Sergio Vieri second net is out

[MMarco]

Can someone with good hardware test this one?

Size=256. By ribbit on discord.

"My first little 256 network.. I tested it on Honey-XI-NN with pretty good result against stockfish-dev and Leela ... (d24 validation used, 6menTB)

ribbit_0.1 - https://rapidu.net/9571752717/nn.bin "

This ribbit net is the same net as the much discussed 1134.

Nice catch!

Sorry for everyone. I took this on the Discord channel and I didn't verify anything (nor I didn't have the time to test 1134 yet).

[Werner]

Thanks Ed,
I downloaded and compared it.
I made a message on discord too - hopefully will be deleted soon.

[MikeB]

Another quick test of 2344 against H6.03 using Nunn1 openings, G10s+0.2s - result +11 =8 -1.

Here is a crazy sacrifice by SFnnue on move 13. Of course - usual disclaimers and as Mike would say yomv and ymmv.

[Event "SF-NNUE - Houdini 6.03, Nunn1, G10s + 0.2s"] [Site "Home"] [Date "2020.07.25"] [Round "1"] [White "Stockfish+NNUE"] [Black "Houdini 6.03"] [Result "1-0"] [TimeControl "10+0.2"] [Time "17:49:43"] [Board "9"] [Termination "adjudication by engines' scores"] [ECO "D11"] [Opening "QGD Slav"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 {D11: QGD Slav, 3.Nf3} e6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Bg5 Be7 7. Qc2 Nbd7 8. e3 O-O 9. Bd3 Re8 10. O-O Nf8 {End of opening} 11. h3 {+0.55/21 1.7 1825739} Ne4 {-0.29/16 0.8 1659811} 12. Bf4 {+0.57/15 0.3 340609} f5 {-0.29/15 0.5 1077857} 13. Nxd5 {+2.78/17 0.3 365358} cxd5 {+2.19/14 0.2 541228} 14. Bc7 {-2.63/19 0.6 586658} Qd7 {+2.19/15 0.4 804820} 15. Rfc1 {-2.40/18 0.3 305302} a6 {+2.04/17 1.1 2499173} 16. Qb3 {-2.44/19 0.4 428054} Qe6 {+1.94/17 0.5 1132772} 17. Rc2 {-2.32/17 0.3 291583} b5 {+1.87/18 1.0 2388891} 18. Ne5 {-1.83/17 0.6 596654} Bb7 {+1.99/15 0.3 587827} 19. a4 {-1.68/21 1.1 1189223} b4 {+1.31/16 1.0 2281160} 20. f3 {-1.84/19 0.4 414811} Ng3 {+1.69/15 0.2 526878} 21. Rac1 {-0.68/17 0.4 413539} Qh6 {+0.89/17 1.9 4376992} 22. f4 {+0.00/20 0.2 258037} Ne6 {+0.78/17 0.8 1960946} 23. Rc6 {+0.00/20 0.4 479539} Rec8 {+0.49/17 0.9 2314155} 24. Rb6 {+0.00/20 0.3 363630} Ra7 {+1.47/12 0.2 418161} 25. Kh2 {+0.00/21 0.3 296852} Ne4 {-0.22/17 0.7 1695180} 26. Bxe4 {+1.25/19 0.3 307773} fxe4 {-0.22/16 0.0 637} 27. Qd1 {+1.91/23 1.9 2128183} Re8 {-0.73/19 1.1 2793150} 28. a5 {+3.28/17 0.2 208229} Qf6 {-1.09/18 0.9 2123492} 29. Qa4 {+3.83/21 0.3 350003} Rea8 {-1.21/19 0.4 1173762} 30. f5 {+3.02/23 0.8 895388} Qxf5 {-1.21/18 0.0 2235} 31. Qd7 {+4.07/19 0.2 282314} Bf8 {-1.31/19 0.4 974990} 32. Qxe6+ {+3.94/21 0.5 615758} Qxe6 {-1.20/18 0.3 819661} 33. Rxe6 {+4.06/21 0.3 422568} Rc8 {-1.35/19 0.3 1033236} 34. Kg3 {+4.81/19 0.3 344820} g6 {-1.55/17 0.6 1706853} 35. Rf1 {+4.70/17 0.3 399405} Ba8 {-2.14/17 0.4 952201} 36. Bd6 {+5.59/18 0.3 380173} Bg7 {-2.34/15 0.2 546724} 37. Kh4 {+6.52/17 0.2 270354} Kh8 {-2.27/14 0.2 544657} 38. Kg5 {+7.02/18 0.3 316968} Kg8 {-2.03/14 0.1 320824} 39. g4 {+7.70/18 0.3 413143} b3 {-2.38/15 0.3 742604} 40. h4 {+8.11/19 0.4 558349} Bh8 {-2.84/15 0.2 553155} 41. h5 {+8.56/18 0.3 419325} gxh5 {-2.91/17 0.2 474664} 42. gxh5 {+8.93/18 0.3 455113} Rd8 {-3.47/13 0.2 646262} 43. Ng4 {+9.46/18 0.4 506316} Bg7 {-6.58/15 0.2 586254} 44. Nh6+ {+9.53/16 0.1 155076} Bxh6+ {-6.46/18 0.2 615138} 45. Kxh6 {+11.84/19 0.2 245093} Rad7 {-5.65/16 0.1 312964} 46. Bc5 {+12.79/22 0.2 318832} Rc8 {-8.61/17 0.3 950241} 47. Ref6 {+18.81/29 0.2 309342} Rdd8 {-17.45/21 0.2 743347} 48. Be7 {M+7/41 0.2 353040} Bb7 {M-6/21 0.0 107765} 49. Rg1+ {M+6/51 0.2 326491} Kh8 {M-5/11 0.0 724} 1-0

Nice game

2344 will soon be "my" KOM at least, after 1134 's "lucky" run to stay on top of the heap. yomv and ymmv

two threads here - - not that it matters but these nets seem to test at very stable scaling once you get near 30+.03 or with SMP I will do that tc next with the same two nets to to see how close it it.

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pgn file: c:/cluster.mfb/pgn/2007250307-23441134.pgn
tc/base+inc: 60+0.60
games planned: 4000
Threads: 2
Hash: 256

Current date : time (EDST)
Date: 07/25/20 : 08:42:00

Projected-> Time: 8h:32m:0s
Running  -> Time: 5h:34m:47s

2808 game(s) loaded
Rank Name  Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

   1 2344   3502   0.0    8    8  2808 1418.5  50.5  644  615 1549  22.9  55.2  3498
   2 1134   3498   3.8    8    8  2808 1389.5  49.5  615  644 1549  21.9  55.2  3502
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  Δ = delta from the next higher rated opponent
  # = number of games played
  Σ = total score, 1 point for win, 1/2 point for draw

LOS:
      23 11
2344     81
1134  18

2808 game(s) loaded

loops/scheduled: 149/228

waiting: 128
  ...seconds remaining:   128

[cdani]

2344

For me the best net was 20200723-0511. Comparing it against 20200724-2344 after 1500 games 20+0.1 probably does not change this:

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   # PLAYER                       : RATING  ERROR   POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 stnnuesergio20200723-0511    : 2859.0    4.5    792.0    1558   50.8%
   2 stnnuesergio20200724-2344    : 2853.0    4.5    766.0    1558   49.2%

[cdani]

Someone tested experimental nets? I don't see many comments about them.

[Laskos]

Someone tested experimental nets? I don't see many comments about them.

Two of them, happened to be weak, 20 or so Elo points weaker than the best.
My best one is 2141 from 22.07, one before yours.

[cdani]

My best one is 2141 from 22.07, one before yours.

Not enough games:

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20+0.1
   # PLAYER                       : RATING  ERROR   POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 stnnuesergio20200723-0511    : 2857.0    2.9   1706.5    3393   50.3%
   2 stnnuesergio20200722-2141    : 2855.0    2.9   1686.5    3393   49.7%

[Laskos]

My best one is 2141 from 22.07, one before yours.

Not enough games:

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20+0.1
   # PLAYER                       : RATING  ERROR   POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 stnnuesergio20200723-0511    : 2857.0    2.9   1706.5    3393   50.3%
   2 stnnuesergio20200722-2141    : 2855.0    2.9   1686.5    3393   49.7%

Thanks, so your is the last of the series of usually improving nets (20-22 July up to yours of early 23). Then something happened, Sergio started experimenting, probably LR dropped too much.

[cdani]

20200725-2051.bin seems better than 20200723-0511 after a few hundred games. I publish the test later with more games.

[Laskos]

20200725-2051.bin seems better than 20200723-0511 after a few hundred games. I publish the test later with more games.

About equal here after 500 games (to 2141).