Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Fri May 29, 2020 4:12 pm

After we have a uci of the famous Sargon 1978, what about the SciSys Mark V (worldchampion of Travemünde 1981) by David Broughton and Mark Taylor?

http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/html/che ... story.html

Can a pc run a programm of the authors?

Maybe Cyrus 68K ?

https://www.chessprogramming.org/Cyrus_68K

Or a emulated rom of the SciSys MARK V?

A uci version of this legend would be a dream to analyze old games. 8-)
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by mclane » Fri May 29, 2020 4:36 pm

Would be nice to see mkvi, that was transferred as emulation, into uci.

Also cyrus 68000, the successor on better hardware.

Those b strategy programs are interesting to play against.
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Scally » Fri May 29, 2020 4:51 pm

Hi all,

This is available on MAME and the DGT Pi / Picochess:

SAITEK / SciSys
=============== Freq. ROM RAM
Module Year Chess computer Bit CPU MHz kB kB Program author Elo
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
^ccmk5 1981 Chess Champion Mark V 8 6502 2 32 16 [ D.Broughton 1465

[ccmk5]
name = Scisys Chess Champion MK5
small = Sccmk5
medium = S CCMK5
large = Sci CCh MK5
elo = 1465

pi@MAME:/opt/picochess/engines/armv7l-MAME $ ./ccmk5
uci
id name Chess Champion: Mark V (mess 0.221)
option name Speed type spin default 100 min 0 max 10000
option name Level type string default 10
uciok
quit
Average speed: 100.00% (43 seconds)
pi@MAME:/opt/picochess/engines/armv7l-MAME $


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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by F.Huber » Fri May 29, 2020 5:16 pm

Hi,

you can use more than 250 old chess computer programs (also MK V) with CB-Emu_Pro from my website:
https://fhub.jimdofree.com/

It also includes a special version 'MessChess' which allows to run all those programs in any
chess GUI which supports the WB or UCI protocol (e.g. WinBoard, Arena, Hiarcs, Shredder, ...)

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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Werewolf » Fri May 29, 2020 5:49 pm

I'd just like to make a comment here: For those unfamiliar with Franz's work, it really is incredible.
You can play (almost) all the old dedicated machines and they feel like the original units.

Outstanding work.

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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Scally » Fri May 29, 2020 6:37 pm

Werewolf wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 5:49 pm
I'd just like to make a comment here: For those unfamiliar with Franz's work, it really is incredible.
You can play (almost) all the old dedicated machines and they feel like the original units.

Outstanding work.
Indeed
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Fri May 29, 2020 9:22 pm

Thx Mr Huber
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Bill Forster » Sat May 30, 2020 12:46 am

F.Huber wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 5:16 pm
Hi,

you can use more than 250 old chess computer programs (also MK V) with CB-Emu_Pro from my website:
https://fhub.jimdofree.com/

It also includes a special version 'MessChess' which allows to run all those programs in any
chess GUI which supports the WB or UCI protocol (e.g. WinBoard, Arena, Hiarcs, Shredder, ...)

Regards,
Franz
What an incredible project, many thanks. There's enough material to be absorbed for a lifetime in there. I have just downloaded your emulator and played against Mephisto 68000, it brought back memories of my youth as I related here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11639919

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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Sat May 30, 2020 5:12 pm

Today in the game 2 of my match against Mark V i used Mess and the preconfiguration of Arena GUI.

I am missing any informationoutput of Mark V under this configuration. No evaluation of the position, no mainline, absolut nothing.

Is this right?

Please give me more data under Arena GUI .

TL

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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by F.Huber » Sat May 30, 2020 5:47 pm

Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:12 pm
Today in the game 2 of my match against Mark V i used Mess and the preconfiguration of Arena GUI.

I am missing any informationoutput of Mark V under this configuration. No evaluation of the position, no mainline, absolut nothing.

Is this right?

Please give me more data under Arena GUI .
The UCI/WB interface in CB-Emu is not prepared for such engine informations, it only handles moves and (engine!) levels.
Since every engine provides such search infos (if at all) in different ways, this would mean that I had to add different code
for every engine - simply impossible for about 250 engines (I still have an other life besides CB-Emu ;-)).

Regards,
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