Some selected data on FastGM-10 Top10 games (eval != result)

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Some selected data on FastGM-10 Top10 games (eval != result)

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Edit: This was first buried in a topic where it should not really belong
I let the (now) double post remove from the 'Nemorino 6.00 bug?' thread

The pgn files used are from here (a pity that only the top10 games are available):
http://www.fastgm.de/10min.html
http://www.fastgm.de/schach/Top10-10min.7z

Below some filtering on extreme examples with one graph for the most upset in the filtering.

filtered by WMaxEval >=5 and no win (seen from W side)

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#       White           Black                           Res        WMaxM   WMaxE   WMinM   WMinE   BMaxM   BMaxE   BMinM   BMinE
12650   Xiphos 0.6      SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    83      318.75  13      -0.17   14      0.20    43      -0.53
12706   Xiphos 0.6      SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    73      295.79  143     0.00    41      0.00    26      -0.93
12846   Xiphos 0.6      SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    57      286.51  58      0.00    53      0.00    24      -1.12
11430   Nemorino 6.00   SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    52      104.89  16      0.00    16      0.00    20      -0.47
11520   Nemorino 6.00   SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    57      104.89  100     0.00    13      0.11    27      -0.75
88      Houdini 6       Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    95      80.16   134     0.00    13      0.00    97      -11.71
6238    Houdini 6       Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    69      19.42   9       -0.47   12      0.55    39      -0.19
2453    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    72      13.37   27      -0.44   30      0.46    40      -0.21
2649    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    65      13.16   42      0.00    9       0.00    64      -3.59
4125    Ethereal 12.75  Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    46      11.64   155     0.01    161     0.00    39      -3.20
4862    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    58      11.10   84      0.00    56      0.00    41      -2.80
6860    Ethereal 12.75  Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    72      10.62   53      0.01    45      0.00    70      -1.81
12661   SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     Xiphos 0.6      1/2-1/2    54      10.60   55      0.00    53      0.00    52      -2.46
4784    Ethereal 12.75  Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    71      10.00   12      -0.05   36      0.00    44      -0.82
12724   Xiphos 0.6      SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    57      9.98    154     0.00    56      0.00    36      -1.06
4123    Ethereal 12.75  Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    55      9.07    261     0.01    31      -0.03   55      -2.70
11822   Ethereal 12.75  SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    49      8.55    240     0.01    38      0.00    33      -0.88
11950   Ethereal 12.75  SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    54      8.53    325     0.01    12      0.00    45      -4.53
10787   Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      Houdini 6       1/2-1/2    69      8.44    115     0.00    17      0.18    37      -0.41
11786   Ethereal 12.75  SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    61      8.30    10      -0.19   9       0.16    53      -2.04
11992   Ethereal 12.75  SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    56      8.26    9       -0.31   14      0.20    26      -0.64
11892   Ethereal 12.75  SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    93      8.20    56      0.01    74      0.06    17      -0.60
6922    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    62      7.92    78      0.00    66      0.00    62      -3.62
4999    Nemorino 6.00   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE                 1/2-1/2    62      7.74    120     0.00    13      0.46    55      -6.15
9300    Ethereal 12.75  Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      1/2-1/2    193     7.66    26      0.01    34      0.03    188     -4.60
7368    Stockfish 12    Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    76      7.57    124     0.00    118     0.00    69      -2.00
12504   Stockfish 12    SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    67      7.28    115     0.00    113     0.00    52      -3.04
12296   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    48      7.02    14      0.00    14      0.52    25      -0.06
2747    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    78      6.84    83      0.00    9       0.04    44      -0.54
12270   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    54      6.84    57      0.00    62      0.00    48      -2.31
11784   Ethereal 12.75  SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    89      6.80    10      -0.26   19      0.72    34      -0.18
12662   Xiphos 0.6      SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    76      6.77    88      0.00    53      0.00    49      -1.76
11532   Nemorino 6.00   SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    55      6.57    62      0.00    81      1.56    15      -0.72
6129    Nemorino 6.00   Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    117     6.38    194     0.00    197     -0.02   126     -2.03
6281    Nemorino 6.00   Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    58      6.18    105     0.00    18      0.13    26      -0.39
5014    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    75      6.02    10      -0.06   73      0.00    25      -0.75
5816    Fire 7.1        Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    142     5.81    36      0.00    43      0.14    25      -0.76
3353    Ethereal 12.75  Stockfish 12                    1/2-1/2    104     5.80    33      -0.25   19      0.14    109     -0.41
6732    Ethereal 12.75  Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    58      5.80    99      0.01    98      0.00    40      -1.54
5926    Fire 7.1        Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    64      5.75    11      0.04    56      0.00    22      -1.09
12728   Xiphos 0.6      SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    62      5.69    63      0.00    15      0.00    29      -1.96
12114   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     1/2-1/2    66      5.66    101     0.00    101     0.00    54      -3.43
4253    Ethereal 12.75  Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    60      5.63    122     0.01    18      0.04    65      -15.65
3015    Ethereal 12.75  Igel 2.8.0 NNUE                 1/2-1/2    112     5.59    9       -0.98   16      1.14    139     -3.65
783     Xiphos 0.6      Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    52      5.55    9       0.00    14      0.12    34      -0.41
6251    Nemorino 6.00   Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    66      5.51    46      -1.25   43      0.73    63      -3.16
3238    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Ethereal 12.75                  1/2-1/2    86      5.46    14      -0.74   9       1.01    73      -5.97
3925    Ethereal 12.75  Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    58      5.44    30      -0.01   32      1.02    57      -1.46
6826    Ethereal 12.75  Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    92      5.44    117     0.01    58      0.00    13      -0.82
3485    Ethereal 12.75  Stockfish 12                    1/2-1/2    102     5.36    30      -0.31   24      0.37    10      -0.28
377     Xiphos 0.6      Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    66      5.35    106     0.00    59      -0.06   46      -1.09
3185    Ethereal 12.75  Igel 2.8.0 NNUE                 1/2-1/2    88      5.35    21      -0.01   18      0.00    74      -3.64
3061    Ethereal 12.75  Igel 2.8.0 NNUE                 1/2-1/2    49      5.31    38      -0.01   34      0.74    47      -2.66
3037    Ethereal 12.75  Igel 2.8.0 NNUE                 1/2-1/2    128     5.30    148     -0.01   71      0.00    60      -2.63
1663    Stockfish 12    Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    58      5.29    12      -0.35   30      0.45    33      -0.01
6612    Ethereal 12.75  Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    89      5.29    111     0.01    108     0.00    53      -1.49
5952    Fire 7.1        Nemorino 6.00                   1/2-1/2    114     5.27    126     0.00    42      0.00    70      -1.47
3232    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Ethereal 12.75                  1/2-1/2    43      5.25    44      0.00    40      0.01    21      -0.92
6894    Ethereal 12.75  Komodo 14.1                     1/2-1/2    102     5.20    11      -0.01   9       0.03    77      -0.65
9036    Ethereal 12.75  Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      1/2-1/2    85      5.19    108     -0.01   22      0.00    28      -1.15
4447    Ethereal 12.75  Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    64      5.12    107     0.01    79      0.00    59      -2.21
2761    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Houdini 6                       1/2-1/2    70      5.07    71      0.00    70      0.00    33      -0.87
3939    Ethereal 12.75  Fire 7.1                        1/2-1/2    104     5.05    12      -0.01   11      0.00    36      -0.43
filtered by WMaxEval >=2 and even lost (seen from W side)

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#       White           Black                           Res        WMaxM   WMaxE   WMinM   WMinE   BMaxM   BMaxE   BMinM   BMinE
12144   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        34      3.64    -       -       -       -       32      -2.19
9496    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      0-1        13      3.44    -       -       -       -       10      -0.96
4591    Nemorino 6.00   Ethereal 12.75                  0-1        50      3.35    -       -       -       -       61      -2.44
7022    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Komodo 14.1                     0-1        28      3.34    -       -       -       -       30      -1.20
2447    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Fire 7.1                        0-1        49      3.20    -       -       -       -       47      -0.55
6394    Nemorino 6.00   Komodo 14.1                     0-1        54      2.98    -       -       -       -       50      -1.25
12016   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        28      2.97    -       -       -       -       9       0.36
5965    Nemorino 6.00   Fire 7.1                        0-1        37      2.95    -       -       -       -       17      -0.45
2881    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Houdini 6                       0-1        50      2.60    -       -       -       -       41      -0.49
2569    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Fire 7.1                        0-1        28      2.58    -       -       -       -       22      -0.40
3098    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Ethereal 12.75                  0-1        37      2.56    -       -       -       -       26      -1.44
9340    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      0-1        25      2.50    -       -       -       -       18      -0.13
8926    Nemorino 6.00   Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      0-1        19      2.47    -       -       -       -       11      -0.85
2869    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Houdini 6                       0-1        27      2.45    -       -       -       -       14      -0.46
3108    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Ethereal 12.75                  0-1        34      2.42    -       -       -       -       29      -1.83
6071    Nemorino 6.00   Houdini 6                       0-1        35      2.37    -       -       -       -       36      -1.04
12210   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        36      2.32    -       -       -       -       36      -0.85
12036   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        28      2.28    -       -       -       -       9       -0.84
12096   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        17      2.28    -       -       -       -       18      -1.27
6416    Nemorino 6.00   Komodo 14.1                     0-1        40      2.13    -       -       -       -       37      -0.52
10797   Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      Houdini 6       0-1        28      2.12    -       -       -       -       28      -0.88
3195    Ethereal 12.75  Igel 2.8.0 NNUE                 0-1        35      2.09    -       -       -       -       35      -2.42
6986    Igel 2.8.0 NNUE Komodo 14.1                     0-1        25      2.08    -       -       -       -       25      -0.42
6538    Nemorino 6.00   Komodo 14.1                     0-1        44      2.05    -       -       -       -       33      -0.40
6159    Nemorino 6.00   Houdini 6                       0-1        58      2.03    -       -       -       -       59      -0.83
6161    Nemorino 6.00   Houdini 6                       0-1        27      2.03    -       -       -       -       23      -0.88
12088   Igel 2.8.0 NNUE SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        37      2.02    -       -       -       -       33      -0.68
12340   Stockfish 12    SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.4     0-1        22      2.01    -       -       -       -       18      -0.40
8553    Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0      Komodo 14.1     0-1        31      2.00    -       -       -       -       21      -0.55
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