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To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by Father » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:36 pm

November 30TH, 2020

Dear IA. :idea:

I have been asked if it,s possible to beat the new generation of artificial inteligence computers.

There are even those who have gone further and wonder if it is possible for me o get a draw playing computers in man versus chess machines.

Other people wants the Father to return to the battlefield. That the father uses all his strength to exorcise artificial intelligence.

I want to tell you that in every fight it,s possible to give the opponent a cache and give up without seeing the end.

The first step and the last step of a great line mean the same thing, for the first and last ones comes and goes to another dimension.

I,ve never helped myself with machines to beat the machines. In modern chess, there,s always the option of looking for the answer in the study of other machines.

Chess still represents a resolutionless theorem. I am separetes only for a second on my march towars a world where chess is obsolete.

I,ll always have the option of playing against computers on my desk and not publishing the games.

And I,ll continue to listen to the human beings who run the chess elites that computers are already invencibles.
I,d lie to receive a very fast computer as a gift on which the 10 best chess programs in the world are installed: Then I would play
1000 games and give them the answer withhout publication.

Becouse I,d rather become an urban legend; Instead of being rejected by the elites to participate in this type of demonstration.

I,ve already turned 60 years old, and I thanks God for my life.

I thanks all the people who gave me the opportimity to play against their computers from the depths of my heart.

I also thanks who made chess programs and computers equipment.

Despite my age, I still feel a lot strenght in my sould.

And I feel freer than when I was young.

Sincerely,


Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father & Grand-Father playchess.com user


( Bis. )CF EXT 291120 x64 BMI2 N (4 threads): 28.2 plies; 2.650kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU @ 2.30GHz 2300MHz, (2 cores, 4 threads)


|Cfish 291120 64 POPCNT (8 threads): 28.3 plies; 5.433kN/s AMD FX(tm)-8300 Eight-Core Processor 3322MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads )





I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Post by Father » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:13 pm

IA: Dear Father. Thanks for the game.
Father: You are welcome.


I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by supersharp77 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:07 am

Father wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:36 pm
November 30TH, 2020

Dear IA. :idea:

I have been asked if it,s possible to beat the new generation of artificial inteligence computers.

There are even those who have gone further and wonder if it is possible for me o get a draw playing computers in man versus chess machines.

Other people wants the Father to return to the battlefield. That the father uses all his strength to exorcise artificial intelligence.

I want to tell you that in every fight it,s possible to give the opponent a cache and give up without seeing the end.

The first step and the last step of a great line mean the same thing, for the first and last ones comes and goes to another dimension.

I,ve never helped myself with machines to beat the machines. In modern chess, there,s always the option of looking for the answer in the study of other machines.

Chess still represents a resolutionless theorem. I am separetes only for a second on my march towars a world where chess is obsolete.

I,ll always have the option of playing against computers on my desk and not publishing the games.

And I,ll continue to listen to the human beings who run the chess elites that computers are already invencibles.
I,d lie to receive a very fast computer as a gift on which the 10 best chess programs in the world are installed: Then I would play
1000 games and give them the answer withhout publication.

Becouse I,d rather become an urban legend; Instead of being rejected by the elites to participate in this type of demonstration.

I,ve already turned 60 years old, and I thanks God for my life.

I thanks all the people who gave me the opportimity to play against their computers from the depths of my heart.

I also thanks who made chess programs and computers equipment.

Despite my age, I still feel a lot strenght in my sould.

And I feel freer than when I was young.

Sincerely,


Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father & Grand-Father playchess.com user
Yes Father I am 100% in agreement with you....these machines are not infallible and can indeed be defeated...although it does take a high level of play to get the job done! Father R in the one game why the resignation after white played g4?
Thx AR :) :wink:

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by Father » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:12 pm

Hello Supersharo77

Thank you for your question.

The explanation why I resign after the G4 move it is becouse there are no long-term hopes

Likewise, after the sacrifice of my H2 bishop, I may have resigned and made the game seem a little spectacular and inconsistent

A warrior before he dies can break the opponent's nose

Aesthetics and art in chess are subrealist

Like human versus human games subsequently analysed under the magnifying glass and power of chess computers


Each chess player is worthy and has the dignity of his or her own power and he or she are good at his or her own level of play; It is enough for humans to stretch their hands and play against a chess computer at the front of the desk, a chess player much better than the human world, and just ... play And play chess ...

Best regards,


Pablo
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by supersharp77 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:24 am

Father wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:12 pm
Hello Supersharo77

Thank you for your question.

The explanation why I resign after the G4 move it is becouse there are no long-term hopes

Likewise, after the sacrifice of my H2 bishop, I may have resigned and made the game seem a little spectacular and inconsistent

A warrior before he dies can break the opponent's nose

Aesthetics and art in chess are subrealist

Like human versus human games subsequently analysed under the magnifying glass and power of chess computers


Each chess player is worthy and has the dignity of his or her own power and he or she are good at his or her own level of play; It is enough for humans to stretch their hands and play against a chess computer at the front of the desk, a chess player much better than the human world, and just ... play And play chess ...

Best regards,


Pablo
Well Lets just see.....shall we?

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No my friend lots of play here...as long as you defend the e4 pawn by getting in f5
somehow..you are OK.. you just can't let the white King sneak into the kingside.... :) :wink:

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by Uri » Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:48 pm

Contrary to what some may say I think that humans are still much better than computers.

When it comes to chess knowledge and really understanding the game (understanding the whole picture) and seeing and memorizing far ahead into the game humans are still much better than computers.

It could take hundreds or even a 1000 years from now when computers will be able to beat Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov, Vishy Anand or even Vladimir Kramnik.

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by JohnW » Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:32 am

Uri wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:48 pm
Contrary to what some may say I think that humans are still much better than computers.

When it comes to chess knowledge and really understanding the game (understanding the whole picture) and seeing and memorizing far ahead into the game humans are still much better than computers.

It could take hundreds or even a 1000 years from now when computers will be able to beat Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov, Vishy Anand or even Vladimir Kramnik.
Really? When was the last time a top player competed on even terms? Nakumura just lost to komodo dragon while given a pawn advantage.

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by dkappe » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:44 pm

JohnW wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:32 am

Really? When was the last time a top player competed on even terms? Nakumura just lost to komodo dragon while given a pawn advantage.
Two pawns.

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by Father » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:17 pm

dkappe wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:44 pm
JohnW wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:32 am

Really? When was the last time a top player competed on even terms? Nakumura just lost to komodo dragon while given a pawn advantage.
Two pawns.
The world chess elites owes an explanation to fans and the world to or about why they have canceled public matches against machines without giving any kind of advantage: perhaps they are very afraid to preserve vanity and good name.

I never accept being given material advantage of time is a matter of honour.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: To: IA from: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo (Father and Grand-Father playchess.com) November 30 TH 2020.

Post by Father » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:34 pm

dkappe wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:44 pm
JohnW wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:32 am

Really? When was the last time a top player competed on even terms? Nakumura just lost to komodo dragon while given a pawn advantage.
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I have a question... which results has a match of 20 games at 3 + 0 minute tule control, between each of the top 20 players in the world against Stockfish on an average normal computer. Is it posible to watch these games ?
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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