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thewhip
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How good is your engine?

Post by thewhip » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:46 pm

If your engine can't solve this problem in less of two minutes, throw it away.
Of those tested by me, only nine engines (among them my modest engine) managed to find the key to the problem. Stockfish and Lc0 are not on the list.
White plays

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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by zullil » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:52 pm

thewhip wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:46 pm
If your engine can't solve this problem in less of two minutes, throw it away.
Of those tested by me, only nine engines (among them my modest engine) managed to find the key to the problem. Stockfish and Lc0 are not on the list.
White plays
You're right. I don't think any UCI engine can handle this correctly. It seems White should resign, but UCI engines can't do that. :wink:

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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by Ovyron » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:06 pm

zullil wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:52 pm
It seems White should resign, but UCI engines can't do that. :wink:
It's a white win.

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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by zullil » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:09 pm

Ovyron wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:06 pm
zullil wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:52 pm
It seems White should resign, but UCI engines can't do that. :wink:
It's a white win.
Cool. Now I'm actually interested.

Oh, now I see. I guess I better throw Stockfish out. :wink:
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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by Ovyron » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:12 pm

zullil wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:09 pm
Ovyron wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:06 pm
zullil wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:52 pm
It seems White should resign, but UCI engines can't do that. :wink:
It's a white win.
Cool. Now I'm actually interested.
Yeah, despite knowing white was winning I couldn't find it with any of my methods.

I consider it the hardest chess puzzle in all of chess, at least, I was able to find the key moves in all the others, but not this one.

In that thread Uri Blass reveals that Gothmog is one of the engines that "get it":

Gothmog_10b10:
1/3 00:00 116 116k +2.31 1.Bc2+ Kg7 2.d8Q
2/5 00:00 1k 573k -0.22 1.Nf6+ Kg6 2.Bc2+ Kxf6 3.d8Q+ Kg7
3/7 00:00 2k 477k +0.59 1.Nf6+ Kg6 2.Bh5+ Kxf6 3.d8Q+ Kg7 4.Qe7+
4/12 00:00 6k 462k +1.31 1.Nf6+ Kg6 2.Bh5+ Kf5 3.d8Q Ne4+ 4.Nxe4 Kxe4
5/15 00:00 26k 712k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kg7 4.Nh5+
6/21+ 00:00 31k 658k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kg7 4.Nh5+
6/21 00:00 42k 622k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kg7 4.Nh5+
7/22- 00:00 91k 691k -0.04 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kf5 4.Bc2+ Kg4 5.Bd1+ Kxg3 6.Nh5+ Kh2 7.d8Q Nf7+
7/23 00:00 294k 759k -2.16 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kf5 4.Bc2+ Kg4 5.Bd1+ Kxg3 6.Ne2+ Kf2 7.d8R
8/23+ 00:00 382k 758k -2.16 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.g4
8/23 00:00 467k 762k -2.07 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.g4 Nc6+ 4.Kd6 Nd8 5.Bc2+ Kg7 6.Kxc5
9/25- 00:01 816k 760k -2.10 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.g4 Kg7
9/25 00:01 914k 752k -2.13 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.Ba4 Ne4 4.g4
10/25+ 00:01 1,182k 760k -2.13 1.d8Q Nf7+ 2.Ke7 Nxd8 3.Kxd8 Ba5+ 4.Kd7 Bc7 5.Nxe3 Bxg3 6.Bc2+ Kg7 7.Nf5+
10/30 00:03 2,504k 766k -2.10 1.d8Q Nf7+ 2.Ke7 Nxd8 3.Kxd8 e2 4.Bxe2 Ba5+ 5.Kd7 Nb4 6.Ne5 c2 7.Nd3 Na2
11/36- 00:05 4,303k 769k -2.13 1.d8Q Nf7+ 2.Ke7 Nxd8 3.Kxd8 e2 4.Bxe2 Ba5+ 5.Kd7 Nb4 6.Ne5 c2 7.Nd3 Na2
11/36+ 00:06 5,173k 779k -2.19 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.Ba4 Kg7
11/36 00:07 5,518k 786k -2.19 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.Ba4 Kg7
12/36+ 00:11 8,758k 790k -2.19 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4
12/42 00:20 15,724k 768k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qh2+ Ke1 8.Qh1+ Kf2 9.Qh2+
13/45+ 00:22 17,172k 763k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qh2+ Ke1 8.Qh1+ Kf2 9.Qh2+
13/45 00:35 26,051k 734k +0.25 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 e2 6.Qe8 Nb8+ 7.Kd5 Kf3 8.Bd3 Kxg3 9.Qe5+ Kh4 10.Qh2+ Nh3 11.Qxe2
14/52+ 00:41 30,602k 731k +0.25 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 e2 6.Qe8 Nb8+ 7.Kd5 Kf3 8.Bd3 Kxg3 9.Qe5+ Kh4 10.Qh2+ Nh3 11.Qxe2
14/52 00:58 42,900k 739k +0.37 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qf4+ Ke2 8.Qc4+ Ke1 9.Qxa6 e2 10.Qc4 Kf1 11.Qf4+ Kg2
15/52+ 01:14 54,506k 735k +0.37 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qf4+ Ke2 8.Qc4+ Ke1 9.Qxa6 e2 10.Qc4 Kf1 11.Qf4+ Kg2 12.Qh4
15/58 02:41 119,010k 735k +0.62 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 Kxg3 6.Qd6+ Kg2 7.Qxh6 Nf3 8.Qxe3 Nd4+ 9.Kd5 Nxc2 10.Qe2+
16/58+ 03:28 149,874k 720k +0.62 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 Kxg3 6.Qd6+ Kg2 7.Qxh6 Nf3 8.Qxe3 Nd4+ 9.Kd5 Nxc2 10.Qe2+
16/73 07:25 311,883k 700k +1.03 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 e2 6.Qe8 Nb8+ 7.Kc7 Na6+ 8.Kb6 Kf3 9.Bd3 c4 10.Qxe2+ Kxg3 11.Qe5+ Kf2 12.Qd4+ Kg3 13.Qxc4

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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by zullil » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:21 pm

Ovyron wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:12 pm
zullil wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:09 pm
Ovyron wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:06 pm
zullil wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:52 pm
It seems White should resign, but UCI engines can't do that. :wink:
It's a white win.
Cool. Now I'm actually interested.
Yeah, despite knowing white was winning I couldn't find it with any of my methods.

I consider it the hardest chess puzzle in all of chess, at least, I was able to find the key moves in all the others, but not this one.

In that thread Uri Blass reveals that Gothmog is one of the engines that "get it":

Gothmog_10b10:
1/3 00:00 116 116k +2.31 1.Bc2+ Kg7 2.d8Q
2/5 00:00 1k 573k -0.22 1.Nf6+ Kg6 2.Bc2+ Kxf6 3.d8Q+ Kg7
3/7 00:00 2k 477k +0.59 1.Nf6+ Kg6 2.Bh5+ Kxf6 3.d8Q+ Kg7 4.Qe7+
4/12 00:00 6k 462k +1.31 1.Nf6+ Kg6 2.Bh5+ Kf5 3.d8Q Ne4+ 4.Nxe4 Kxe4
5/15 00:00 26k 712k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kg7 4.Nh5+
6/21+ 00:00 31k 658k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kg7 4.Nh5+
6/21 00:00 42k 622k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kg7 4.Nh5+
7/22- 00:00 91k 691k -0.04 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kf5 4.Bc2+ Kg4 5.Bd1+ Kxg3 6.Nh5+ Kh2 7.d8Q Nf7+
7/23 00:00 294k 759k -2.16 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Nf4+ Kf5 4.Bc2+ Kg4 5.Bd1+ Kxg3 6.Ne2+ Kf2 7.d8R
8/23+ 00:00 382k 758k -2.16 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.g4
8/23 00:00 467k 762k -2.07 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.g4 Nc6+ 4.Kd6 Nd8 5.Bc2+ Kg7 6.Kxc5
9/25- 00:01 816k 760k -2.10 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.g4 Kg7
9/25 00:01 914k 752k -2.13 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.Ba4 Ne4 4.g4
10/25+ 00:01 1,182k 760k -2.13 1.d8Q Nf7+ 2.Ke7 Nxd8 3.Kxd8 Ba5+ 4.Kd7 Bc7 5.Nxe3 Bxg3 6.Bc2+ Kg7 7.Nf5+
10/30 00:03 2,504k 766k -2.10 1.d8Q Nf7+ 2.Ke7 Nxd8 3.Kxd8 e2 4.Bxe2 Ba5+ 5.Kd7 Nb4 6.Ne5 c2 7.Nd3 Na2
11/36- 00:05 4,303k 769k -2.13 1.d8Q Nf7+ 2.Ke7 Nxd8 3.Kxd8 e2 4.Bxe2 Ba5+ 5.Kd7 Nb4 6.Ne5 c2 7.Nd3 Na2
11/36+ 00:06 5,173k 779k -2.19 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.Ba4 Kg7
11/36 00:07 5,518k 786k -2.19 1.Nxe3 Ba5 2.Ke7 Nb4 3.Ba4 Kg7
12/36+ 00:11 8,758k 790k -2.19 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4
12/42 00:20 15,724k 768k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qh2+ Ke1 8.Qh1+ Kf2 9.Qh2+
13/45+ 00:22 17,172k 763k 0.00 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qh2+ Ke1 8.Qh1+ Kf2 9.Qh2+
13/45 00:35 26,051k 734k +0.25 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 e2 6.Qe8 Nb8+ 7.Kd5 Kf3 8.Bd3 Kxg3 9.Qe5+ Kh4 10.Qh2+ Nh3 11.Qxe2
14/52+ 00:41 30,602k 731k +0.25 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 e2 6.Qe8 Nb8+ 7.Kd5 Kf3 8.Bd3 Kxg3 9.Qe5+ Kh4 10.Qh2+ Nh3 11.Qxe2
14/52 00:58 42,900k 739k +0.37 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qf4+ Ke2 8.Qc4+ Ke1 9.Qxa6 e2 10.Qc4 Kf1 11.Qf4+ Kg2
15/52+ 01:14 54,506k 735k +0.37 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Qf6 Kxg3 6.Qe5+ Kf2 7.Qf4+ Ke2 8.Qc4+ Ke1 9.Qxa6 e2 10.Qc4 Kf1 11.Qf4+ Kg2 12.Qh4
15/58 02:41 119,010k 735k +0.62 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 Kxg3 6.Qd6+ Kg2 7.Qxh6 Nf3 8.Qxe3 Nd4+ 9.Kd5 Nxc2 10.Qe2+
16/58+ 03:28 149,874k 720k +0.62 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 Kxg3 6.Qd6+ Kg2 7.Qxh6 Nf3 8.Qxe3 Nd4+ 9.Kd5 Nxc2 10.Qe2+
16/73 07:25 311,883k 700k +1.03 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Kg4 5.Kc6 e2 6.Qe8 Nb8+ 7.Kc7 Na6+ 8.Kb6 Kf3 9.Bd3 c4 10.Qxe2+ Kxg3 11.Qe5+ Kf2 12.Qd4+ Kg3 13.Qxc4
Critter gets it:


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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by thewhip » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:34 pm

The objective is to get the pawn to become queen while preventing the knight from taking it.
This is how my engine handled it in less than 1 second!

Spitter 2.1 X64:

7/19- 00:00 10k 0 -0,08 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Nh5-f4+ Kg6-f5 Bd1-c2+ Kf5-g4 Bc2-d1+ Kg4xg3 Nf4-h5+ Kg3-f2
7/19- 00:00 12k 0 -0,16 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Nh5-f4+ Kg6-f5 Bd1-c2+ Kf5-g4 Bc2-d1+ Kg4xg3 Nf4-h5+ Kg3-f2
7/22- 00:00 31k 1.928k -2,56 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Nh5-f4+ Kg6-f5 Bd1-c2+ Kf5-g4 Bc2-d1+ Kg4xg3 Nf4-h5+ Kg3-f2
7/17 00:00 41k 2.584k -2,08 Kd6-d5 Na6-c7+ Kd5-d6 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Nc7-e6 Be2-c4 Ne6-d8 Ng4-e3
7/21 00:00 68k 4.220k -1,59 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 Na6-b8 Be2-d3+ Kh7-g8 Bd3-f5 Ba5-d8 Ne3-d5
8/23- 00:00 84k 2.714k -1,67 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 Na6-b8 Be2-d3+ Kh7-g8 Bd3-f5 Ba5-d8 Ne3-d5 Ng5-f7+ Kd6xc5 c3-c2 Bf5xc2 Nb8xd7+
8/21- 00:00 102k 3.285k -1,75 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 Na6-b8 Be2-d3+ Kh7-g8 Bd3-f5 Ba5-d8 Ne3-d5 Ng5-f7+ Kd6xc5 c3-c2 Bf5xc2 Nb8xd7+
8/23 00:00 129k 2.747k -1,85 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 Na6-b8 Be2-d3+ Kh7-g8 Bd3-f5 Ba5-d8 Ne3-d5 Ng5-f7+ Kd6xc5 c3-c2 Bf5xc2 Nb8xd7+ Kc5-d4 Nd7-e5
9/21 00:00 148k 3.142k -1,85 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 Na6-b8 Be2-d3+ Kh7-g8 Bd3-f5 Ba5-d8 Ne3-d5 Ng5-f7+ Kd6xc5 c3-c2 Bf5xc2 Nb8xd7+ Kc5-d4 Nd7-e5
10/23 00:00 212k 2.719k -1,83 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 c5-c4 Kd6-d5 Kh7-g7 Kd5xc4 Na6-b8 Be2-g4 Ng5-e4 Kc4-b5
11/25 00:00 331k 3.033k -1,88 Ng4xe3 Bb4-a5 Bd1-e2 c5-c4 Kd6-d5 Kh7-g7 Be2-d1 Na6-b8 Ne3xc4 Ba5-d8 Nc4-e5 Kg7-f6 Bd1-c2
11/22+ 00:00 358k 2.868k -1,75 Kd6-c6 Ng5-e6 Kc6-b7 Na6-c7 d7-d8Q Ne6xd8+ Kb7xc7 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Nd8-e6+ Kc7-b7 Ne6-d4 Be2-d3+ Kh7-g7 Ng4-e3
12/32+ 00:00 516k 3.001k -1,67 Kd6-c6 Ng5-e6 Ng4xe3 Ne6-d8+ Kc6-b6 Na6-b8 Bd1-a4 Kh7-g7 Kb6-c7
13/34 00:00 795k 3.181k -1,61 Kd6-c6 Ng5-e6 Ng4xe3 Ne6-d8+ Kc6-b6 Na6-b8 Bd1-a4 Nd8-e6 Kb6-b7 Nb8xd7 Ba4xd7 Ne6-d4 Ne3-c2 Kh7-g6 Nc2xd4 c5xd4 Bd7-b5 Kg6-g5 Bb5-d3 Bb4-d6 Kb7-c6 Bd6xg3 Kc6-d5
13/33+ 00:00 950k 3.200k -1,51 d7-d8Q Ng5-f7+ Kd6-e7 Nf7xd8 Ke7xd8 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Bb4-a5+ Kd8-d7 Na6-b4 Ng4-e3 Kh7-g7 Be2-d1 Ba5-b6 Kd7-d6 Kg7-g6 Bd1-b3 Kg6-g5 Bb3-d1 Bb6-a5 Kd6xc5
14/38 00:00 1.439k 3.292k -1,33 d7-d8Q Ng5-f7+ Kd6-e7 Nf7xd8 Ke7xd8 Bb4-a5+ Kd8-d7 Ba5-c7 Ng4xe3 Bc7xg3 Kd7-c6 h6-h5 Bd1-c2+ Kh7-g8 Ne3-d5 h5-h4 Kc6-b5 Na6-b8 Nd5xc3 Bg3-e5 Nc3-d5 h4-h3 Bc2-e4
15/37 00:00 2.176k 3.395k -1,26 d7-d8Q Ng5-f7+ Kd6-e7 Nf7xd8 Ke7xd8 Bb4-a5+ Kd8-d7 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Na6-b4 Ng4-e3 Kh7-g6 Be2-d1 Ba5-b6 Kd7-d6 Bb6-a7 Bd1-f3 Kg6-g5 Bf3-e4 c5-c4 Ne3-c2 Nb4-d3 Kd6-d5 Nd3-b2 Kd5-e5
15/36+ 00:00 2.498k 3.403k -1,25 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Ng5-f7+ Kd6-e6 Nf7xd8+ Ke6-f5 e3-e2 Bc2-e4
16/38+ 00:00 2.697k 3.384k -1,17 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Ng5-f7+ Kd6-e6 Nf7xd8+ Ke6-f5 e3-e2 Bc2-e4
17/40+ 00:00 3.179k 3.393k -1,01 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Ng5-f7+ Kd6-e6 Nf7xd8+ Ke6-f5 e3-e2 Bc2-e4
18/40+ 00:01 4.772k 3.431k -0,69 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Qd8-e8 c5-c4+ Kd6-c6 Kg4-f3 Bc2-d1+ Kf3-f2 Qe8-e5 Ng5-f3 Qe5-f4 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Kf2xe2 Kc6-b5 Bb4-a3 Kb5xa6 c3-c2 Qf4xc4+ Ke2-f2 Qc4xc2+
19/44+ 00:02 8.733k 3.493k -0,05 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Qd8-e8 c5-c4+ Kd6-c6 Kg4-f3 Bc2-d1+ Kf3-f2 Qe8-e5 c3-c2 Qe5-f5+ Kf2-e1 Qf5xc2 Bb4-d2 Kc6-b5 Na6-b4 Qc2-b1 e3-e2 Bd1xe2+ Ke1xe2 Kb5xc4 Ke2-f2 Qb1-g6
20/58+ 00:08 28.024k 3.510k +1,23 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Qd8-e8 c5-c4+ Kd6-c6 Bb4-a3 Bc2-d1+ Kg4-h3 Qe8xe3 c3-c2 g3-g4+ Kh3-h4 Qe3-e1+ Kh4-h3 Qe1-c3+ Kh3-h4 Bd1xc2 Na6-b4+ Kc6-b5 Nb4xc2 Qc3xc2 Kh4xg4 Qc2xc4+ Kg4-h5 Qc4-e2+ Kh5-h4 Qe2-e1+
21/73 00:48 172.197k 3.516k +2,46 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Kd6-c6 Bb4-a3 Qd8-c8+ Kg4-f3 Bc2-d1+ e3-e2 Bd1xe2+ Kf3xe2 Qc8xa6+ Ke2-d2 Qa6xa3 c3-c2 Qa3-a5+ Kd2-d3 Qa5xc5 Ng5-e4 Qc5-d5+ Kd3-c3 Qd5-e5+ Kc3-d3 Qe5-f4 h6-h5 Kc6-b6 Ne4-c3 Qf4-d6+ Kd3-e3 Qd6-e5+ Ke3-d3 Qe5-f5+ Kd3-d2 Qf5-g5+ Kd2-d3 Qg5-g6+ Kd3-d2 Qg6-h6+ Kd2-d3 Kb6-a6 Nc3-e2 Qh6-g6+ Kd3-d2 Qg6-g5+ Kd2-e1 Qg5-a5+ Ke1-d1 Qa5-d5+ Kd1-e1 Qd5-h1+ Ke1-d2
22/70+ 01:04 227.280k 3.516k +2,54 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Kd6-c6 Bb4-a3 Qd8-d1+ Kg4xg3 Qd1-e1+ Kg3-f4 Qe1-f1+ Ng5-f3 Bc2-d1 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Na6-b4+ Kc6-b5 Kf4-e3 Qf1xf3+ Ke3-d2 Be2-c4 c3-c2 Qf3-f4+ Kd2-c3 Qf4-f6+ Kc3-d2 Qf6xh6+ Kd2-c3 Qh6-e3+ Kc3-b2 Qe3-b3+ Kb2-c1 Qb3xa3+ Kc1-d2 Qa3-b2
23/64+ 01:17 315.075k 3.489k +2,62 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Kd6-c6 Bb4-a3 Qd8-d1+ Kg4xg3 Qd1-e1+ Kg3-f4 Qe1-f1+ Ng5-f3 Bc2-d1 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Na6-b4+ Kc6-b5 Kf4-e3 Qf1xf3+ Ke3-d2 Be2-c4 c3-c2 Qf3-f4+ Kd2-c3 Qf4-f6+ Kc3-d2 Qf6xh6+ Kd2-c3 Qh6-e3+ Kc3-b2 Qe3-b3+ Kb2-c1 Qb3xa3+ Kc1-d2 Qa3-b2
24/66+ 01:37 516.791k 3.503k +2,78 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Kd6-c6 Bb4-a3 Qd8-d1+ Kg4xg3 Qd1-e1+ Kg3-f4 Qe1-f1+ Ng5-f3 Bc2-d1 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Na6-b4+ Kc6-b5 Kf4-e3 Qf1xf3+ Ke3-d2 Be2-c4 c3-c2 Qf3-f4+ Kd2-c3 Qf4-f6+ Kc3-d2 Qf6xh6+ Kd2-c3 Qh6-e3+ Kc3-b2 Qe3-b3+ Kb2-c1 Qb3xa3+ Kc1-d2 Qa3-b2
25/78+ 01:58 728.873k 3.522k +3,10 Ng4-f6+ Kh7-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6 Bd1-c2+ Kg6xh5 d7-d8Q Kh5-g4 Kd6-c6 Bb4-a3 Qd8-d1+ Kg4xg3 Qd1-e1+ Kg3-f4 Qe1-f1+ Ng5-f3 Bc2-d1 e3-e2 Bd1xe2 Na6-b4+ Kc6-b5 Kf4-e3 Qf1xf3+ Ke3-d2 Be2-c4 c3-c2 Qf3-f4+ Kd2-c3 Qf4-f6+ Kc3-d2 Qf6xh6+ Kd2-c3 Qh6-e3+ Kc3-b2 Qe3-b3+ Kb2-c1 Qb3xa3+ Kc1-d2 Qa3-b2

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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by zullil » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:37 pm

thewhip wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:34 pm
The objective is to get the pawn to become queen while preventing the knight from taking it.
This is how my engine handled it in less than 1 second!

Spitter 2.1 X64:
How does your engine do with this? It's another Stockfish killer.


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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by corres » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:54 pm

Some arbitrarily chose position is not suitable do decide about an engine is good or not.
In the evaluation of every engine there are "dark stains".
So only engine-engine matches can show the real power of engines.

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Re: How good is your engine?

Post by thewhip » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:16 pm

corres wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:54 pm
Some arbitrarily chose position is not suitable do decide about an engine is good or not.
In the evaluation of every engine there are "dark stains".
So only engine-engine matches can show the real power of engines.
Capablanca was a genius for playing game endings and was also a Chess World Champion.
The problem I left on this topic was solved by Tahl and he was also the Chess World Champion.
So a good engine is one that can solve a problem and also be a Champion in engine vs engine match.

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