StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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kranium
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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Rebel wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:44 pm Can't share the joy, ran 200 games (40/240 six seconds per move) against SF11 and got 36 - 50 - 114 = 46.5%

Makes me wonder if I am using the correct StockFINN version.

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It's only $3.00 per month:
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muppetmuppet
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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500n/s is very slow what is your sf dev nodes/sec? I get about 75% of sf speed on nnue. cccc seem to get about 60%. Some people get 50%.
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Rebel
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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muppetmuppet wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:08 pm 500n/s is very slow what is your sf dev nodes/sec? I get about 75% of sf speed on nnue. cccc seem to get about 60%. Some people get 50%.
SF11 bench gives 1.7 million nps.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
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Rebel
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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kranium wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:15 pm
Rebel wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:44 pm Can't share the joy, ran 200 games (40/240 six seconds per move) against SF11 and got 36 - 50 - 114 = 46.5%

Makes me wonder if I am using the correct StockFINN version.

Bench
Nodes searched : 3.857.236
Nodes / Second : 501.330
It's only $3.00 per month:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/stockfinn-0-1-38717611
What would be benefit?
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
kranium
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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Rebel wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:17 pm
kranium wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:15 pm
Rebel wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:44 pm Can't share the joy, ran 200 games (40/240 six seconds per move) against SF11 and got 36 - 50 - 114 = 46.5%

Makes me wonder if I am using the correct StockFINN version.

Bench
Nodes searched : 3.857.236
Nodes / Second : 501.330
It's only $3.00 per month:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/stockfinn-0-1-38717611
What would be benefit?
I don't know
but that's the site you got it from right?
I guess you'd have to ask him that
jjoshua2
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

Post by jjoshua2 »

I think there is some confusion. StockFiNN 0.1 is public, but 0.2 is still in early access to patrons for a bit longer. The most recent good results of being like +30 or +40 elo to SF-dev is from the 0.2, and 0.1 is probably weaker. But having clearly named and versioned and increasing strength releases makes everything a lot easier for normal users than just releasing hundreds of nets and binaries and having to refer to everything by dates and checksums and file sizes.
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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Thanks for StockFinn!! It already helped me to solve a very deep position :-)
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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cdani wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:02 am Thanks for StockFinn!! It already helped me to solve a very deep position :-)
Andscacs_NNUE ? :?
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Ovyron
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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jjoshua2 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:45 am But having clearly named and versioned and increasing strength releases makes everything a lot easier for normal users
This should be an user choice, hiding 0.2 behind a paywall eliminates this choice.
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Re: StockFiNN Release and Scaling

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Ovyron wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:22 am
jjoshua2 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:45 am But having clearly named and versioned and increasing strength releases makes everything a lot easier for normal users
This should be an user choice, hiding 0.2 behind a paywall eliminates this choice.
Why? If you're seriously interested, you wouldn't really mind 3$/month (which, by the way is rather the min. abo for Leelenstein at same site of the given link, isn't it?) and it could help to support the development. I would pay something like that gladly for the becoming better and better nets only, in this way the engine could stay GPL legally and yet have a commercial and professional support, couldn't it? Same as for Fat Fritz?
Go StockFiNN go!
:)
Peter.