Apple New Mac Mini

[MikeB]

With Apple's own M1 chip, the new Mac Mini out performs the 2010 12 Core Mac Pro and its approx cost of NPS/$ of 25000nps*/$ ( total cost is $699) is roughly on par with any RPI4 on nps/$ basis. This is probably the best value for the dollar from Apple in a long long time.

*This is my estimate based on current SF bench with NNUE enabled - ymmv.

[Geonerd]

You've seen chess benchmarks? Please share the link.

Overall, performance per watt seems very competitive with AMD and Intel designs.

[smatovic]

Interesting SoC design, 4 high-performance cores with each 4x 128 bit SIMD units (ARM NEO based) for boosting things like NNs, a lot of beef for an mobile processor, my Core2 T9300 laptop CPU has only 1x 128 bit SSE4 unit per core....remains open how Apple intends to scale this SoC up on Mac Pro models...

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/ap ... eep-dive/2

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Srdja

[AlexChess]

With Apple's own M1 chip, the new Mac Mini out performs the 2010 12 Core Mac Pro and its approx cost of NPS/$ of 25000nps*/$ ( total cost is $699) is roughly on par with any RPI4 on nps/$ basis. This is probably the best value for the dollar from Apple in a long long time.

*This is my estimate based on current SF bench with NNUE enabled - ymmv.

I confirm!! Mac mini M1 it's incredibly fast. This is the benchmark using ONLY 4 Core of 8... And it has also a 16-core Network Engine.
Apple Silicon ARM processors M1, M2, M3... could become the first choice for chess players...
It's the reason of my search of all top macOS chess engines (reading all your posts here since beginning )

KN/MOVE. NPS. DEPTH/M TIME/M MOVES
1. SugaR AI ICCF 1.40a 14867K 3439099 21.4 4.3 38.5 166.4
2. Stockfish 12 21333K 6007701 34.1 3.6 84.3 299.5
3. Ethereal 12.77 (POPCNT) 35379K 8789749 27.2 4.0 47.5 191.2
4. Texel 1.08a13 39356K 8822433 22.1 4.5 39.2 175.1
5. Marvin 5.0.0 15323K 3787483 19.5 4.0 56.5 228.6
6. Senpai 2.0 1524K 354558 15.9 4.3 45.5 195.6
7. ShashChess Pro 2.0 64 POPCNT 32965K 9326038 29.8 3.5 93.7 331.1
8. Vajolet2 2.6.1 27508K 7010123 26.6 3.9 38.0 149.13

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[Werewolf]

With Apple's own M1 chip, the new Mac Mini out performs the 2010 12 Core Mac Pro and its approx cost of NPS/$ of 25000nps*/$ ( total cost is $699) is roughly on par with any RPI4 on nps/$ basis. This is probably the best value for the dollar from Apple in a long long time.

*This is my estimate based on current SF bench with NNUE enabled - ymmv.

Were those NPS achieve on 4 cores or all 8 cores (including the 4 high efficiency cores) ?

Also, do you know what the 2013 12 core Mac Pro gets? I'm not sure what processor is in the 2010 Mac Pro, but the 2013 dustbin is definitely a 12 core Ivy Bridge.