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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Damir » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:31 pm

plus you will have to delete 7-Zip file from your comp once you have load the engine.... it is double work all over...

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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by tmokonen » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:04 pm

I know that madly downloading everything must seem really stupid to a lot of people. Even I often question what the hell I am doing. It's like an addiction. I guess in a way it makes me feel like I am preserving a piece of history. Engine sites tend not to have a long shelf life, so I try and get while the getting is good, before a site goes offline and downloads disappear forever.

A few years ago, I had read that Robert Hyatt had a problem with his backups of Crafty, and as a result we are no longer able to download those ancient version of Crafty, because no one had preserved them. That story pained me, as Crafty really is an important part of computer chess history. Incidents like this are what motivate me to do what I do.

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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Alayan » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:21 pm

Storing Stockfish's git history and the default nets is much more space efficient than storing every single compile. If the purpose is to "preserve history", this is more effective.

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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:36 am

tmokonen wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:04 pm
I know that madly downloading everything must seem really stupid to a lot of people. Even I often question what the hell I am doing. It's like an addiction. I guess in a way it makes me feel like I am preserving a piece of history. Engine sites tend not to have a long shelf life, so I try and get while the getting is good, before a site goes offline and downloads disappear forever.

A few years ago, I had read that Robert Hyatt had a problem with his backups of Crafty, and as a result we are no longer able to download those ancient version of Crafty, because no one had preserved them. That story pained me, as Crafty really is an important part of computer chess history. Incidents like this are what motivate me to do what I do.
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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Gabor Szots » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am

Vinvin wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:08 pm
Alayan wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:12 pm
It seems 20MB of disk space is prohibitively expensive, or that 20MB of download is incredibly slow on the dial-up internet of the complainers.
Well said !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember having downloaded the 6-man syzygy tablebases using a dial-up connection. It took a week or so...
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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Vinvin » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:38 am

Gabor Szots wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am
Vinvin wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:08 pm
Alayan wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:12 pm
It seems 20MB of disk space is prohibitively expensive, or that 20MB of download is incredibly slow on the dial-up internet of the complainers.
Well said !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember having downloaded the 6-man syzygy tablebases using a dial-up connection. It took a week or so...
Are you sure it was 6-man ?
I made a quick math, at 7 KB/sec, it would take 150 days ....

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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by phhnguyen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:53 am

Vinvin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:38 am
Gabor Szots wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am
Vinvin wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:08 pm
Alayan wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:12 pm
It seems 20MB of disk space is prohibitively expensive, or that 20MB of download is incredibly slow on the dial-up internet of the complainers.
Well said !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember having downloaded the 6-man syzygy tablebases using a dial-up connection. It took a week or so...
Are you sure it was 6-man ?
I made a quick math, at 7 KB/sec, it would take 150 days ....
Amazing he still had a dial-up service after 2013 :D
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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Gabor Szots » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:10 am

Vinvin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:38 am
Gabor Szots wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am
Vinvin wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:08 pm
Alayan wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:12 pm
It seems 20MB of disk space is prohibitively expensive, or that 20MB of download is incredibly slow on the dial-up internet of the complainers.
Well said !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember having downloaded the 6-man syzygy tablebases using a dial-up connection. It took a week or so...
Are you sure it was 6-man ?
I made a quick math, at 7 KB/sec, it would take 150 days ....
I am not sure at all but I don't remember to have downloaded anything else and I am sure I would not have downloaded 5-man syzygy when I already had 5-man Nalimov and Gaviota. Unfortunately my memory is not that reliable any more.
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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by Gabor Szots » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:14 am

phhnguyen wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:53 am
Vinvin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:38 am
Gabor Szots wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am
Vinvin wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:08 pm
Alayan wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:12 pm
It seems 20MB of disk space is prohibitively expensive, or that 20MB of download is incredibly slow on the dial-up internet of the complainers.
Well said !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember having downloaded the 6-man syzygy tablebases using a dial-up connection. It took a week or so...
Are you sure it was 6-man ?
I made a quick math, at 7 KB/sec, it would take 150 days ....
Amazing he still had a dial-up service after 2013 :D
And even after. We have had fibre optic in the street for only a couple of years.
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Re: SF-NN embedded

Post by phhnguyen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:36 am

Gabor Szots wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:14 am
phhnguyen wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:53 am
Vinvin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:38 am
Gabor Szots wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 am
Vinvin wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:08 pm
Alayan wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:12 pm
It seems 20MB of disk space is prohibitively expensive, or that 20MB of download is incredibly slow on the dial-up internet of the complainers.
Well said !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember having downloaded the 6-man syzygy tablebases using a dial-up connection. It took a week or so...
Are you sure it was 6-man ?
I made a quick math, at 7 KB/sec, it would take 150 days ....
Amazing he still had a dial-up service after 2013 :D
And even after. We have had fibre optic in the street for only a couple of years.
How come? You have fiber optic much sooner than me (I have optic cable to my house only this year) but cable/ADSL services (not a dial-up) about 10-12 years. Download speed of ADSL is not that bad.
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