Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

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Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Chessqueen » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:03 am

We will see what happen in the next two games Stockfish NNUE Vs Komodo Dragon ===> https://tcec-chess.com/live.html
Also Ethereal is doing Great against Stockfisk NNUE https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=p&game=3&season=20

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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by dkappe » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:08 am

Chessqueen wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:03 am
We will see what happen in the next two games Stockfish NNUE Vs Komodo Dragon ===> https://tcec-chess.com/live.html
Also Ethereal is doing Great against Stockfisk NNUE https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=p&game=3&season=20
These are again imbalanced openings (+1.0). Engines need to hold serve with white and try to draw with black.

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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by mehmet123 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:15 am

dkappe wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:08 am
Chessqueen wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:03 am
We will see what happen in the next two games Stockfish NNUE Vs Komodo Dragon ===> https://tcec-chess.com/live.html
Also Ethereal is doing Great against Stockfisk NNUE https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=p&game=3&season=20
These are again imbalanced openings (+1.0). Engines need to hold serve with white and try to draw with black.
Is Dragon plays with default net or a new net. If it's playing with a new net, how is the power difference between nets?

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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Dann Corbit » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:28 am

It's a little early to draw conclusions, but interesting as always
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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Jouni » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:10 am

2 loss from 4 games. Disappointing.
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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Madeleine Birchfield » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:34 am

Chessqueen wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:03 am
We will see what happen in the next two games Stockfish NNUE Vs Komodo Dragon ===> https://tcec-chess.com/live.html
Also Ethereal is doing Great against Stockfisk NNUE https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=p&game=3&season=20
The openings in Division Premier are too biased towards white; it is very likely that Komodo has won the games because black made a mistake or a blunder in the opening book line. Komodo as black has lost all of its games so far.

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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Jouni » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:08 pm

Of course early days. Next match between unbeaten engines Stoofvlees - SF!
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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Chessqueen » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:37 pm

Jouni wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:10 am
2 loss from 4 games. Disappointing.
If all the programs use their own Opening Books Komodo would have NOT lost those two games with Black since they are too close in ratings specially Stoofvless, LCZero, Stockfish NNUE, and Komodo. It would be more interesting for all programmers to provide their own Opening Books and let them fight it out. Or to eliminate Opening Books and instead only chose the first move like 1.c3, Saragossa 1.d3, Mieses 1.e3, Van't or 1. h3 Clemenz Opening; creating unorthodox chess Openings with NOT much advantage for White since White does NOT immediately take control of the center

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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by dkappe » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:29 pm

Madeleine Birchfield wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:34 am
Chessqueen wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:03 am
We will see what happen in the next two games Stockfish NNUE Vs Komodo Dragon ===> https://tcec-chess.com/live.html
Also Ethereal is doing Great against Stockfisk NNUE https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=p&game=3&season=20
The openings in Division Premier are too biased towards white; it is very likely that Komodo has won the games because black made a mistake or a blunder in the opening book line. Komodo as black has lost all of its games so far.
You need to focus on each engine’s performance as black (assuming they hold serve as white). So far Stockfish has been the class of the field, with a win and several draws as black.

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Re: Komodo Dragon is Kicking Ass in TCEC

Post by Madeleine Birchfield » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:32 pm

Chessqueen wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:37 pm
Jouni wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:10 am
2 loss from 4 games. Disappointing.
If all the programs use their own Opening Books Komodo would have NOT lost those two games with Black since they are too close in ratings specially Stoofvless, LCZero, Stockfish NNUE, and Komodo. It would be more interesting for all programmers to provide their own Opening Books and let them fight it out.
That's even worse, as it becomes a competition of which opening book is better rather than which engine is better.

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