Re: What are Stockfish and Komodo estimated rating for these 5 depths ?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:38 am
Here is at depth 7 Jorge was a little bit too much for Komodo 13.3 Time Control 10 + 5 sec increment, I just lost another $50.00lkaufman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:52 amI'm playing in the U.S. Senior tournament of state champions this weekend (online on chess.com) so I won't have time until at least Monday, but I would like to do this. But please keep in mind that although I might have been close to the same level as Jorge nearly twenty years ago, I'm a lot weaker than he is now, the difference might be more like 2 plies depth than 1.Chessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:41 amBefore I test it against Jorge Sammour I would like you to play at least 1 game at TC 10 + 5 sec increment with depth 6 and one with depth 7lkaufman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:48 amChessqueen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:12 pmLarry what depth do you think that Jorge Sammour should play versus Komodo 13.3 at time control of 10 + 5 Sec increment, Depth 6 or Depth 7 ?Chessqueen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:38 pmYou are correct Uri, it is NOT enough. Chess is harder than what people think, but there are gifted child, but even if they are 1 week is NOT enough. Talking from my own experience I started to take lesson from an online IM instructor and after 10 months of him guiding me and telling me to get a different chess book every months and testing me on what I should have learned from those books, and providing me with guided tactical positions to solves every week as I progress, different endgames books, strategies books and testing my comprehension of those books every other week, and giving different positions and asking me to take my time and answer what would be the best move to play and explain the reason why to him, anyway after 10 long months all that I have manage to accomplish is to draw versus Komodo 13.3 at Depth 4 in time control of 10 + 5 minutes, sometime I feel like I have wasted my money, but my trainer was very happy that I drew versus Komodo at depth 4. He simply put it this way you started training with me and you were a low 1300 to 1350 at your best and you have learned so much in 10 months which is what he expected me, since I am NOT a genius or gifted person like so many. All that I have to say is that there is so much to learn in chess, that the more you learn the more there is to keep on learning. I will be happy when I could beat Komodo 14 at Depth 5 Time control 10+5 sec increment and it might be harder to do because with every version of Komodo the harder it becomes
Well, since Alex Lenderman was a close match (maybe a slight underdog) vs. Komodo Skill 21 at 3' + 2", and Skill 21 is basically depth 8 with some randomization and limited book depth, he would probably be favored slightly against depth 7 with full opening book on one thread. Jorge is about a class below Lenderman in rating, but 5x the time limit should offset this, so I would bet on Jorge vs depth 7 but I would bet on Komodo using depth 8 (with a good opening book in each case).
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=5300363
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2020.07.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo-13.3-64bit"]
[Black "Jorge Sammour"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2458"]
[ECO "B02"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "18:11:03"]
[Variation "Two Pawns Attack, 5.Nc3"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "86"]
1. e4 {(e2-e4 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 d2-d4 d7-d5 e4xd5) +0.38/8 0} Nf6 2. e5
{(e4-e5 Nf6-d5 d2-d4 Nb8-c6 c2-c4 Nd5-b4 Nb1-c3 d7-d5) +0.89/8 0} Nd5 3. c4
{(c2-c4 Nd5-b4 a2-a3 Nb4-c6 d2-d4 d7-d5 e5xd6/ep e7xd6) +0.89/8} Nb6 4. c5
{(c4-c5 Nb6-d5 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 d2-d4 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bf8-e7) +1.02/8 0} Nd5 5.
Nc3 {(Nb1-c3 Nd5xc3 d2xc3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 Bc1-g5 Bf8-e7) +1.02/8} e6 6.
d4 {(d2-d4 Nb8-c6 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ng1-f3 d7-d6 Bc1-g5 Bf8-e7) +0.87/8 0} d6 7.
Ne4 {(Nc3-e4 Nb8-c6 Bc1-g5) +0.84/8 0} dxe5 8. dxe5 {(d4xe5 Nb8-d7 Bc1-g5)
+0.45/8 0} Nd7 9. Nf3 {(Ng1-f3 Nd7xc5 Bf1-d3 Nc5xd3+ Qd1xd3 Bf8-b4+ Bc1-d2
Bb4xd2+ Ne4xd2 O-O O-O Nd5-b4) +0.45/8} Nxc5 10. Nxc5 {(Ne4xc5 Bf8xc5
Bf1-c4 Nd5-b6 Qd1xd8+ Ke8xd8 Bc4-d3 Nb6-d5 Bc1-d2) +0.45/8} Bxc5 11. Bc4
{(Bf1-c4 Nd5-b6 Qd1xd8+ Ke8xd8 Bc4-d3 f7-f6 Bc1-d2 Nb6-d7 e5xf6) +0.45/8}
Be7 12. O-O {(O-O O-O Bc4-d3) +0.03/8 0} c5 13. Qb3 {(Qd1-b3 O-O Rf1-d1
Qd8-d7 Bc4xd5 e6xd5 Rd1xd5 Qd7-e6) +0.32/8 0} O-O 14. Rd1 {(Rf1-d1 Qd8-b6
Bc4xd5 e6xd5 Qb3xd5 Bc8-f5 h2-h3 Ra8-d8) +0.32/8} b6 15. Bd2 {(Bc1-d2
Bc8-b7 Qb3-d3 h7-h6 a2-a4 Qd8-e8 h2-h3 Ra8-d8) -0.15/8 0} a5 16. a4 {(a2-a4
Bc8-a6 Bc4xa6 Ra8xa6 Qb3-d3 Ra6-a7 h2-h3 Ra7-d7) -0.37/8 0} Bb7 17. Bb5
{(Bc4-b5 Bb7-a6 Bb5xa6 Ra8xa6 Kg1-h1 h7-h6 h2-h3 Ra6-a7) -0.42/8 0} Qc7 18.
Qc2 {(Qb3-c2 Ra8-d8 Nf3-g5 Be7xg5 Bd2xg5 Qc7xe5 Bg5xd8) -0.58/8 0} Rfd8 19.
Ng5 {(Nf3-g5 Be7xg5 Bd2xg5 Qc7xe5 Bg5xd8 Ra8xd8 Qc2-e2 Qe5-f4) -0.36/8 0}
g6 20. Qe4 {(Qc2-e4 Nd5-c3 Qe4-f4 Be7xg5 Qf4xg5 Nc3xd1 Ra1xd1 Rd8-d4)
-1.49/8 0} Nc3 21. Qh4 {(Qe4-h4 Be7xg5 Qh4xg5 Nc3xd1 Ra1xd1 Bb7-c6 f2-f3
Bc6xb5) -1.49/8} Bxg5 22. Qxg5 {(Qh4xg5 Nc3xd1 Ra1xd1 Bb7-c6 f2-f3 Bc6xb5
a4xb5 Rd8-d5) -1.49/8} Nxd1 23. Rxd1 {(Ra1xd1 Rd8-d5 f2-f3 Qc7xe5 Qg5xe5
Rd5xe5 h2-h3 Re5-d5) -1.49/8} Bc6 24. Bxc6 {(Bb5xc6 Qc7xc6 Qg5-f4 Rd8-d5
g2-g3 Ra8-d8 Qf4-e4 c5-c4) -2.91/8 0} Qxc6 25. Ra1 {(Rd1-a1 Rd8-d5 b2-b3)
-2.91/8} Qd5 26. Be1 {(Bd2-e1 Qd5-d4 Qg5-c1 Qd4xe5 Be1-c3 Qe5-e2 Bc3-f6
Rd8-d5) -3.68/8 0} Qb3 27. Qc1 {(Qg5-c1 Rd8-d5 Qc1-c3 Qb3xc3 Be1xc3 Ra8-d8
f2-f3 Kg8-g7) -3.52/8 0} Rd3 28. f3 {(f2-f3 Ra8-d8 Ra1-a3 Qb3-d1 Qc1xd1
Rd3xd1 Kg1-f2 Rd8-d5 Ra3-e3) -3.68/8 0} Rad8 29. Ra3 {(Ra1-a3 Qb3-d5 Ra3xd3
Qd5xd3 Qc1-g5 Rd8-d4 Qg5-f6 Qd3-e3+ Kg1-f1) -3.68/8 0} Qd1 30. Qxd1
{(Qc1xd1 Rd3xd1 Kg1-f2 Rd8-d5 Be1-c3 Rd1-c1 Kf2-e3 Rc1-c2) -3.35/8 0} Rxd1
31. Kf2 {(Kg1-f2 Rd8-d5 Be1-c3 c5-c4 b2-b3 Rd5-c5 b3xc4 Rc5xc4) -3.35/8 0}
Rc1 32. Rb3 {(Ra3-b3 Rd8-d4 Rb3xb6 Rd4xa4 h2-h3 Kg8-g7 Rb6-b5 Rc1-c2+
Kf2-f1) -3.20/8 0} Rdd1 33. Bc3 {(Be1-c3 Rc1-c2+ Kf2-e3 Rc2xg2 Rb3xb6
Rd1-d5 h2-h3 Rg2-h2 Rb6-b5) -2.98/8 0} Rc2+ 34. Ke3 {(Kf2-e3 Rc2xg2 Rb3xb6
Rd1-d5 Rb6-b5 h7-h5 h2-h3 Rg2-h2) -2.98/8} c4 35. Rxb6 {(Rb3xb6 Rd1-d3+
Ke3-f4 Rc2xg2 h2-h4 Kg8-g7 Rb6-b5 Rg2-h2 Rb5xa5) -3.23/8 0} Rd3+ 36. Kf4
{(Ke3-f4 Rc2xg2 h2-h4) -3.23/8} Rxg2 37. h4 {(h2-h4 Rg2-f2 Rb6-b5 Rd3xf3+
Kf4-e4 Rf3-f4+ Ke4-e3 Rf2-f3+ Ke3-e2 Rf3-d3 Rb5xa5 Rf4xh4) -3.23/8} h6 38.
Ke4 {(Kf4-e4 Rg2-e2+ Ke4-f4 Re2-f2 Kf4-e4 Rf2xf3 Rb6-c6 Rf3-e3+ Ke4-f4
Re3-h3) -3.98/8 0} g5 39. hxg5 {(h4xg5 h6xg5 Rb6-b8+ Kg8-g7 Rb8-g8+ Kg7xg8
Bc3-d4 Rg2-e2+ Bd4-e3 Re2xe3+) -M5/8 0} hxg5 40. Rb8+ {(Rb6-b8+ Kg8-g7
Rb8-g8+ Kg7xg8 Bc3-d4 Rg2-e2+ Bd4-e3 Re2xe3+) -M5/8} Kg7 41. Rg8+ {(Rb8-g8+
Kg7xg8 Bc3-d4 Rg2-e2+ Bd4-e3 Re2xe3+) -M5/8} Kxg8 42. Bd4 {(Bc3-d4 Rg2-e2+
Bd4-e3 Re2xe3+) -M5/8} Re2+ 43. Be3 {(Bd4-e3 Re2xe3+) -M5/8 White resigns}
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