions.
Crystal is a must have for analysis of difficult positions.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
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Re: Crystal Update
Many Thanks !!jhellis3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:38 pm I created a release with a couple of compiles IpMan has done.
https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases/tag/v2.0
One of my favorite things about it is this position: 8/1p1pNpbk/1q1P4/pP2p2K/P3N3/4P1P1/3P4/8 w - -
I actually did not realize it finds it (less than 180s single thread) when I made the original post, but it does. Finally....
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Re: Crystal Update
IpMan also included a "general" version for older PCs:jhellis3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:38 pm I created a release with a couple of compiles IpMan has done.
https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases/tag/v2.0
http://ipmanchess.yolasite.com/compiles.php
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Re: Crystal Update
I tested it in my mate suite. Clearly the best mate solver now! Nice progress from previous version. Thanks.
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Re: Crystal Update
I have added one more very minor update, which includes the following:
1) Correct scoring support for 7 piece TBs
2) Put a few example positions in the readme for the inevitable question: why Crystal?
3) Retired razoring.... it was barely worth any Elo, (even tested better without it at LTC for me), severely restricted in application, and the only negative early pruning. Removing it cleaned up the code and is one less thing to worry about, which I am all for, so it is gone .
1) Correct scoring support for 7 piece TBs
2) Put a few example positions in the readme for the inevitable question: why Crystal?
3) Retired razoring.... it was barely worth any Elo, (even tested better without it at LTC for me), severely restricted in application, and the only negative early pruning. Removing it cleaned up the code and is one less thing to worry about, which I am all for, so it is gone .