M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?

[George Sobala]

Why not by a computer to run chess instead of a proprietary poser toy?

Perhaps we could have a new benchmark: how many giganodes of analysis can your device do on one battery charge? No power cord allowed.

[Milos]

Why not by a computer to run chess instead of a proprietary poser toy?

Perhaps we could have a new benchmark: how many giganodes of analysis can your device do on one battery charge? No power cord allowed.

Yeah lets compare it to my server and its 3kWh UPS .

[George Sobala]

Why not by a computer to run chess instead of a proprietary poser toy?

Perhaps we could have a new benchmark: how many giganodes of analysis can your device do on one battery charge? No power cord allowed.

Yeah lets compare it to my server and its 3kWh UPS .

... on a plane.

[Milos]

Why not by a computer to run chess instead of a proprietary poser toy?

Perhaps we could have a new benchmark: how many giganodes of analysis can your device do on one battery charge? No power cord allowed.

Yeah lets compare it to my server and its 3kWh UPS .

... on a plane.

You run chess analysis for 10 hours on your laptop on a plane???

[towforce]

You run chess analysis for 10 hours on your laptop on a plane???

Is that not what one does on a long flight?

[George Sobala]

You run chess analysis for 10 hours on your laptop on a plane???

Is that not what one does on a long flight?

Indeed. I think we will have to strip Milos of all his chess honours.

[AlexChess]

The 32 bit version of Chessbase 15 works fine within Arm64 Windows 10 under Parallels.

also 64 bit apps work now

*Sigh*

Again a few more steps up in my list...does it work flawlessly?



Did you check it for your own? But you still need the emulator, don't you? That's a bit too much for my taste, an application needing an emulator in Win needing parallels on a MacOS.

YESS! Standard compilation using Homebrew. I have only changed a parameter on BacksiaGUI configuration (NNUE= BLAS) Lc0 *M1* is not fast, but already quite strong!

We can share them:
https://github.com/bmdanielsson/marvin- ... tag/v5.0.0 NNUE!!
http://www.sdchess.ru/engines/texel108a13all.zip
http://www.sdchess.ru/engines/vajolet2_2_62.zip
http://www.sdchess.ru/engines/Ethereal_12_77_mac.zip
http://www.sdchess.ru/engines/RubiChess ... mac_64.zip
http://www.sdchess.ru/engines/senpai_2_0mac.zip

I'd like to test Cfish (latest source, I have only Cfish 8) chessX and Crystal 3.1


I'm trying to learn how to compile them for myself. If you are able to compile for mac, here 2 other interesting engines for Mac:
https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel


KN/MOVE. NPS. DEPTH/M TIME/M MOVES
1. SugaR AI ICCF 1.40a 14867K 3439099 21.4 4.3 38.5 166.4
2. Stockfish 12 21333K 6007701 34.1 3.6 84.3 299.5
3. Ethereal 12.77 (POPCNT) 35379K 8789749 27.2 4.0 47.5 191.2
4. Texel 1.08a13 39356K 8822433 22.1 4.5 39.2 175.1
5. Marvin 5.0.0 15323K 3787483 19.5 4.0 56.5 228.6
6. Senpai 2.0 1524K 354558 15.9 4.3 45.5 195.6
7. ShashChess Pro 2.0 64 POPCNT 32965K 9326038 29.8 3.5 93.7 331.1
8. Vajolet2 2.6.1 27508K 7010123 26.6 3.9 38.0 149.13
9. Lc0 v0.26.3+git.dirty 14K 3690 7.6 3.9 67.0

Meanwhile I'm collecting a bunch of chess software compiling native m1 binaries. Already working are

chessx
cute chess + cli
cfish (latest sources)
crystal 3.1
stockfish12 (native also available via homebrew)
stockfish (current sources)
sugar-AI-ICCF-140a

lc0-026.3 works with openCL but I wasn't able to install the tensorflow stuff correctly yet. Will last a while I guess

Any more wishes, Apple fangirls and -boys ? I will upload some stuff tomorrow or so.

Ciao

acepoint

[Ckappe]

Why not by a computer to run chess instead of a proprietary poser toy?

Perhaps we could have a new benchmark: how many giganodes of analysis can your device do on one battery charge? No power cord allowed.

Sound like an interesting test...(something Mac posers usally are not fond of.. They only want to do 20 seconds apple to oranges benches with geekbench in my experience Post your number and I will do test under same condition on my new AMD laptop, , Shall we use LC0 as a bench? I am extremely confident that my laptop will do more positions than an M1 before power runs out... given my large battery and much faster machine..

But how long are you really away from a powerplug, when doing long-time analysis to be honest...

[George Sobala]

Why not by a computer to run chess instead of a proprietary poser toy?

Perhaps we could have a new benchmark: how many giganodes of analysis can your device do on one battery charge? No power cord allowed.

Sound like an interesting test...(something Mac posers usally are not fond of.. They only want to do 20 seconds apple to oranges benches with geekbench in my experience Post your number and I will do test under same condition on my new AMD laptop, , Shall we use LC0 as a bench? I am extremely confident that my laptop will do more positions than an M1 before power runs out... given my large battery and much faster machine..

But how long are you really away from a powerplug, when doing long-time analysis to be honest...

I choose stockfish as the engine as it is the strongest. (Yeah and of course I have CPU power rather than GPU). Happy to try it out in the next couple of days.

Suggest go infinite from the start position with default hash and however many threads you want.

[jshriver]

You run chess analysis for 10 hours on your laptop on a plane???

What else is there to do when flying to Japan or Australia lol