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M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?
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Re: M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?
exactly, now you get it. it's about M1 for chess whether or not I'll use my M1 for chess is none of your business. [Moderation] name-calling removed.Ckappe wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:17 pmThat sums it up, I suppose. The thread is "M1 Apple Silicon for chess".
I have no personal grudge against any HW. I just think it is borderline fanboyism to compare HW and then don't optimize benches based on the HW used on more than one end. Of course, HT should be used on CPUs using it, everything else is limiting one CPU and optimizing for the other.
benches for each CPUs
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As far as I got it the M1 has 4 vector 128b NEON pipelines per Firestorm core:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/ap ... eep-dive/2
can someone clarify how these are used for NNUE? Does SF utilize only one 128b pipeline, or can they be coupled to 512b?
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/ap ... eep-dive/2
can someone clarify how these are used for NNUE? Does SF utilize only one 128b pipeline, or can they be coupled to 512b?
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According to SF and Cfish sources the used NEON SIMD width is 128 bit:smatovic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:28 am As far as I got it the M1 has 4 vector 128b NEON pipelines per Firestorm core:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/ap ... eep-dive/2
can someone clarify how these are used for NNUE? Does SF utilize only one 128b pipeline, or can they be coupled to 512b?
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https://github.com/syzygy1/Cfish/blob/m ... nue.c#L161
ARM introduced SVE2 SIMD units with up to 2048 bits for ARMv9 architecture, maybe future Apple M2 silicon will switch to broader bit width...
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Three new engines: berserk, fairy-stockfish, loki
Two updates: cfish and stockfish
https://acepoint.de/even-more-new-engines-and-updates/
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Two updates: cfish and stockfish
https://acepoint.de/even-more-new-engines-and-updates/
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Thank you Acepoint. I absolutely don't know berserk, fairy-Stockfish and Loki, and very curious
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Strong Fire 8.1 by Norman Schmidt NOT Stockfish derivate to compile for Apple Silicon M1
https://github.com/FireFather/fire
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https://github.com/FireFather/fire
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More updates for the m1, Igel-3.0.0, mayhem-3.9 and the Honey family 13.1: https://acepoint.de/honey-igel-and-mayhem/
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Thank you my chess friend! M1 Is a perfect chess machine (too) thank to you!acepoint_de wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:18 am More updates for the m1, Igel-3.0.0, mayhem-3.9 and the Honey family 13.1: https://acepoint.de/honey-igel-and-mayhem/
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Hi!acepoint_de wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:18 am More updates for the m1, Igel-3.0.0, mayhem-3.9 and the Honey family 13.1: https://acepoint.de/honey-igel-and-mayhem/
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Updated MikeB engines don't work on my Mac mini M1. I've also tried to make them executables with chmod 700.
Igel 3.0.0 and Mayhem 3.90 are OK
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