Who is keeping track of the Cell Phone engines ratings ?

[Chessqueen]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

[mwyoung]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

This will depend on the CPU of the cell phone. Some cell phone CPU's are very comparable to desktop CPU's. In my case with my cell phone S20 Ultra. Running a single core for the engine on both desktop and phone. The gap will be much much less then 200 Elo or even 100 Elo.

I have seen with all cores running on my smart phone 8 cores. I am faster then some quad core desktop CPU's

[mclane]

We have a benchmark for mobile phones.

I wonder if SD 888 is really faster then 865.

I have my doubts.

Innovative CPU progress comes in the Moment from Kirin, Mediatek and exynos and apple.

Snapdragon / Qualcomm seems to be in a depression.

[jmartus]

With latest stockfish on 865 plus I get 2.3 million nps on 8 cores starting position

[mwyoung]

With latest stockfish on 865 plus I get 2.3 million nps on 8 cores starting position

On my S20 Ultra. With the latest Droidfish update running SF. After 1 minute my NPS were 2812 KN/s

[MMarco]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

This is the most recent I could find on Stockfish discord.

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Round-robin on Android: 120s + 2s
Hardware: Cortex A53 @ 2.0 Ghz
Openings: Vesely_total.pgn (250 pos.)
Options: threads=1, hash=32
Stockfish 12 = nn-82215d0fd0df.nnue
Stockfish 231020 = nn-eba324f53044.nnue
CFish 031020 = nn-baeb9ef2d183.nnue
Cfish 191020 = nn-eba324f53044.nnue
TBs and adj.: 5-men syzygy, draw 5 moves 5cp after move 30, resign 5 moves 600 cp
Comments: CFish firmly on top in Android.
Games and head-to-head statistics: https://gofile.io/d/8y5j5V
# PLAYER            :  RATING  ERROR  PLAYED  (%)   CFS   W     D    L   D(%)
1 CFish 191020      :    99.8    8.4   2000  61.73   93  615  1239  146  61.95
2 CFish 031020      :    90.8    7.4   2000  60.25  100  585  1240  175  62.00
3 Stockfish 231020  :    39.1    8.3   2000  51.60  100  409  1246  345  62.30
4 Stockfish 12      :     0.0    7.9   2000  45.00  100  315  1170  515  58.50
5 Stockfish 11      :   -83.6    8.8   2000  31.43  ---  168   921  911  46.05

White advantage = 50.18 +/- 3.11
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 66.71 % +/- 0.75

Engine            Depth   MIDG   EARLY    ENDG    LATE
Stockfish 12      20.11  18.40 | 18.60 | 20.07 | 28.13
Stockfish 231020  20.32  18.65 | 18.74 | 19.74 | 28.37
CFish 031020      21.81  19.91 | 20.27 | 21.16 | 30.78
Stockfish 11      21.82  20.39 | 21.08 | 21.46 | 29.07
CFish 191020      21.87  19.95 | 20.13 | 21.15 | 30.78

[MikeB]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

Most certainly, most high end phones will see 800 to 1000k/nps with SF NNUE based engine, that would be around 30 to 40% of a recent single core CPU. Clearly less than 200 Elo difference.

[Pi4Chess]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

Most certainly, most high end phones will see 800 to 1000k/nps with SF NNUE based engine, that would be around 30 to 40% of a recent single core CPU. Clearly less than 200 Elo difference.

Is your black diamond Harmon version out ?

[Milos]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

Most certainly, most high end phones will see 800 to 1000k/nps with SF NNUE based engine, that would be around 30 to 40% of a recent single core CPU. Clearly less than 200 Elo difference.

I have a 180$ Chinese phone Xiaomi Redme Note 8 Pro with a mediocre CPU for current standards and I get 1565knps from a starting position with latest SF NNUE Droidfish. I'd expect most of high-end phones would actually be well over 2Mnps.

[MikeB]

Is there any place that Cell Phone latest Engines rating is kept Updated, and how far are they from computer Engines ratings, Are they within 200 ratings points from Single chip or one core computer

Most certainly, most high end phones will see 800 to 1000k/nps with SF NNUE based engine, that would be around 30 to 40% of a recent single core CPU. Clearly less than 200 Elo difference.

I have a 180$ Chinese phone Xiaomi Redme Note 8 Pro with a mediocre CPU for current standards and I get 1565knps from a starting position with latest SF NNUE Droidfish. I'd expect most of high-end phones would actually be well over 2Mnps.

That would surprise me — are you using one thread/core as indicated? Please double check your settings. Using one thread with NNUE enabled.