I will be starting a new tourney and just curious as to whether anyone would care to guess who will win of these programs:
asmfish 2017 11 19
Komodo 13.3 (Aggressive)
Honey x6
Critter 1.6a x 64
Komodo 14
Wasp 3.75
xiphos 0.6
Stockfish 11
Not sure which opening to use, maybe the Benko Gambit or Falkbeer Counter Gambit - any suggestions? Tourney would be either a 2 RR 15 or 20 minute/ea per game.
Just curious
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Dann Corbit
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Re: Just curious
There is a tournament group, just next door. It's called "Tournaments and Matches":
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewforum.php?f=6
I guess one of the Stockfish programs will win (Asmfish, Honey, SF)
For openings, I suggest the two moves book of Kai, found in this thread:
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... 5&start=30
Direct link:
http://talkchess.com/forum3/download/file.php?id=884
It's designed for firecracker chess, without a rolling sea of draws.
Personally, I would run an Orangutan tournament, but I would be the only person watching, so you may not be all that keen on it.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewforum.php?f=6
I guess one of the Stockfish programs will win (Asmfish, Honey, SF)
For openings, I suggest the two moves book of Kai, found in this thread:
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... 5&start=30
Direct link:
http://talkchess.com/forum3/download/file.php?id=884
It's designed for firecracker chess, without a rolling sea of draws.
Personally, I would run an Orangutan tournament, but I would be the only person watching, so you may not be all that keen on it.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Just curious
Hi there,[Event "FEOBOS, Rank 00001"]
[Site "Trier"]
[Date "2018.01.29"]
[Round "20"]
[White "N.N."]
[Black "N.N."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "3000"]
[BlackElo "3000"]
[ECO "E11"]
[EventDate "2018.01.29"]
[PlyCount "14"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
[Source "Frank Quisinsky"]
{Game 21654}
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Nf3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Be7 6. Bg2 O-O 7. O-O c6
1/2-1/2
with FEOBOS we created a ranking system to all of the 41.614 positions, 3 moves after ECO codes formed.
On place 1 the end position 21654!
FEOBOS PGN is sorted with the ranking system!
Very interesting position, have a reason why this position is on ranking place 1.
Shortly ...
10 engines checked with 1 minute and 10 Cores the endpositions.
After 10 engines analyses, 9 of 10 engines found an other best move. And all of the 9 different best moves are balanced. So with this position the biggest tree can be produced.
Thats sensational that we have a balanced position so many different good moves, 3 moves after ECO formend, are possible. This is the once position with 9 different best moves for the group of 10 engines.
If I have nothing to do and many time for chess ...
I used this position for smaller tourneys, or FEOBOS ranking place 2, 3, 4 ...
Wasp and Critter will have no chance in this group of engines.
If you like to see short games, you should Critter replace with Rypka in this group of engines.
Here the short game statistisc from the still running FCP Tourney-2020.
Many users are thinking I will play a small tourney with most aggressive engines and will have fun.
That is wrong, have a look how many games, engines like xiphos, Komodo, Stockfish lost fast.
Critter is only on place 30 in this group, Wasp is on place 19.
From the 6 short lost games from Wast are 5 vs. Stockfish, Komodo, Ethereal.
Stockfish is 350 Elo stronger as Wasp (for an example).
Best
Frank
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Statistics after R17 (680 games per engine):
742 of 13.940 = 5,32% : Fast won/lost games below 60 moves (with mate ended)
244 of 13.940 = 1,75% : Fast won/lost games below 50 moves (with mate ended)
520 of 13.940 = 3,73% : Fast draw games below 40 moves
174 of 13.940 = 1,24% : Fast draw games below 30 moves
won59 lost59 draw39 won49w won49b lost49w lost49b draw29
01. Stockfish 11 BMI2 x64 86 0 24 24 5 0 0 14
02. Houdini 6.03 Pro x64 58 0 20 15 4 0 0 6
03. Komodo 14.0 BMI2 x64 53 0 29 8 6 0 0 10
04. SlowChess BC 2.2 x64 39 1 37 7 5 0 0 10
05. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64 36 8 28 5 6 0 3 4
06. Ethereal 12.25 PEXT x64 35 0 26 9 3 0 0 15
07. Booot 6.4 POP x64 35 0 39 7 4 0 0 12
08. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64 32 0 28 8 2 0 0 11
09. Andscacs 0.95 BMI2 x64 31 5 28 5 3 0 2 7
10. Schooner 2.2 SSE x64 25 1 31 8 4 0 0 10
11. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64 25 3 28 7 4 0 0 8
12. Defenchess 2.2 POP x64 23 1 29 6 3 0 0 10
13. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64 22 0 29 0 4 0 0 13
14. Fire 7.1 POP x64 20 2 37 6 1 0 0 15
15. Pedone 2.0 BMI2 x64 19 10 20 4 3 0 0 3
16. Arasan 22.0 BMI2 x64 18 11 25 3 2 1 1 6
17. rofChade 2.3 BMI x64 17 4 26 2 1 0 1 7
18. Chiron 4 x64 17 13 19 7 0 0 0 5
19. Wasp 4.00 Modern x64 16 6 21 5 1 0 2 7
20. Shredder 13 x64 14 8 22 2 0 0 4 8
21. Texel 1.07 BMI2 x64 11 27 19 4 0 3 6 10
22. RubiChess 1.7.3 x64 10 7 41 5 1 0 0 11
23. Nemorino 5.00 BMI2 x64 9 31 18 4 1 5 5 7
24. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64 8 7 27 1 0 1 2 8
25. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64 8 17 22 3 0 1 2 5
26. Protector 1.9.0 x64 8 20 21 1 2 1 6 7
27. Fritz 16 (Rybka) x64 8 43 27 1 1 7 15 7
28. Winter 0.8 x64 7 44 19 0 2 2 11 6
29. Demolito 2020-05-14 PEXT x64 6 20 10 0 1 2 1 1
30. Critter 1.6a x64 6 23 20 2 2 1 5 9
31. Nirvanachess 2.4 POP x64 6 27 33 1 0 0 6 11
32. Minic 2.33 x64 5 45 22 1 1 3 15 7
33. Senpai 2.0 BMI2 x64 5 49 26 2 0 11 13 6
34. SmarThink 1.98 AVX2 x64 5 59 16 0 2 4 13 5
35. Igel 2.5.0 BMI2 x64 4 20 32 1 1 4 6 9
36. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64 4 24 24 1 0 2 1 11
37. Rodent IV 0.22 POP x64 3 28 29 0 0 2 7 12
38. Equinox 3.30 x64 3 29 24 1 0 3 6 12
39. Monolith 2 PEXT x64 3 49 28 2 0 4 6 12
40. Hannibal 1.7 x64 2 30 12 1 0 2 6 2
41. Combusken 1.2.0 x64 1 69 24 0 0 16 24 9